yup, I did not have access to it other than the couple times I saw it on the tube. I was forced to get real player, which I despise, but I came the the same conclusion.
I will send a copy of the tile diagram to Budge and he can post it to see. I marked the place where I believe the object hit. It was edge, or actually corner first into the wing.
Will post it as soon as I get it, WS.