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"I believe that we are God's noble experiment." Sen. Chuck (E-cheese) Schumer
C-Span 2 | Feb. 5, 2003

Posted on 02/05/2003 2:03:03 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl

Quotes from Chuck Schumer on the floor of the Senate during the past 10 minutes (C-span 2). Working up to a whopper of an excuse for rejecting Miguel Estrada as a judicial candidate. 
 
"For those of us who revere the Constitution and believe in the rule of law...I believe that we are God's noble experiment. The Senate must hold up its end of the bargain. We have a duty to the judiciary, to the Constitution and, yes, to the American people."
"We have an obligation to be vigilant defenders of Constitutional obligation. We must live up to the standards of those who came before us."
 
God is saving the lightning for later, I guess. Chuckie's accusing us of making personal attacks.
 
"It's deeply and solemnly necessary to uphold the will of the founding fathers."
 
Oh, please! Chuckie should read the Constitution again. It would tell him that he is no longer a member of the majority. "Will of the people" and according to the Constitution.
 
"This goes to the very sacred obligation each of us has when we take that oath of office."
 
 

 


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Chuck is defending the Constitution and upholding the will of the founding fathers. We can all stop worrying.
1 posted on 02/05/2003 2:03:03 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
WRONG CHUCKIE - YOU ARE FRANKENSTEIN'S EXPERIMENT!
2 posted on 02/05/2003 2:04:35 PM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
HYPOCRITE!
3 posted on 02/05/2003 2:06:05 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Yea, I was listening....'ol Chucky is taking an hour to ask
the big question:

"Will Miguel Estrada vote to crush the skull of the
unborn or not....just answer the question and don't
wait for a translation?..."
4 posted on 02/05/2003 2:06:52 PM PST by TRY ONE (")
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Funny thing is, I agree 100% with what he just said- unfortunately what he is SAYING is exactly the opposite of what he is DOING...
5 posted on 02/05/2003 2:07:11 PM PST by Mr. K (all your (OPTIONAL TAG LINE) are belong to us)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I am profoundly offended by this fools coupling of God and Noble to this Senator's agenda of defending the indefensible slaughter of individual unborn humans. Schumer is an obscenity in motion.
6 posted on 02/05/2003 2:07:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I wonder if Chuckie is one of those Constitutional scholars who though Majority Leader Lott was closer to the Presidency than President Pro Temp "Sheets" Byrd??
7 posted on 02/05/2003 2:07:35 PM PST by evolved_rage (Kill a commie for mommie)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
well, he's the most junior SENIOR senator in the country...being paired with Hillary is akin to being a limitd partner of Geroge Steinbrenner.....actually, IMHO, the reason that Chuckie's waaaaaaay out front and over the top on this is that it's the beginning of his 2004 re-election campaign.....
8 posted on 02/05/2003 2:07:46 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
God's noble experiment?!?!? Revere the Constitution?!?!? GAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
9 posted on 02/05/2003 2:10:27 PM PST by Sender (A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. -WOPR)
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To: evolved_rage
You know, two of these oddball far left thingees are gonna come back to bit a whole lot of dems on the ass...the NAACP boycott of South Carolina, and the nascent effort to rename the Richard Russell Senate Office building.....after the Lott episode, many Dems are gonna seem awfully hy -po -cri-ti-cal......if they don't vote to take the sandblaster to the buildng facade..
10 posted on 02/05/2003 2:10:36 PM PST by ken5050
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The lines minus "" are mine, duh. Sorry. Chuck's still on C-Span2 and I was careless in my rush to alert others to this defender of freedom.


11 posted on 02/05/2003 2:10:44 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (From the mouths of babes, put down the loco weed, Chuckie and check your party's record.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
As I recall, the last "noble experiment" didn't work out all that well. But it was impeccably Liberal in its philosophy.
12 posted on 02/05/2003 2:11:32 PM PST by Grut
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Obviously Schumer has never read the Bible and The Constitution of The United States of America. If he has, he didn't understand what he read.



13 posted on 02/05/2003 2:12:14 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Being a fallen sinner myself, who am I to judge?

