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AFRAID S. KOREA NOW STARTS 'SPINNING' EARLIER ANTI-AMERICAN DEMONSTRATIONS IN SEOUL (What?)
The Korea Times (in English) ^ | 6 Februaryu 2003 | The Korea Times (Sung Tae Kyung)

Posted on 2/6/2003, 3:08:08 PM by AmericanInTokyo

Majority of (South) Koreans Object to Withdrawal of US Troops’

By Sung Tae-kyung

Staff Reporter (Korea Times)

``The North Korean nuclear issue must be solved peacefully because if the United States attacks North Korea, they will attack us,” said Hahn Hwa-kap, chairman of the (conciliatory w/North Korea) South Korean Millennium Democratic Party (MDP), adding that he conveyed the standpoint of the government to U.S. Congressmen during his recent visit to Washington.

In an interview with The Korea Times, Hahn, a third-term lawmaker, expressed concern over talks in the U.S. on the possibility of withdrawing the 37,000 American troops stationed in South Korea, due to misunderstanding of the candlelight vigils held here as anti-American rallies.

Thousands have gathered in the heart of Seoul to mourn the deaths of two schoolgirls who were accidentally crushed by a U.S. armored vehicle and asked for revision on the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA). According to the agreement governing U.S. soldiers here, South Korean courts do not have jurisdiction over the crimes committed by GIs.

``Would we be asking for revision of the SOFA if we want them out?’’ said Hahn. ``When I met former secretary of state James A. Baker in Washington, he told me the U.S. will pull out its soldiers if that is what the Korean people want.’’ But Hahn explained that Baker had hinted that once the U.S. army is removed, regardless of what happens on the Korean peninsula, the U.S. would no longer be able to lend an immediate hand because there would be no base.

``So I told him that an absolute majority of Koreans object to the withdrawal of the U.S. soldiers. After I mentioned that at the South-North summit President Kim Dae-jung and North Korean leader Kim Jong-il had agreed on the necessity of U.S. soldiers on the peninsula even after reunification, the issue was not brought up again.’’ Hahn said.

According to the MDP chairman, although several Congressmen he met seemed more concerned about matters regarding the SOFA than the North Korean nuclear issue, the administration was not considering a pullout. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly has said that the media had inaccurately described the candlelight vigils as an expression of anti-American sentiment, he added.

Regarding the North Korean aid scandal, Hahn said he hopes to see President Kim Dae-jung speak directly to the people and ask understanding. But he added that if too much is revealed, inter-Korean relations could be in jeopardy. ``If specific details on how much money was transferred to North Korea are disclosed, trust in the North would be broken and dialogue could be deadlocked.’’

Since Roh Moo-hyun was elected president last December, Hahn has been under pressure by a reformist faction to step down from the party’s chairmanship. ``I have already packed and cleaned out my desk at my office in MDP headquarters,’’ said Hahn, partially confirming his resignation before Roh’s inauguration on Feb. 25.

``I will step down to give Roh a free hand,” he said, adding he was worried how he will explain the decision to the approximately 15,000 delegates who voted for him as leader of the party.

Hahn also spoke of the Robert Kim case and said he had requested the Baker & Botts law firm of the U.S. to take the case pro bono and it was under consideration. ``A petition by some high-powered congressman will be followed. But as it is under process, it is hard to say their names,’’ he said.

Robert Kim, a former civilian employee of U.S. naval intelligence, was convicted of secretly providing classified information to the Korean Embassy in Washington in 1996, and is still in prison.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: accident; antius; demonstrations; military; nkorea; nukes; skorea; spin; students
Hmm.

An apology and a sewing back together of all those USA flags ripped up in Seoul by radical, spoiled South Korean students who yearn for "The Good Life in Pyongyang", would be a nice start.

1 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:08:09 PM by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thanks for this.

(1) Robert Kim should be hung, not amnestied.

(2) South Koreans are idiots if they think bribing the North will bring either peace or reunification.

2 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:13:38 PM by wideawake
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hmmm.... It appears that we have MORE anti-American demonstrators IN the US that in S. Korea. Hmmmm....
3 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:14:41 PM by cinFLA
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To: AmericanInTokyo
BUMP!
Thanks for posting this, AIT!

In fact, thanks for all the great info you provide here. You are truly an asset to Free Republic!

4 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:16:44 PM by lucyblue
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To: wideawake
South Koreans are idiots if they think bribing the North will bring either peace or reunification.

It will not bring freedom or prosperity, but strengthing North Korea could very well bring peace and reunification.

Just not in the way that they'd like.

5 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:21:55 PM by Steel Wolf
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Wait! Come back! We didn't mean it when we called you scum sucking baby killers and told you to leave! It was all just a big misunderstanding, a joke.
6 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:23:27 PM by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Is Bill Clinton their opening act?

