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China tests medium-range missile (with MIRVs to foil US defences)
Melbourne Herald Sun ^ | Feb 9, 2003 | AFP

Posted on 02/09/2003 8:52:19 AM PST by Aaron_A

CHINA has successfully test-fired a medium-range ballistic missile equipped with multiple warheads to confound missile defences being developed by the US, says a Japanese daily.

China launched the Dongeng-21 missile, believed to carry multiple reentry vehicle warheads, from a military base in north-eastern Shanxi Province in mid-December, Yomiuri reported at the weekend, quoting unnamed sources in Beijing. It was believed to the first successful test launch of a missile with multiple warheads for China, the report added.

The missile test was seen as a significant breakthrough as the technology was primarily targeted at breaking through missile defences being developed in the United States.

China last tested the Dongeng-21 missile, which is believed capable of delivering nuclear or conventional warheads up to a range of 1800 km in July last year.

A 1997 report issued by the US Air Force Air Intelligence Centre estimated 50 of the missiles had been deployed at bases around China, including those close to the North Korean and Vietnamese borders.

US officials also estimate China has deployed up to 400 ballistic missiles which could strike Taiwan within eight minutes.

Beijing has repeatedly threatened to invade Taiwan if it declares independence after their split in 1949 at the end of a civil war.


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1 posted on 02/09/2003 8:52:19 AM PST by Aaron_A
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To: Aaron_A
Oh well with MIRVs we have to move to "Destroy on Launch" and if that doesn't seem plausible due to logistics we may need preemtive strikes. Time to get the shovel out and start digging that bomb shelter in the back yard.
2 posted on 02/09/2003 8:59:14 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
I say yes, destroy on launch, but also we should put about 2,000 of our nukes (out of the 30K or however many we have) on missiles, out there, ready to launch. A little Mexican standoff will make them think twice.

According to the following this is not the first test.

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Taipei aware of Beijing's anti-TMD missile systems

Military sources said yesterday that defense officials are fully aware of mainland China's development of new missile systems to counter America's theater missile defense (TMD) system.

Japan's largest daily, the Yomiuri Shimbun, reported that the mainland successfully tested a new missile system with multiple warheads last December. In fact, the sources said, Beijing already test-fired a medium-range missile with multiple dumb warheads last July.

The sources said the People's Liberation Army test-fired the CSS-5 missile with multiple warheads — an upgraded version of its Dongfeng (DF) 21 missile — from a military base in southern China in early July last year. The missile cruised 1,300 miles (about 2,100 kilometers) and then landed at a missile firing range in western China.

Satellite photos showed that the missile contained six or seven dumb warheads, the sources said, adding this indicated that mainland China is developing missile systems with multiple warheads to counter U.S. anti-missile TMD defense system.

The Japanese daily reported that Beijing has been trying to develop a multiple-warhead missile system to counter the TMD missile shield network being developed by the United States.

Quoting diplomatic sources in Beijing, the paper further said Beijing will begin deploying DF-31 missiles with a target range of 8,000 kilometers this summer. The target range of DF-21 missiles is about 1,800 kilometers.

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From Beijing, that would put Japan in reach. There are closer launch platforms though from up in the northern parts of China...

One has to think what India and Russia will do though...

India recently announced a long range missile test that would put about 2/3 of all of China within range, and they are developing one that would put the whole thing in range...source

3 posted on 02/09/2003 9:27:54 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Jack Black
This is just one more reason to cut back, way back, on China "trade".
4 posted on 02/09/2003 9:32:03 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
We should never of trading with them at all, commies are the enemy! We should get all our companies out now!

CHINA IS THE ENEMY......
5 posted on 02/09/2003 9:33:51 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
I am with you. Say no to China "trade" which isn't "trade" at all.

Take them off of the list of suppliers.

We will have much better returns elsewhere anyway, and not nearly the problems.

6 posted on 02/09/2003 9:39:57 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Oh yippie, our good buddies China are developing weapons to penetrate our weapons defense system. You just have to love how all of our allies are so loyal in standing by us these days.
7 posted on 02/09/2003 9:57:24 AM PST by Blue Scourge (Real American...)
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To: TLBSHOW; maui_hawaii
<< CHINA IS THE ENEMY...... >>

Not the slightest doubt.

And pretty much owns, operates and controls Canada, California and Panama and every "DemocRAT" politician -- and staffs most of our most secret nuclear and other military-research labs and most of those connected to our universities.

Except Los Alamos.

Whose Half Trillion Dollars worth of research it was already sold by the traitor Lee Wen Ho -- so it doesn't need it any more.
8 posted on 02/09/2003 10:26:44 AM PST by Brian Allen (This above all -- to thine own self be true)
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To: Aaron_A
Oh my.

Look - we have plenty of our own MIRVs already targeted at China. Way more than they have targeted at us.