But Senator Schemer is one of those folks I wouldn't stand next to---for fear the lightning bolt would hit me too.
14 posted on 02/05/2003 2:12:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
And the RAT party is the disease of this particular experiment.
15 posted on 02/05/2003 2:12:50 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
We are God's experiment, but are not allowed to mention Him in school, are not allowed to pray to Him in school and are not allowed to read about Him in school. Heaven protect the poor child who makes the mistake of turning in homework based on a concept touching on God or faith in Him.

Yeah Chuckie, you da man. Pray for forgiveness Chuckie. It's your only hope.

16 posted on 02/05/2003 2:16:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Sender
"We must live up to the standards of those who have gone before us"....

I did not have sexual.......that woman!!

Yeh, you guys have standards. You lower the bar when it's your turn....so low, that you can walk over it.

17 posted on 02/05/2003 2:16:38 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sender
We need to treat Chuckie's comments in a manner fitting Chuckie.

Of course, if he's had a revelation and really believes what he's saying, he will immediately denounce Ted Kennedy and both Clintons and join the Republican party. (^;

18 posted on 02/05/2003 2:18:00 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men. Willy Wonka)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
What a hypocritical trip.

I shall once again not vote for this "expletive deleted".

Nice post.

Thanks for letting me vent.

19 posted on 02/05/2003 2:20:26 PM PST by jos65
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I believe that we are God's noble experiment.

It almost sounds like Chuckie is trying to do a take-off on Reagan's quote of John Winthrop's statement, "We will be as a city upon a hill.", only Winthrop said it better. Only, how dare a Democrat drag in a mention of God? And if it is their "noble experiment", Chuckie must have Dr. Frank N. Furter cast as the lead scientist.

20 posted on 02/05/2003 2:20:50 PM PST by xJones ("Dammit, Jim, she's dead! Get off her! - McCoy)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"It's deeply and solemnly necessary to uphold the will of the founding fathers." = "redefining the will of the founding fathers."
21 posted on 02/05/2003 2:21:18 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: Mr. K
Funny thing is, I agree 100% with what he just said- unfortunately what he is SAYING is exactly the opposite of what he is DOING...

Yep. There seems to be an epidemic of hypocrisy going around.

22 posted on 02/05/2003 2:22:22 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men. Willy Wonka)
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To: Mr. K; biblewonk
Funny thing is, I agree 100% with what he just said

If "experiment" implies that God could be surprised or proven wrong by how His "noble experiment" turns out, it's a poor choice of words, at best.

That would make about as much sense as what the Episcopal church minister said while Dubya was in attendance last Sunday morning. "God's heart is more heartbroken than our own," said the Rev. Luis Leon. Pardon me if I'm misinterpreting him but, it sounds to me like he's saying God was helpless to do anything to prevent the Columbia incident.

23 posted on 02/05/2003 2:23:37 PM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Bible)
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To: Sacajaweau
When did the Left get concerned about standards? The only standard C Schumer is looking for is zero gun ownership.

If he had taken time to make some observations he might realize God knows what he is doing.

24 posted on 02/05/2003 2:30:36 PM PST by oyez (Is this a great country...........Or what?)
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To: ken5050
actually, IMHO, the reason that Chuckie's waaaaaaay out front and over the top on this is that it's the beginning of his 2004 re-election campaign.....

Won't he need Hispanic votes in that election?

25 posted on 02/05/2003 2:31:28 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
What about removing CLINTON Chuckie?

"For those of us who revere the Constitution and believe in the rule of law

"We have an obligation to be vigilant defenders of Constitutional obligation. We must live up to the standards of those who came before us."

26 posted on 02/05/2003 2:36:02 PM PST by STD
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To: MHGinTN
Dems. are so offensive these days that I listen with one ear, remain detached out of self-defense.


27 posted on 02/05/2003 2:36:41 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? Anonymous)
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To: EternalVigilance
Sen. Pete Domenici was shaking (w/ anger?) and just dared the Dems. to filibuster - told Schumer that he was very familiar with the institution (rules) of the Senate. Bring it on!
28 posted on 02/05/2003 2:39:46 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? Anonymous)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
And he made it clear he would like Senate leaders (Frist) to force a REAL filibuster!!!
29 posted on 02/05/2003 2:42:34 PM PST by JackTom
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To: DoughtyOne
We are God's experiment, but are not allowed to mention Him in school

Good point!

Sen. Orrin Hatch is on fire now! He is not going to let the minority party repeat the abuses of 2002. He even raised his voice. 'I am so doggone tired of hearing about this Professor Bender.' Orrin's nailing Bender now - Estrada's #1 critic.

