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1 posted on 02/07/2003 11:56:55 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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2 posted on 02/07/2003 12:01:23 PM PST by and the horse you rode in on
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french fried
3 posted on 02/07/2003 12:02:19 PM PST by Vaduz
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You forgot the battle on the Plains of Abraham where French General Montcalm lost to an inferior force of British regulars and native mercenaries led by General Wolfe, who scaled the heights of the St. Lawrence River in the middle of the night to rout the French Army and kick the French out of North America.
4 posted on 02/07/2003 12:07:09 PM PST by albertabound (w)
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You forgot the battle on the Plains of Abraham where French General Montcalm lost to an inferior force of British regulars and native mercenaries led by General Wolfe, who scaled the heights of the St. Lawrence River in the middle of the night to rout the French Army and kick the French out of North America.
5 posted on 02/07/2003 12:07:23 PM PST by albertabound (w)
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How about the boming and sinking of the unarmed, civilian "Rainbow Warrior"? Certainly one of France's greatist achievements?
6 posted on 02/07/2003 12:09:46 PM PST by Drango (don't need no stinkin' tag line)
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Well they did defeat Greenpeace at the infamous "Battle of the Rainbow Warrior."
7 posted on 02/07/2003 12:10:30 PM PST by dfwgator
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Shame on you for wasting so much cyber-space! If you had concentrated solely on French military victories, your article post would look like this:




















Simpler, isn't it?
8 posted on 02/07/2003 12:10:54 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein."

OMG, that's funny.
10 posted on 02/07/2003 12:11:04 PM PST by Bluegrass Federalist
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Vive La France!


11 posted on 02/07/2003 12:11:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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Remembering the First Rule. Most of their anti-terros squads of the 70s and 80s were led by Vietnameese who left SEA in the 50s.

Corallary to First Rule: Only decent French troops are not French. i.e. FFL, The Frog FOREIGN Legion.

The 4/11 Panzer Grenadiers/Light moved from Wermacht to FFL almost to the man, and were most effective FL force in SEA!
13 posted on 02/07/2003 12:12:52 PM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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On a similar note: Nous Rendons!

-Eric

14 posted on 02/07/2003 12:13:32 PM PST by E Rocc
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To be fair, the French did beat the Mexicans in the 1860's, but only after achieving a 6-1 numerical advantage.

However, remember that Cinco De Mayo commemorates the victory of a 4,500 Mexican poorly-armed militia over a 6,500 professional French army at The Battle Of Puebla in 1862.

The French victory of 1863 was short lived, however, after the U.S. provided aid to Mexico to oust the cheese-eaters, who were expelled permanmently in 1867.

15 posted on 02/07/2003 12:14:58 PM PST by Smedley
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It is generally accepted fact in diplomatic circles that France enthuastically backed the digging of the Cross Channel Tunnel ("Chunnel") because it would facilitate setting up a government in exile in London much more quickly in case of any threat to French politicians.
17 posted on 02/07/2003 12:16:20 PM PST by HardStarboard
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This, of course, explains how and why the French had a worldwide empire (most of western Africa, half of the current United States, Vietnam and Cambodia); and how under Napoleon they controlled all of Europe except Russia, which then led Napoleon's pridefulness to the 1812 invasion.
19 posted on 02/07/2003 12:19:29 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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Question.

You know the sterotype that Frenchmen are short. (Kind of like Corporal Le Beau (sp?) on "Hogan's Heroes".)

I heard this was true because the tall Frenchmen were most likely killed in these wars, leaving lots of short Frenchmen to procreate.

Has anyone else heard or can verify this? I'm serious.
22 posted on 02/07/2003 12:26:18 PM PST by NEWwoman
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Ping!
28 posted on 02/07/2003 12:50:14 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore)
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In fairness, one should note that the Franks under Charles Martel did save both Europe & Christianity with their 732 defeat of a much larger Muslim force at Tours. Not that this really makes a big difference to their modern disposition. Hell, look what became of the Roman fighting ethic...
31 posted on 02/07/2003 12:59:07 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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This part of Canadian history, our Alamo , but they are French and they did leave their mark.


