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Gun Industry Ex-Official Describes Bond of Silence
The New York Times ^ | 2/4/2003 | Fox Butterfield

Posted on 02/04/2003 7:18:20 AM PST by choosetheright

A former senior firearms industry executive said in an affidavit filed in court in San Diego yesterday that gun manufacturers had long known that some of their dealers corruptly sold guns to criminals but pressured one another into remaining silent for fear of legal liability. It is the first time a senior official in the gun industry has broken ranks to challenge practices in the business.

The affidavit, by Robert A. Ricker, a former chief lobbyist and executive director of the American Shooting Sports Council, then the main gun industry trade organization, was filed in California Superior Court in support of claims by 12 California cities and counties suing the gun makers and their wholesalers and retail dealers.

The cities, led by Los Angeles and San Francisco, contend that the gun industry has maintained a distribution system that allows many guns to fall into the hands of criminals and juveniles, creating a public nuisance and violating a California law on unfair business practices.

A copy of Mr. Ricker's declaration, filed under seal, was made available to The New York Times.

Mr. Ricker, a moderate in an industry dominated by hard-liners, lost his post as executive director of the American Shooting Sports Council in 1999 after attending a White House meeting with President Bill Clinton to discuss preventing more school shootings like the one at Columbine High School in Colorado.

The meeting was opposed by the National Rifle Association, and Mr. Ricker said in his affidavit that pressure from the rifle association led the gun industry to disband his organization in favor of the more conservative National Shooting Sports Foundation.

Several lawyers for the gun companies, including Lawrence G. Keane, general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, now the main gun industry trade group, said they had not yet seen Mr. Ricker's affidavit and therefore could not comment.

In their defense, the gun makers have insisted they do not know what happens after the guns leave the factory, since they are sold to wholesalers and in turn to retail dealers.

But Mr. Ricker, who has been working for more than two decades in the gun industry, including a stint as a lawyer for the N.R.A., said the gun makers had long known that "the diversion of firearms from legal channels of commerce to the black market" takes place "principally at the distributor/dealer level."

In a telephone interview from his home in suburban Washington, Mr. Ricker said he had recently served as an expert witness for the gun industry in a related lawsuit, brought by Cincinnati. He said he also still served as a consultant to some gun companies.

But Mr. Ricker said someone in the gun industry needed to speak up about bad dealers because "we've got a bunch of right-wing wackos at the N.R.A. controlling everything."

Left to their own, Mr. Ricker said, many industry executives "would be more than willing to sit down and negotiate a settlement" with the cities about weeding out unscrupulous dealers.

In his affidavit, Mr. Ricker also appeared to undercut another of the gun makers' most common defenses: that because they only sell to federally licensed dealers, they are fully obeying the law and the rest of the job of enforcing the law can be handled by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Mr. Ricker said in the affidavit that the idea that all dealers operate legally because they have a license is a "fiction." He added that "the firearms industry has long known that A.T.F. is hampered" by its shortage of personnel and loopholes in the gun laws. For example, he said, the bureau can inspect a dealer only once a year as a result of a law supported by the rifle association.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; firearms; guns; industry; nra; ricker
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1 posted on 02/04/2003 7:18:20 AM PST by choosetheright
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To: choosetheright
The meeting was opposed by the National Rifle Association, and Mr. Ricker said in his affidavit that pressure from the rifle association led the gun industry to disband his organization in favor of the more conservative National Shooting Sports Foundation.

Mr. Ricker can't POSSIBLY have an axe to grind here ... nah...

2 posted on 02/04/2003 7:21:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: *bang_list
Yet another article that abuses the word "loophole" by claiming thing specifically spelled out in law that limit government power are "loopholes".

This article also claims the NRA is "a bunch of right-wing wackos." LOL!

