Posted on 02/07/2003 6:24:30 PM PST by Karadjordje
This crimes are one of the most detailed documented crimes in the Bosnian war!. In his campaign he, his troops and his mudshahedin fighters butchered over 1,200 Serbian civilians and injured over 3,000 in and around Srebrenica municipalities. 52 Serbian villages had been destroyed. This crimes are well documented in the book "Chronicle of our graveyard'" ("Hronika naseg groblja") (<- click)
MUSLIM ENCLAVE COMMANDER RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF OVER 1,000 SERBS
B e l g r a d e, Nov. 22 (Tanjug) - Former Commander of the Eastern Bosnian Muslim enclave of Srebrenica Naser Oric will be the first Muslim to be indicted by the Hague-based International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, the Belgrade weekly Telegraf said. The weekly quoted survivors' testimonies, collected in the book 'the chronicle of our graveyard' by Milivoje Ivanisevic, as saying that Oric's troops brutally killed more than 1,000 Serbs in the region of Srebrenica. Rajko Jovanovic from the village of Jazestica near Srebrenica said that in his village on August 8, 1992 Oric's soldiers broke Dragan Mladenovic' skull with an axe, beheaded Andjelko Mladenovic, killed another five people and torched 55 houses. Milojka Marinkovic said that on September 24, 1992, Oric's soldiers killed 30 inhabitants of the Serb village of Podravanje, including her father, two brothers, mother and five other relatives. Dozens of Serbs were killed in Srebrenica prisons controlled by Oric and according to the survivors' testimonies, the guards inscribed crosses on Serbs' bodies with sharp implements and poured salt over them. Muslim civilians who last year moved to the northwestern Bosnian town of Tuzla under U.N. protection say that each of them had to pay 100 German marks to Oric in order to leave Srebrenica.
Here another western article about Srebrenicas Muslim heroes before the Serbian army came:
"I met him in January, 1994, in his own home in Serb- surrounded Srebrenica. On a cold and snowy night, I sat in his living room watching a shocking video version of what might have been called 'Nasir Oric's Greatest Hits.'. 'We ambushed them,' he said when a number of dead Serbs appeared on the screen. The next sequence of dead bodies had been done in by explosives: 'We launched those guys to the moon,' Oric boasted. When the footage of a bullet-marked ghost town appeared without any visible bodies, Oric hastened to announce: 'We killed 114 Serbs there.'"
Toronto Star, July 16, 1995
But keep on ignoring all this.
Karadjordje
The Muslim civilians would likely include men right? It doesn't say it was only women and children who were allowed to leave if they paid. The details on those missing from Srebrenica show some were last seen around Srebrenica a year or more it was taken over, so probably many had left Srebrenica and weren't even there in July 1995. The civilians who bribed their way out to get to Tuzla could have then traveled elsewhere in Bosnia or left it altogether.
Sorry, I forgot to post the source:
http://www.hri.org/news/balkans/yds/95-11-23.yds.html (<- Click)
Karadjordje
You never accused antisemitic war criminal and fascist revisionist Franjo Tudjman or war criminal Fundamentalist Islamist Bosnian leader Alija Izetbegovic.
You don't believe me - you have to because this are facts! Watch the Croatian "Goebbles-movies":
Karadjordje
GREAT JOB!!
Now, you have educated a whole group of freepers about EXACTLY what went on in the Balkans.
I am more convinced than ever that Croats ONLY can define themselves by their hatred of the Orthodox Serbs.
The Croats have no decent history... no heroes from WWII and no future as a country because the western countries have their economy by the short hairs!! Croatia is not a country it is an "economic opportunity" for western companies to exploit. Why am I not surprised?
Alija Izetbegovic
The following are excerpts from the book "The Islamic Declaration" ("Islamska deklaracija"), written by Mr. Alija Izetbegovic, current President of Bosnia-Herzegovina. The book was reprinted by "BOSNA", Sarajevo, 1990, 127 pages.