'Mr. Bender is an extremist by even the most liberal standards." Bender's a porn defender. Go, Orrin!

30 posted on 02/05/2003 2:44:29 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? Anonymous)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
On Paul Bender, see this source:

A recent exception to this generalization underscores the perils that arise when inexperienced political lawyers overrule the career lawyers and insist on an abrupt change in position in the middle of a case. Near the beginning of his service as President Clinton's first Solicitor General, Drew Days filed a confession of error in a brief on the merits in Knox v. United States, 510 U.S. 939 (1993), a child pornography conviction. Although the career lawyers in the Bush Administration had argued that the conviction should be upheld, Days-reportedly at the urging of his new Political Deputy Paul Bender-argued that the lower courts had applied an improperly broad interpretation of the statute. See Joan Biskupic, Politics Still Plays a Role in Solicitor General's Office, WASH. POST, Feb. 22, 1994, at A1. According to the new Solicitor General's position, free speech considerations required that the "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area" of children be interpreted to mean exhibitions in which the genital areas are fully exposed. In the films produced by Knox, by contrast, young girls were shown cavorting in tight bathing suits, leotards, or underpants. See Brief for the United States, at 10-13, 20-23, Knox v. United States, 510 U.S. 939 (1993) (No. 92-1183). Upon receiving this confession or error, the Court vacated and remanded the conviction for reconsideration by the lower court.

Days' action was undoubtedly motivated by sincere concerns about free speech values. But it proved to be deeply embarrassing to the Clinton Administration. Republicans had a field day suggesting that the Administration favored coddling child pornographers, and secured a unanimous resolution in the Senate condemning the new interpretation. See Biskupic, supra note 26. When, on remand, the Third Circuit rejected the new interpretation and reaffirmed Knox's conviction, Attorney General Reno took the highly unusual step of publicly repudiating the Solicitor General's prior position, and signing the opposition to certiorari herself. See David G. Savage & Ronald J. Ostrow, U.S. Won't Fight Pornography Conviction, L.A. TIMES, Nov. 11, 1994, at A34. The Court then denied certiorari without comment. See Knox v. United States, 513 U.S. 1109 (1995).

31 posted on 02/05/2003 2:50:03 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"For those of us who revere the Constitution and believe in the rule of law...I believe that we are God's noble experiment. The Senate must hold up its end of the bargain. We have a duty to the judiciary, to the Constitution and, yes, to the American people." "We have an obligation to be vigilant defenders of Constitutional obligation. We must live up to the standards of those who came before us."

"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"

We revere the Constitution = we have a duty to the Constitution
We believe in the Rule of Law = We have a duty to the Judiciary
I believe we are God's noble experiment = We have a duty to the American people

"Did you guess which thing was not like the others? Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
If you guessed this one is not like the others,
Then you're absolutely...right!"

32 posted on 02/05/2003 2:50:05 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: jos65
Thanks for letting me vent.

You're very welcome. Shared venting is helpful....especially when the beer's gone, the dog's hiding and friends no longer return calls. (^;

33 posted on 02/05/2003 2:50:44 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Give me a break!" Sen. Orrin Hatch re. Dems / Prof. "Porn" Bender's attack on Estrada.)
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To: aristeides
Yep, but...the Dem party in NY is in chaos..they outnumber the GOP by several million, let they've lost all the recent big major statewide races....and NYC, one of the more liberal cities in the country, keeps electing GOP mayors....actually, the black and the Hispanics are starting to bump heads over power and patronage, and both are trying to squeeze out the remaining Jewish pols....( hear that Chuckie)....there were some bitter primary races in the last two elections....the old line black pols..Rangel, Dinkens, et al...they're on the decline, and the new group of Dem political leaders are mainly Hispanic..and of course, are we really sure if Hillary likes the idea of having Chuckie around?..Hmmmm...after all...NY's "senior" senator sounds sooooooo much better than "junior" senator...Chuckie might, just might, be the upcoming next victim of being a friend of the Clintons.....if he's gone....they absolutely control the Dem party in the State...and can annoint the next governor nominee
34 posted on 02/05/2003 2:51:10 PM PST by ken5050
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; justshe; Mo1; Howlin
What a nitwit.