Regarding the trade issue - yeah, we are being way stupid, I think....but my understanding of what is happening is that the goal is to get them so sucked into being dependent on the American economy, and so convert the "hearts and minds" of the Chinese people, and so lead to the rise of a middle class in China that in another generation their leaders will be generally pro-American.

Will this strategy work? Beats me. 50 years ago Japan hated our guts, and the feeling was likewise. Yet very few see Japan as a military threat today. And Russia, while not our friend, is not the threat they were 20 years ago. So maybe it will work. I just think we are destroying our own middle class to make it happen.

9 posted on 02/09/2003 10:32:23 AM PST by dark_lord
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To: Brian Allen
and every "DemocRAT" politician

I would ammend that to 2/3 of the democrats and about half of the Senate Republicans.

10 posted on 02/09/2003 10:32:33 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: dark_lord
Look - we have plenty of our own MIRVs already targeted at China. Way more than they have targeted at us.

I think this MIRV thing is not that big of a deal in relation directly to the US. They have said over and over that NMD is not an absolute shield from any and everything. Russian nukes are MIRVed also. I think this MIRV was calculated in. For China it still might not work even if they do it though.

We would toast their ass if they tried to launch one on us.

NMD isn't aimed at disarming China, but rather from unforseen tiny third world freaks with nothing to lose. Proliferation is the big deal.

The biggest deal to the US is what China's neighbors will do. India and Russia might not be too happy. Japan need worry also. A regional problem is just that, regional.

Regarding the trade issue - yeah, we are being way stupid, I think....but my understanding of what is happening is that the goal is to get them so sucked into being dependent on the American economy, and so convert the "hearts and minds" of the Chinese people, and so lead to the rise of a middle class in China that in another generation their leaders will be generally pro-American.

The official term is "peaceful evolution"...

We certainly should not overextend ourselves into China. We need to not cut them off, but cut back and invest in some better things and places. We need a much better strategy.

11 posted on 02/09/2003 10:46:05 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Owned? The way the treasonous KKKli'tons [Mrs and Mr Hirrirry "Our man in Washington" KKKrinton] were picked up for a filmed floozy or two -- and a bowl of Charlie Trie's chow mien?
12 posted on 02/09/2003 10:50:10 AM PST by Brian Allen (This above all -- to thine own self be true)
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To: Brian Allen
You damn right. Every pro-China lobbyist targets the Senate. Big business owns more of the Senate than anyone else. GE and others are the acting agent for China. Anyone else is a by far minority shareholder.

If 2/3 of the electorate wanted to change the China trade policy, the Senate would give them 1/3 of an ear, then consult big corporations for the other 2/3 weight of the decision.

13 posted on 02/09/2003 10:56:36 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Brian Allen
Our China policy is an inside job.

A few see our interests being in and with China.

14 posted on 02/09/2003 10:58:25 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Aaron_A
But China is our friend that owns us and huge shipping ports on both of our shores...why would they want to, one up us?

< / sarcasm >

15 posted on 02/09/2003 11:02:13 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: dark_lord
"Look - we have plenty of our own MIRVs already targeted at China. Way more than they have targeted at us...."

If we exchange 290 million deaths with 290 million of theirs, who would come out ahead?

"Regarding the trade issue - yeah, we are being way stupid, I think....but my understanding of what is happening is that the goal is to get them so sucked into being dependent on the American economy, and so convert the "hearts and minds" of the Chinese people, and so lead to the rise of a middle class in China that in another generation their leaders will be generally pro-American."

It's not the Chinese people who are in charge or that need changing. It's the Communist regime and military that we are dealing with.

"Will this strategy work? Beats me. 50 years ago Japan hated our guts, and the feeling was likewise. Yet very few see Japan as a military threat today...."

It worked with Japan because the US occupied Japan for her own good. Totally irrelevant example.

Time to do this:




Never Again Speech
Boycott Made in China
The Laogai Research Foundation

16 posted on 02/09/2003 1:08:05 PM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: American Soldier; onedoug; Leisler; philetus; RLK; Quix; belmont_mark; SouthParkRepublican; ...
ChiCom Alert Ping!

FReemail me if you want off.
17 posted on 02/09/2003 1:09:10 PM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: HighRoadToChina
China tests medium-range missile (with MIRVs to foil US defences)

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Undoubtedly to be used for internal policing matters on the mainland. Operated with semiconductors made at facilities built by American companies.

18 posted on 02/09/2003 1:33:02 PM PST by RLK
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To: HighRoadToChina
Bump.
19 posted on 02/09/2003 2:37:13 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: maui_hawaii
I hate to destroy a great missile defense plan in it's infancy, but the Bush administration has implemented plans to destroy up to two thirds of our nuclear arsenal. We had about 6500 warheads. Plans are to go to a 2000 warhead capability.

Welcome to the real MAD defense policy.

20 posted on 02/09/2003 4:16:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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