"... Do we want the Muslim nations to cease moving in circles, to stop being dependent, backward and poverty-stricken;
do we want them to once again with a sure step climb the road of dignity and enlightment and to become masters of their own fate;
do we want the springs of courage, genius and virtue to come forth strongly once again;
then we must show the way which leads to that objective:
The implementation of Islam in all fields of individuals' personal lives, in family and in society, by renewal of the Islamic religious thought and creating a uniform Muslim community from Morocco to Indonesia. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 3
"... A nation, and an individual, who has accepted Islam is incapable of living and dying for another ideal after that fact. It is unthinkable for a Muslim to sacrifice himself for any tzar or ruler, no matter what his name may be, or for the glory of any nation, party or some such, because acting on the strongest Muslim instinct he recognizes in this a certain type of godlessness and idolatry. A Muslim can die only with the name of Allah on his lips and for the glory of Islam, or he may run away from the battlefield. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 4
"... Muslim nations will never accept anything that is explicitly against Islam, because Islam here is not merely a faith and the law, Islam has become love and compassion. He who rises against Islam will reap nothing but hate and resistance. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 17
"... In perspective, there is but one way out in sight: creation and gathering of a new intelligence which thinks and feels along Islamic lines. This intelligence would then raise the flag of the Islamic order and together with the Muslim masses embark into action to implement this order. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 18
"... The shortest definition of the Islamic order defines it as a unity of faith and law, upbringing and force, ideals and interests, spiritual community and state, free will and force. As a synthesis of these components, the Islamic order has two fundamental premises: an Islamic society and Islamic authority. The former is the essence, and the latter the form of an Islamic order. An Islamic society without Islamic power is incomplete and weak; Islamic power without an Islamic society is either a utopia or violence.
A Muslim generally does not exist as an individual. If he wishes to live and survive as a Muslim, he must create an environment, a community, an order. He must change the world or be changed himself. History knows of no true Islamic movement which was not at the same time a political movement as well. This is because Islam is a faith, but also a philosophy, a set of moral codes, an order of things, a style, an atmosphere - in a nutshell, an integral way of life. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 19
"... The first and foremost of such conclusions is surely the one on the incompatibility of Islam and non- Islamic systems. There can be no peace or coexistence between the "Islamic faith" and non- Islamic societies and political institutions. ... Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf. Therefore, there is no question of any laicistic principles, and the state should be an expression and should support the moral concepts of the religion. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 22
" Islam contains the principle of ummet, i.e. the tendency towards unification of all Muslims into a single community - a spiritual, cultural and political community. Islam is not a nationality, it is above nationalities. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 27
"... The upbringing of the nation, and especially the mass media - the press, TV and film - should be in the hands of people whose Islamic moral and intellectual authority is undisputed. ...
... Islamic renewal cannot be initiated without a religious, and cannot be successfully continued and concluded without a political revolution."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 32
"... Establishing of an Islamic order is thus shown as the ultimate act of democracy, because it means the implementation of the deepest desires of the Muslim nations and common man. One thing is certain: no matter what a part of the rich and the intelligence wants, the common man wants Islam and living in his Islamic community. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 33
"... In the struggle for an Islamic order all methods are permitted, except one - except crime. No-one has the right to smear the beautiful name of Islam and this struggle by uncontrolled and excessive use of violence. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 37
"... Islamic order may be implemented only in countries where Muslims represent the majority of the population. Without this majority, the Islamic order is reduced to authority only (because the other element is lacking - the Islamic society), and may turn into violence. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 37
"... the Islamic movement should and must start taking over the power as soon as it is morally and numerically strong enough to not only overthrow the existing non-Islamic, but also to build up a new Islamic authority. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 43
"... Pakistan was a general rehearsal of introducing Islamic order under modern conditions and on the present stage of development. ...
... The conclusions from the twenty-odd year of Pakistan's existence are clear enough. They are:
First, the struggle for Islamic order and a general reconstruction of the Muslim society can be successfully conducted only by experienced and seasoned individuals, aligned into a staunch and homogenous organization. This organization is no political party from the arsenal of the Western democracy; it is a movement based on Islamic ideology and with clear moral and ideological criteria of belonging;
Second, the struggle for an Islamic order today is a struggle to implement the essence of Islam, and this means that in practice one must ensure religious and moral upbringing of the people and provide for basic elements of social justice. At this time, forms are of secondary importance; and
Third, the functions of the Islamic republic are not to primarily declare equality of all men and brotherhood of all Muslims, but to struggle for some of these high moral principles in practice. The awakened Islam should in every community take into its own hands the flag for a more just social order and to clearly state that in struggling for Islam another war is being declared as well, the one against ignorance, injustice and poverty, a war without compromises and setbacks. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 45-46
"... In one of the thesis for an Islamic order today we have stated that it is a natural function of the Islamic order to gather all Muslims and Muslim communities throughout the world into one. Under present conditions, this desire means a struggle for creating a great Islamic federation from Morocco to Indonesia, from the tropical Africa to the Central Asia. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 46
"... Panislamism always came from the very heart of the Muslim peoples, nationalism was always imported stuff. ..."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 49
"... But, under the leadership of Zionists, started an action in Palestine which is not only inhumane and ruthless but also shortsighted and adventuresome. This politics takes in account only temporary ratio of power and forgets about overall ratio of power between Jews and Muslims in the world. This politics in Palestine is a provocation to all Muslims of the world. Jerusalem is not only a question of Palestinians, neither is it a question of Arabs only. It is a question of all the Muslim nations. TO KEEP JERUSALEM, THE JEWS WOULD HAVE TO DEFEAT ISLAM AND THE MUSLIMS, AND THAT - THANK GOD - IS OUTSIDE THEIR POWER."