Adam Dollard, Sieur des Ormeaux.
Dollard was a 25 year old professional soldier from France. He was posted to the colony of New France in 1657.

By 1660, New France was facing a situation. Over 900 Iroquois, in two separate parties, were moving to unite as a prelude to their attacks on Montreal, Trois Riviere and Quebec. Adam Dollard recognized the situation and decided to take action.

One of the better descriptions of the heroism of Dollard was described by Historian Robert Jarvis. He wrote:

He (Dollard) approached the governor of New France, Paul de Chomedey, Sieur de Maisonneuve, in Montreal. Dollard proposed that he, along with a small force of volunteers, could set up a defensive position in the hope of preventing a junction of the two Iroquois bands. He wanted to make his stand near the rapids of Chute a Blondeau, where the Ottawa and St. Lawrence Rivers converge - - a place called the Long Sault.

Maisonneuve assented to Dollard's request, and Dollard started to gather recruits. By the end of April, 1660, 16 men had come forward. They were all young men of humble station: discharged soldiers, farmers and artisans. The oldest was 30. Almost all the rest were in their early 20's. They all had mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and sweethearts in the three settlements, and ,if their desperate efforts failed, they would all die -- either by musket and tomahawk in the burning villages, or by barbarous torture after capture. The task of Dollard and his companions was to die so that the people that they loved could live. With no doubt in their minds as to their fate, the 17 young men confessed, made their wills, and received the last sacrament in the stone chapel of the Hotel-Dieu.

After two weeks of arduous travel, Dollard and his men reached the Long Sault. A short distance form the Ottawa, on the Eastern side of the Sault, Dollard found an abandoned stockade, but for some reason, he and his men dawdled instead of repairing the stockade and provisioning it with food and water.

Dollard was joined by a party of 40 Huron under their chief, Anahotaha, as well as by four Algonquin. After two days, scouts at the head of the Sault spotted two Iroquois canoes coming towards the stockade. The Frenchmen and their allies ambushed the canoes but one brave escaped to warn the main party. Forty or fifty canoes soon landed, and the Iroquois warriors immediately rushed the stockade. Dollard and his men fired volley after volley into them and they broke. A second attack was launched, this time from all sides. When it and a third attack failed, the Iroquois retreated and held a council of war.

For five days, there was a lull in the fighting. Renegade Herons fighting with the Iroquois directed a constant barrage of taunts and promises at the Herons fighting with Dollard. One by one, the Herons jumped over the barricades and, in the end, only the gallant Anahotaha remained.

Inside the stockade, the 22 men stood by their loopholes and waited. Dollard and his companions were stupefied from lack of sleep. Water and food, like hope, had long since vanished. Escape or rescue was impossible All they could do was to buy some time to save their families.

On the fifth day, more than 500 warriors from the Richelieu arrived, and now over 700 hundred Iroquois faced Dollard. For three days, the Iroquois prepared for the final assault, keeping up a day-and-night harassment against Dollard's little band.

On the morning of the fourth day, the assault was delivered from all quarters, spearheaded by volunteers carrying torches and crude shields. The attack was beaten back. A second assault reached the barricades, and the braves started to set fire to the stockade. In desperation, Dollard tried to toss a hand-made grenade filled with musket balls and gunpowder over the stockade into the midst of the attackers. The grenade struck the top of the barricade and fell back into the stockade. It exploded killing several of the defenders and blinding others. In the following confusion, the Iroquois gained the barricade. In hand-to-hand fighting, Dollard and all of his men were soon cut down. The epic of the Long Sault was over.

The Iroquois returned to their own territories. They reasoned that, if Dollard and his few followers could cause them so much trouble at the Long Sault, an attack on Montreal would be far too costly
32 posted on 02/07/2003 1:11:14 PM PST by Snowyman
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33 posted on 02/07/2003 1:12:18 PM PST by mhking ("The home team Iraqis have won the toss and elected to receive...")
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Let's not forget Fashoda 1898 - the embarrassing French attempt to seize control of the Nile Valley.

After Captain Marchand and his starving company were surrounded in their mud fort by Kitchener's army, they worked out a face-saving surrender.

For Marchand, that is - not for Paris.

35 posted on 02/07/2003 2:02:07 PM PST by The Iguana
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