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1 posted on 02/08/2003 11:09:26 AM PST by GeneD
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It's the usual NYTIMES and Saudi bllsht. No one knows a thing until Iraq is taken care of.
2 posted on 02/08/2003 11:12:23 AM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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Bookmarked for reding after we kill Saddam.
3 posted on 02/08/2003 11:12:54 AM PST by Cold Heat
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I'd rather see the headline U.S. PLANS TO END SAUDI PRESENCE.
4 posted on 02/08/2003 11:18:43 AM PST by Loyalist
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Maybe this means the U.S. State Department won't have to run covering operations for their embassy-staff slaves.
5 posted on 02/08/2003 11:18:53 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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>>>Saudi Arabia's leaders have made far-reaching decisions to prepare for an era of military disengagement from the United States...

Should this happen, I predict the US will be involved in a military conflict against the Saudi's, within 5-10 years!

6 posted on 02/08/2003 11:22:10 AM PST by Reagan Man
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>>Crown Prince Abdullah will ask President Bush to withdraw all American armed forces from the kingdom as soon as the campaign to disarm Iraq has concluded<<

Hey, Abdullah...

Who's there?

CANDYGRAM

8 posted on 02/08/2003 11:23:55 AM PST by Jim Noble
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Sounds good to me. Hopefully they'll succeed, on all counts..
9 posted on 02/08/2003 11:25:51 AM PST by AntiGuv ()
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"The senior prince added, "After the last shot is fired in Iraq, it will be a good time to say that we have won, and that we both agree there is no longer any need for American forces." He continued, "But the real politics of this is to win the hearts and minds of a majority of the people" in Saudi Arabia. "That is the way to really fight terrorism and the bad guys." "

But, but, but… I was told that our presence in Iraq "would destabilize the region!"

10 posted on 02/08/2003 11:26:43 AM PST by elfman2
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It'll be interesting to see where this goes. I dont mind us leaving that demonic land...we'll be in Iraq, Qatar and Kuwait so big deal. As far as the desire to wrest influence from the Wahillbillies...that's cool.

I dont mind this plan...as presented...at all.
11 posted on 02/08/2003 11:28:21 AM PST by VaBthang4
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This sounds like a plan we would have suggested to them. The truth is, after we finish with Iraq, there is no reason to have any troops in Saudi Arabia. We can dismantle the bases and move them to Iraq where we will have permanent bases for decades.

I hope this plan is implemented, although I can't imagine the clerics supporting it. It would end their religious tyranny.

12 posted on 02/08/2003 11:30:13 AM PST by Dog Gone
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"If he issues the decrees, Abdullah will have to contend with those religious authorities who will resist reforms and a change in the fundamentalist contract that has empowered a clergy who practice one of Islam's most conservative interpretations, based on the teachings of Sheik Muhammad bin Abd al-Wahhab and sometimes referred to as Wahhabism"

Therin lies the problem. The house of Saud has allowed extremely narrow minded, cruel, bloodthirsty clerics far too much power for far too long. I sincerely hope that Saudi DOES adopt a form of representative government for it's people, but the attempt to move into the 18th century may have come too late.

13 posted on 02/08/2003 11:30:15 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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"Isn't it better if I do this now before I have to do it later?"

Translation. Better that we put SOME form of democracy in place now (which we can control) than when the Americans are crawling ALL OVER Iraq instituting the same thing!

I heard a quote on conservative talk radio the other day to the effect that ALL effective diplomatic actions are preceeded by the absolute guarantee of military actions.

More and more each day, I support the taking of Iraq by our military forces!!!
20 posted on 02/08/2003 11:49:39 AM PST by HadEnough
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21 posted on 02/08/2003 11:55:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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I Iraq is defanged, who would be the Saudis natural enemy? I think the handwriting is on the wall for Iran as well. Their citizens are going to get increasingly restless with both Afghanistan and Iraqi citizens having their lots increased.

As self-determination comes to more individuals in the middle-east, the need for US troops wains. That's good, not bad.

If ever there was a need for the "Radio Free Europe" type of propaganda machine, there is one now for the middle-east. And I might add, perhaps we can get that force fed into the offices of the LAT, WP, NYT and other leftist rags. They don't seem to understand this nation's true intentions very well.

23 posted on 02/08/2003 11:57:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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Saudi officials said the departure of American soldiers would set the stage for an announcement that Saudis — but probably not women, at least initially — would begin electing representatives to provincial assemblies and then to a national assembly, Saudi officials said.

Democracy and equal rights for the Saudis and their women. Right! The mullahs are going to go along with this. Sure, especially without a U.S. military presence. Maybe it will be a good thing for the Saudis to experience some of their own terrorism.

The goal would be the gradual expansion, over six years, of democratic writ until a fully democratic national assembly emerged, a senior official said.

Yep, I can see it working, no problem. Well, I guess anything can happen.

5.56mm

24 posted on 02/08/2003 12:02:21 PM PST by M Kehoe
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Give Mohammedans the vote and they'll vote for revenge, murder, war and mayhem.

The Saudi regime is not repressive enough for the Saudi citizens.
27 posted on 02/08/2003 12:18:31 PM PST by Guillermo (Sic 'Em)
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Just a note to all to remind them that the NY Times is
Anti-American and Anti-Bush and has been trying to split the Saudi and Americans for sometime now.

Just who does the NY Times support in this War with Iraq -- it sure doesn't seem to be our side?
29 posted on 02/08/2003 12:27:29 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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Saudi officials call the first significant democratic reforms at home, and to rein in the conservative clergy

If they want to do this they better pull us closer than ever, because we are the only thing that can keep them from sleeping with the Shah of Iran.

30 posted on 02/08/2003 12:27:38 PM PST by and the horse you rode in on
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Ok. No Problem. We'll just have to move all of our bases to Iraq.
32 posted on 02/08/2003 12:34:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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Hope this is true. Get rid of Hussein and we do not need to be there. Move on towards another bug that needs squashing. Might be back later, in bugsquashing mode though.
33 posted on 02/08/2003 12:36:40 PM PST by L`enn
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