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The Salon Interview: Camille Paglia
Salon.com ^ | 2/7/03 | David Talbot

Posted on 02/07/2003 12:22:57 PM PST by andrew

Edited on 02/07/2003 12:40:38 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Salon Interview: Camille Paglia Bad omen: Why the Columbia disaster should make Bush think twice about rushing to war with Iraq.

- - - - - - - - - - - - By David Talbot

Feb. 7, 2003 |

Camille Paglia is a rarity in the increasingly polarized world of public intellectuals, a high-profile thinker and writer who is not readily identified with any political camp or party line. She burst onto the scene in 1990 following the publication of her book, "Sexual Personae." Paglia was a rough-trade feminist not afraid to challenge the orthodoxy of the women's movement or its reigning sisterhood; a professor from a small college with no qualms about torching the Parisian academic trends then enthralling Ivy League humanities departments; a self-proclaimed "Democratic libertarian" who voted twice for Bill Clinton and then loudly denounced him for bringing shame to his office.

Given Paglia's originality and unpredictability, we had no idea what to expect when we phoned her earlier this week for her opinions on the Bush administration's looming war with Iraq. Paglia proudly describes herself as a Dionysian child of the '60s, a generation not known for its martial spirit. And yet, during her long run as a Salon columnist, she developed an enthusiastic following among conservatives, including retired and active military personnel, for her eloquent tributes to family, tradition, country and uniformed service, as well as her stop-your-blubbering take on modern American life.

Paglia retired her Salon column last year to focus on teaching -- she is university professor of humanities and media studies at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia - and to finish her fifth book, a study of poetry that will be published by Pantheon Books. She returns in the Salon Interview to reveal her opinions on Iraq for the first time. "The foreign press has asked me repeatedly to comment on Iraq, and I've said I don't think it's right as an American citizen to do that. I said I should reserve my criticisms of the administration for home consumption," said Paglia. "That's why I'm talking to you now."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: camillepaglia; iraq; war
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1 posted on 02/07/2003 12:22:57 PM PST by andrew
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To: andrew
Go FreeRepublic !!!!!!! Referenced on Drudge. Why not reference the original article though?

Go Freepers !!!!!

BTW...Paglia is an idiot.
2 posted on 02/07/2003 12:27:42 PM PST by kerberos3
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To: andrew
This is Salon Premium content and really should not have been posted here. It needs to be removed. Haven't we learned this the hard way once?
3 posted on 02/07/2003 12:30:55 PM PST by Henk
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To: andrew
Just one word for Paglia on this one: weak.

Who would have thought that self-proclaimed diesel-dyke Paglia would take such a feeble, even a dull and conformist, stand? It's as if she read every wimpy article in the liberal media and sucked it up without a thought.
4 posted on 02/07/2003 12:31:15 PM PST by Cicero
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To: kerberos3
I'll never forgive her for celebrating the Clinton/Reno blitzkrieg in Miami.
5 posted on 02/07/2003 12:32:02 PM PST by Rocko
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To: andrew
Wow! Drudge linking directly to Free Republic. Talk about moving on up.
6 posted on 02/07/2003 12:32:36 PM PST by GeorgeWBiscuit
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To: Cicero
I have some advice to Camille - take her check from Salon for this interview straight to the bank.
7 posted on 02/07/2003 12:34:28 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: andrew; Admin Moderator
Already posted here.

(Admin Moderator pinged to lock duplicate thread.)

8 posted on 02/07/2003 12:34:37 PM PST by steve-b
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To: kerberos3
Hard for a Zebra to change it stripes on real issues. That’s why I love this Iraq situation. It’s a great barometer of where people are coming from.
9 posted on 02/07/2003 12:37:54 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: kerberos3
Actually, unlike most lefties, who are idiots and fancy themselves clever, I have the impression Paglia really is too clever for her own good. For one thing she writes way better than most leftists, and for another, she seems to have a sense of humor.
10 posted on 02/07/2003 12:43:50 PM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: andrew
Subtle bitch, isn't she?!
11 posted on 02/07/2003 12:45:57 PM PST by ricpic
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To: dirtboy
They probably gave her 20,000 shares of stock.
12 posted on 02/07/2003 12:47:34 PM PST by Cicero
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To: steve-b; Admin Moderator
Should the Admin Moderator lock the thread Drudge has linked to?
13 posted on 02/07/2003 12:48:50 PM PST by Cicero
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To: andrew
However, I'm extremely upset about our rush to war at the present moment.