3 posted on 02/04/2003 7:23:50 AM PST by coloradan
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To: *bang_list
Complete Fiction Bang!
4 posted on 02/04/2003 7:25:26 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: choosetheright
And booze is sold to minors, along with cigarettes. Prescription drugs are sold or prescribed improperly. Heck, lots of stuff is handled improperly, but the usual solution is to go after the offenders, not the manufacturers.
5 posted on 02/04/2003 7:27:37 AM PST by trebb
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To: dirtboy
Until he starts naming names and producing evidence, he is just another player on the liberal talk show circuit.
6 posted on 02/04/2003 7:28:13 AM PST by RS
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To: coloradan
I would like to see the right start talking about "closing the partial-birth abortion 'loophole'" in order to get the left to stop using the word 'loophole' in this way.
7 posted on 02/04/2003 7:30:31 AM PST by coloradan
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To: RS
"Mr. Ricker, a moderate in an industry dominated by hard-liners,"

Kinda like saying: "Cal Thomas, a moderate among an industry of left-wing extremists". Yet you will never read THAT in the lame-stream press.
8 posted on 02/04/2003 7:33:30 AM PST by outpost44
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To: dirtboy
what a dickhead- how can gun manufacturers 'police' dealers...?

If I sell computer services to people, I cant go to their location and watch what they do with it.. I have to WORK on new stuff if I want to put food on my table... sheesh...

MANUFACTURERS are NOT regulating authorities for their customers. If someone can legally buy from you then that is all you can know.

If you HEAR of some bad behavior, all you can do is report it. I am not buying this 'bond of silence' crapola- this bone head sounds like a liberal, and therefore must be a liar.
9 posted on 02/04/2003 7:35:03 AM PST by Mr. K (all your (OPTIONAL TAG LINE) are belong to us)
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To: xsrdx
I wish this was complete fiction. The ATF is limited to one inspection a year UNLESS they're investigating a criminal action, have a warrant, etc. The number of ATF inspectors has always been around 200. That means whether the number of FFLs was 200,000 or around the current 100,000, the number was the same.

You can do the math and see it's impossible for the ATF to inspect all the FFLs in one year. This is the ATF's fault plain and simple. It has nothing to do with the NRA or the firearms industry. The ATF is not doing their job.

10 posted on 02/04/2003 7:37:01 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf
The ATF is not doing their job

I don't disagree, but nobody really wants a bigger or more intrusive ATF.

The "fiction" I was referring to is the articles implication that gun manufacturers have some knowledge of, or control over what FFL dealers and distributors do with the guns they buy.

Individuals are responsible for the guns on the black market - not dealers, not gun shows, and not manufacturers.

11 posted on 02/04/2003 7:50:23 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: coloradan
I would like to see the right start talking about "closing the partial-birth abortion 'loophole'" in order to get the left to stop using the word 'loophole' in this way.

Fantastic idea BUMP.

12 posted on 02/04/2003 7:51:03 AM PST by Denver Ditdat
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To: xsrdx
I don't have a problem with the ATF doing their job inspecting FFLs. I think that would make a difference in how many firearms are diverted from legal channels into the black market.

I don't think that's a job the ATF finds real exciting. Examining millions of forms each year at dealers doesn't get the ATF the front page publicity for the congressional show and tells at budget time.

13 posted on 02/04/2003 8:12:57 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: RS
A friend of the Clintons.
14 posted on 02/04/2003 8:38:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: choosetheright
Did he just watch "Liberty Stands Still" or something? That was a central theme.

(Utterly horrid movie. Wesley Snipes covers virtually every anti-gun and evil-right-wing stereotype and conspiracy theory possible... every bit of the movie's story takes place in a single block of a city park... and they don't even have the guts to show Linda Fiorentino's nude scene!)

15 posted on 02/04/2003 8:44:48 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: choosetheright
bookmarking bump
16 posted on 02/04/2003 8:56:11 AM PST by dbwz
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To: choosetheright
I wonder what they have on him? Looks like another person has fallen "victim" to the PC crowd.

We won't prosecute you if you do this for us. Like a drug dealer getting a "get out of jail free" card for turning other people in.

17 posted on 02/04/2003 9:44:42 AM PST by Ches
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To: choosetheright
Fox Butterfield of the New York Times. 'Nuff said.
18 posted on 02/04/2003 2:38:59 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: meatloaf
Sure they are doing thier job. Trampling the Constitution.

Working to destroy the Second amendment.

What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?
19 posted on 02/04/2003 2:47:49 PM PST by Living Stone (Audemus jura nostra defendere)
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To: dirtboy
Well, it's clear that there's an axe being ground, but that won't matter much when this goes to trial this spring. Remember this, and watch the news in April and May: this is California, and the plaintifs may well prevail given our jury pool. Appeals are guaranteed if that happens, but this is an enormously dangerous lawsuit, which has the potential to have impacts all across the country.
20 posted on 02/04/2003 3:00:29 PM PST by absalom01
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