My 14 year old is totally disgusted with the "Stones" after hearing on the radio that Mr. Bill was their opening act.
7 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:26:11 PM by Just mythoughts
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It would be something if these foriegn countries had to bear the real cost of their "freedom".
8 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:27:56 PM by Gary Boldwater
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thanks for the view from the far east. If you put together a ping list for the Korean crisis put me on it.
9 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:36:28 PM by Straight Vermonter (I don't believe in hyphenating Americans)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
U.S. Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly has said that the media had inaccurately described the candlelight vigils as an expression of anti-American sentiment, he added.

Political, labor, and student demonstrations and marches have on occasion become confrontational and/or violent. In September 2002, three U.S. soldiers were confronted by a group of activists on a train, and one of the soldiers was forcibly taken to an anti-American demonstration and held against his will for three hours. Later that month, firebombs were hurled at a U.S. military installation near Uijongbu. In October 2002, a group of seven demonstrators climbed over the wall of the U.S. Embassy in Seoul and attempted to set the American flag on fire.

Although the Republic of Korea is generally safe, American citizens in the Republic of Korea can minimize personal risks to themselves and their property by exercising caution and avoiding areas in which demonstrations are being held, as well as by avoiding confrontation with protestors.

Can James Kelly explain why this travel warning is straight from the U.S. Department of State

10 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:46:54 PM by Iwentsouth
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To: lucyblue
thanks lcblue

Well I strolled around Chongro-gu in Central Seoul near the US Embassy a few weeks ago. Nobody so much as put a finger on me or stared, and I was in a crowd of nearly 20,000 anti US types very near me. Some were just along for the ride and wanted SOFA revision and an apology, but others, the more radical leaders, were clearly pro-NK and wanted US troops out.

I did see several "No Americans Allowed" signs on just a few S. Korean coffee shop. It was more or less a national temper tantrum, more than anything else.

11 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:51:57 PM by AmericanInTokyo (I can live with two equally opposite possibilities co-existing...the whole "yin-yang" thing.....)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
LOL. I figured this would happen. Watch them now get equally violent with anti-DPRK protests and burning Kim Jong il in effigy. Sometimes I think people there have a lot of free time on their hands, kimchee gives them unbounding energy, and they just want to argue and fight about something.
12 posted on 2/6/2003, 3:53:29 PM by AmericanInTokyo (I can live with two equally opposite possibilities co-existing...the whole "yin-yang" thing.....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Very few papers reported the counter demonstration by over 10000 S. Korean Christian, IMMEDIATELY afte the student demonstrations. These level-headed, freedom oriented S. Koreans stated that they fully support the U.S. and that they do NOT want the US to leave Korea.

It is instructive that S. Korea is now a nation with a Christian MAJORITY. From practically zero percentage Christian early in the 20th century to the end of the Korean War, Christianity is now approaching 40% of the population. Traditional religion hovers at or right under 30% and non-religious/secular is the assumption about the remainder.

Christianity, however, continues to grow. S.Korea is amidst a vital spiritual revival and has been for some time. While there are some dissidents toward US presence in that group, as in any slice of a population, the Christian majority forms a solid base for US support, AND they look to many churches in the US as friends and co-workers.

13 posted on 2/6/2003, 5:13:41 PM by xzins (Babylon - you have been weighed in the balance and been found wanting.)
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To: xzins
Forty percent does not a majority make. That is a 'plurality'.
14 posted on 2/6/2003, 5:20:53 PM by johnb838 (Bush gets it)
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To: johnb838
You are correct.

In terms of religion, it's Christian, traditional, secular.

40,30,30.

When they say the majority of Americans voted for Bill Clinton in each of his races, what do they mean? Are they also misusing the correct terms? Or is there a dual way of using the word "majority."

I appreciate you wisdom on this.
15 posted on 2/6/2003, 5:24:40 PM by xzins (Babylon - you have been weighed in the balance and been found wanting.)
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To: Gary Boldwater
>>It would be something if these foriegn countries had to bear the real cost of their "freedom". <<

Maybe we should let them...
16 posted on 2/6/2003, 6:17:11 PM by appalachian_dweller (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
There is now a seemingly credible story that South Korea has secretly funneled US $1.7 Billion to the North during the Kim DJ Presidency.

This secret payoff money, a large part of which was funneled, or laundered may be a better word, through Hyundai has apparently been used to beef up and modernize the North Korean military.

How many Ameericans will want to buy automobiles and other goods from a company that is supporting the enemies of the United States with such significant military aid? As this story gets legs it has the potential to hurt South Korea.n exports.

Maybe that is the real reason, rather than the potential to upset North-South repproachment, that the South Korean governmnet has squelched the oficial enquity into these payoffs.

And the meagre credibility of the MDP will become completely dissapated. I look for a resurgent Grand National Party in the next few weeks.
17 posted on 2/6/2003, 7:21:07 PM by John Valentine (Living in Seoul, and aware of the threat.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I hope thet like to eat bark
18 posted on 2/6/2003, 8:01:36 PM by bulldogs
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hmmmm?? Guess the talks went well with the U.S.

In other words - if you don't want our support - we can always pull our 37,000 troops out of your way ...??

Very clever ploy here by the U.S. Powell does it again !!
19 posted on 2/6/2003, 9:32:53 PM by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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