What rush? This is the French/Saudi/Daschle line, hoping that delay will end up with no action, like in 1998. This whole charade has less to do with Bush and Hussein than French and Russian fears their Saddam approved oil contracts will be revoked, and Saudi strategic policy to keep Iraqi oil production depressed while they assume the Iraqi shortfalls of previous OPEC allotments. It's called "containment" ie, money for Saudi and France.

Don't take it from me, hear it from an OPEC official himself:

The ideal outcome for Russia is exactly the same as that for Saudi Arabia and OPEC, i.e. maintenance of the status quo and the sanctions regime on Iraqi oil. Thus, Russia's opposition to a U.S. invasion of Iraq is completely rational.
It would be an irony indeed if events in Baghdad this winter were to signal the end of the modern oil era and OPEC, just as 42 years ago they saw its start

If there truly were an authentic international coalition that had been carefully built, and if the administration had demonstrated sensitivity to the fragility of international relations, I'd be 100 percent in favor of an allied military expedition to go into Iraq and find and dispose of all weapons of mass destruction.

Again, the French/Saudi/Daschle delay tactic. Totally disconnected from reality, totally connected to some lefty and ill-informed media hypothecations. Jeez, our receptionist who doesn't follow the news much knows that we have allies. At least Paglia doesn't use the word "unilateral" - a slogan of the ignorant.

But most members of the current administration seem to have little sense that there's an enormous, complex world beyond our borders.

"Seem"...meaning what columnists did she read to filter the information for her? Another example of media-privileged "intellectuals" wrapt up in their own daily business, but speaking with "authority" about something some teenager with a computer has a better understanding of. Maybe she reading too many French representations of America and our admin.

The president himself has never traveled much in his life.

Sniff...nose in air.

They seem to think the universe consists of America and then everyone else -- small-potatoes people who can be steamrolled. And I'm absolutely appalled at the lack of acknowledgment of the cost to ordinary Iraqi citizens of any incursion by us, especially aerial bombardment.

Let me guess ... their "voices" aren't beang "heard" because some American newspaper doesn't talk about them enough? I'm surprised, she's just reacting to the patina of media representations and interests as if it reflected some reality.

Regime change

That's been US policy since 1998.

14 posted on 02/07/2003 12:49:25 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Cicero
They probably gave her 20,000 shares of stock.

Probably dropped $200 in total value by the time she got to the door.

15 posted on 02/07/2003 12:49:31 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: GeorgeWBiscuit
Wow! Drudge linking directly to Free Republic. Talk about moving on up.

Actually, Drudge listed FR in his resources column a couple of years ago and then decided to take the FR link down. Who knows why? I think some of the views expressed on FR maybe a little too hardcore right-wing for Drudge.

16 posted on 02/07/2003 12:50:16 PM PST by Norman Arbuthnot
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To: kerberos3
Drudge delinked to FreeRepublic a longtime ago. Didn't like the competition, it seems.
17 posted on 02/07/2003 12:51:58 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Norman Arbuthnot
Someone should ask Drudge about why his website has been running ads for a website that sells old videos that would be of high entertainment value to Senator Robert Byrd.
18 posted on 02/07/2003 12:55:48 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: andrew
Infiniti is one of the few advertisers left on Salon. To help Salon get below .05 cents a share....send Infinite a comment. Ask why they are funding this vulgar site that hates America, hates our military and hates our values?

Tell 'em your a rich Republican and you'll never drive one of their cars! Link: Infiniti

19 posted on 02/07/2003 1:25:35 PM PST by Drango (don't need no stinkin' tag line)
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To: andrew
You have to tip your hat to her for her "ominous" reading of the shuttle disaster. That was, at the very least, one of the creepiest arguments for rethinking a full-throttle, speedy assault I've come across yet.
20 posted on 02/07/2003 1:29:05 PM PST by marts (No more horsepoo!)
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