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 53
"... We would like to distinguish between Jews and Zionists, but only if Jews themselves find strength to find the difference. We hope that the military victories, which they had against quarrelling Arab regimes, (not against Arabs or against Muslims) will not blur their minds. We hope that they will eliminate confrontation which they made by them- selves, so the new road is open to a life on the common ground of Palestine. If they, though, continue on the road of arrogance, which is more likely, then for the whole Islam movement, and FOR ALL MUSLIMS THERE IS BUT ONE SOLUTION: TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT, TO STRENGTHEN AND BROADEN IT, FROM DAY TO DAY, FROM YEAR TO YEAR, NO MATTER THE VICTIMS AND NO MATTER THE TIME it may last, until they are forced to RETURN EVERY INCH OF THE OCCUPIED LAND. EVERY NEGOTIATION AND EVERY COMPROMISE ON THIS FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE FOR OUR BROTHERS IN PALESTINE, WILL BE A TREASON WHICH MAY DESTROY THE VERY CORE OF THE MORAL SYSTEM OF OUR WORLD.
These are not new laws of our new Islam politics toward Christians and Jews, not new laws dictated by the new political situation. They are just the practical conclusions taken from the Islamic recognition of Christians and Jews which come right from the Qu'ran (Qu'ran, 29/45, 2/136, 5/47-49)
Izetbegovic, Alija, Islamska deklaracija, Sarajevo, 1990, p. 53-54.
Source: http://www.hvk.org/hvk/articles/0802/0.html.31990.VINCLUDEFIX (<- Click)
Here are some pictures of Alija Izetbegovic with his Jihad friends.
Watch and enjoy it:
Karadjordje
It's a nice Islamistic Fundamentalist and intolerant book written by your big hero Alija Izitbegovic in 1970.
Karadjordje
And, just think....all the muslims want to rule the world... imagine being a Christian Serb or Croat living in Bosnia and reading that garbage about having an islamic state in Bosnia. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TO MAKE THE CHRISTIANS BAND TOGETHER AND GO TO WAR AGAINST THE MUSLIMs and fight tooth and nail to prevent such a thing from happening.
Well, we all know what REALLY happened now don't we?
Do you remember when the western Media shoutet "The Serbs have occupied almost half of Bosnia!"
This statement is from a fascist. Even in Hitler's (In 1939 Hitler said: "I have three enemies, the Serbs, the Jews and the Communists.") nazi maps everyone can see that the Serbs lived in more then 50% of Bosnia for centuries.
Look at this maps:
Or look at this newer maps from the New York Times or from the National Geographic:
Now compare it with the Mudshahedin map:
Karadjordje
Maybe if the Serbs wouldn't had accepted to be protected by the traitorous and lying UN helmets in 1991/92 and instead had chosen to settle the scores once and for all with the resurected Nazi-allies at that time, we would see a Serbian state including the Krajina and most of Bosnia. The Croats could have had their part of Hercegovina as compensation and the rest of muslim bosnia if they wanted. Tudman said the bosnian muslims are croats anyways.
Nothing contradictory here. Tudman and Bobetko converted to Ustashluk in their old days.
The further West you went, the deeper the collaboration was.
Maybe that has something to do with the fact, that he further West you went, the more intense was the genocide perpetrated against serbs in that area.
Collaboration occurred on all sides.
Your attempt to equalize some minor serb collaboration in ares in which they were exterminated with the open and direct ideological support of Hitler by the Nazi-puppet called NDH fails miserably. Take a look at the map of Yugoslavia during the occupation and the states that were created by the third Reich and their borders. Serbia was decimated and the only state under military administration. That means, Serbia was ruled directly from Berlin. Zagreb on the other hand made the decision to exterminate it's serbian population within the borders of NDH on it's own.
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