"...I believe that we are God's noble experiment."

What?

God, the Creator of the Universe is somehow forced to "experiment"?

Implying God doesnt know what He is doing? As if He needs some trial and error to see if this whole Constitutional groove actually works.

The entire thought process shows just how adolescent Schumer's faith is.

35 posted on 02/05/2003 2:57:54 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: aristeides
Thank you for that information, aristeides. Notice how the LA Times spun the story to make Republicans look prudish. The real story is the $$$ Dems. reap from porn peddlers and their many legal defenders.

It's for the children.

36 posted on 02/05/2003 2:58:31 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I'm gonna defend Mr. Estrada on the floor!" Sen. Hatch)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"I believe that we are God's noble experiment"

*Ahem*

"The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity."

Certainly not God's gift to Democratic hypocracy.
37 posted on 02/05/2003 3:01:30 PM PST by freedumb2003
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To: newgeezer
This is the first time I have ever seen your user id but you and I are now friends.

38 posted on 02/05/2003 3:02:34 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
Implying God doesnt know what He is doing?

Chuck did rather put his foot in it - offending Judeo-Christian and secular constituents.

We can hope.

39 posted on 02/05/2003 3:03:15 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Nothing but a politically motivated smear job." Sen. Hatch)
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To: Alex Murphy
*just nods his head*

You have to love when the Democrats get desperate....you never know what they'll say. They do remind me alot of the French, say whatever it takes to survive. How hypocritical for a Liberal to use God in any way shape or form.
40 posted on 02/05/2003 3:04:00 PM PST by Blue Scourge (Proud American...)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Teddy the Swimmer rising now, to defend Paul Bender!
41 posted on 02/05/2003 3:04:09 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Kennedy defending Paul Bender! Said he hopes other Senators can argue substance instead of personal attacks.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
42 posted on 02/05/2003 3:05:51 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: aristeides
MALDEF, that bastion of Latino Victimhood, has come out against Estrada (shades of the blacks against Thomas).

See today's LAT Op Ed section (it is pointless to post a link -- it's a site that needs registration).

Victimhood politics are by definition exclusionary and thus disqualifies anyone for truly higher judgeships (I have no explanation for the 9th Circuit). Only level-headed people with the ability to reason can make it this far, but level-headed people oppose holding peopledown with victimhood politics.

This this debacle.

43 posted on 02/05/2003 3:06:50 PM PST by freedumb2003
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To: freedumb2003
I wonder what the rest of the left had to promise MALDEF to get them to go along.
44 posted on 02/05/2003 3:08:29 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
>>Teddy the Swimmer rising now<<

RUN!!! HE'S GOING TO DO A BELLY FLOP!!! SAVE YOURSELVES!!!

;)
45 posted on 02/05/2003 3:08:45 PM PST by freedumb2003
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To: JackTom
I think Kennedy wasn't planning on speaking, but heard Orrin's passionate defense of Miguel and attack on Bender. Kennedy's now defending Bender.

Why is Kennedy co-chairing the judicial committee?

I don't want to know.

"DC Circuit is one of the most important in the country - second to only the Supreme Court."

Ted mentioned civil rights, enviral law...leftist causes. That explains a lot. How dare Kennedy imply that Estrada wouldn't follow the law...or that President Bush puts special interests first. Kennedy's protecting his labor union power. Did he miss a big leftist special interest group? Ted thinks that the DC court is Dem. territory.

46 posted on 02/05/2003 3:09:35 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Schumer's lame line implying that he is remotely cognizant of God and His ways/works is comparable to...

...an uptight Northeastern, Liberal, white, millionaire, politician who travels down to South Carolina for a stump speech at a black church and tries to pretend he comprehends the black community.

It just doesnt flow.

47 posted on 02/05/2003 3:10:47 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
read later
48 posted on 02/05/2003 3:11:33 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: freedumb2003; aristeides
I didn't know that the DC Circuit court was the Dems private property. Good!

Freepers, please call your Senators and tell them you support the nomination of Miguel Estrada to the DC Circuit court. Our good guy Senators have been under attack from the borg and appreciate our support - and call the Dems., too! They get all flustered when Republicans rally.

49 posted on 02/05/2003 3:14:09 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: VaBthang4
Amen to all you said, my brother!
50 posted on 02/05/2003 3:14:45 PM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Bible)
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