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Bills targeting ID cards draw cries of racism
Arizona Daily Sun ^ | Feb. 7, 2003 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 02/10/2003 6:31:38 AM PST by madfly

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To: L.N. Smithee
Exactly!
21 posted on 02/10/2003 10:11:01 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: B4Ranch
Look you're not going to get an arguement there from me. But the fact is we spend 100s of billions of dollars each year on our own paricites through welfare handouts. We must simply phase out this subsidy. Family, friends, churches, I don't care who supports them if they won't themselves, but this freeloader carp needs to be placed on the ash heap of history, where it belonged from day one.
22 posted on 02/10/2003 10:14:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: madfly
Separately, by a 9-3 margin the House Judiciary Committee voted to mandate that people who show up at the polls must show either a picture identification with an address or two other forms of identification to cast a ballot. Rep. Linda Gray, R-Glendale, said HB 2345 is necessary to prevent voter fraud.

This will be called a Poll Tax and be struck down by the courts. The only way to avoid this would be for the state to issue ID's free of charge.

23 posted on 02/10/2003 10:22:34 AM PST by Station 51
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To: B4Ranch
But, hey, the RNC still calls asking for donations, so I guess I haven't comitted a mortal sin yet.

I tell the RNC that they'll get a donation from me when their leader takes action against illegal immigration.

24 posted on 02/10/2003 10:28:13 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: wgeorge2001
it is the largest single racist attack on the American Constitution in our whole history...

Gee, I always thought slavery was the largest single racist attack on the American Constitution.

25 posted on 02/10/2003 10:31:21 AM PST by Station 51
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To: janetgreen
I sometimes feel sorry for the youngsters on the phone because I truly give them and education about what is not being done and what the consequences will be for them and their kids. Once in a while they dispute me and I give them the latest right out of FR. I've had a couple of them say, "Well, I'll check into this deeper now that I have some facts"
26 posted on 02/10/2003 10:37:33 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Marine Inspector
How can one be racist against their own race?
27 posted on 02/10/2003 12:23:36 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: B4Ranch
I did the same thing, and did feel sorry for the caller, who had no clue about what was going on. After I had my rant, I apologized a bit, but told him that there are many conservatives who are turning away from GB and Republicans because of the fact that he has practically ignored the borders and the fact that he refuses to enforce (and change)the existing liberal immigration laws.
28 posted on 02/10/2003 12:25:35 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: DoughtyOne
Ron, it was Prop 187 which as you say was passed by approx. 60% of the people of California. However it was put on hold by Marianna Feltzer (sp?) for about 5 years, and then it was trash-canned by Gray Davis, who refused to submit it to the Supreme Court. As for 209, I believe it was the bill to have English only to be taught in schools,and that too passed, but somehow bilingual language is still being taught.

So much for our voting effectivness.
29 posted on 02/10/2003 3:03:19 PM PST by Jennikins
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To: Jennikins
Thanks for the comments re 209 and 187. Aren't you glad our leaders know what's best for us.
30 posted on 02/10/2003 3:21:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: Marine Inspector; DoughtyOne; B4Ranch
A little history:

http://quest.cjonline.com/stories/040900/gen_bcourts.shtml

The Topeika Capital Journal
Web posted Sunday, April 9, 2000

Bush courts California Hispanics, Gays </MCC HEAD>

The Associated Press </MCC BYLINE1>
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LOS ANGELES — George W. Bush is distancing himself from former Gov. Pete Wilson, who is among California's best-known Republicans but who remains a symbol of polarizing ethnic politics to Hispanics.

The de facto GOP presidential nominee is aggressively courting Hispanic votes, and used his latest pitch to repudiate Wilson's immigration policies. The message drew a sharp response from a Wilson spokesman, who said it resembled Democratic attempts to ``demonize'' the two-term California governor.

Whereas Wilson warned darkly in a TV ad that illegal immigrants ``keep coming,'' Bush said he could relate to Mexicans who cross the border in search of a better life.

``If you're a mother or dad, and you're worried about feeding your children, and you can't find work close to home, and you hear of opportunities somewhere else, and you're worth your salt, you're coming.''

The Texas governor added that he believed in tough enforcement of the nation's borders, and said the long-term solution to the illegal immigration issue was to help Mexico's economy through free trade.

Wilson led the campaign six years ago for Proposition 187, which sought to remove illegal immigrant children from public schools.

Bush drew sustained applause when he cast himself as a leader who ``will not use our children, the children of immigrants, as a political issue in America.'' He said last year he opposed the ``spirit'' of Proposition 187, but wouldn't say Friday whether or not he would fight against a similar measure this year, should it make the ballot.

``It's so important to have leadership that tears down barriers, leadership that offers a future hopeful for everybody, leaders that reject the politics of pitting one group of people against each other,'' the Texas governor said.

Asked whether he would actively campaign with Wilson, Bush said tersely, ``I accept support from anybody,'' and cut off any follow-up by calling on another questioner.

When a reporter asked whether he would consider Wilson, who won statewide election four times in California, as a running mate, Bush dismissed the question as a joke: ``Good one,'' he said.

Wilson battled against affirmative action, bilingual education and illegal immigration during his years as California governor, from 1991 to 1999. Those fights alienated many Hispanic voters, who now constitute nearly 15 percent of the electorate in the nation's largest state.

While he never mentioned Wilson by name, Bush's remarks about immigration were clearly aimed at mending fences with Hispanics.

Aides said his remarks on inclusion and immigration were his most forceful to date.

His entourage included his half-Mexican nephew, George P. Bush, who was direct in describing the candidate's situation in California.

Among Hispanic voters, ``our biggest challenge will be to separate my uncle from the rest of the Republican Party,'' he said. The 23-year-old nephew is the son of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

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http://www.evote.com/index.asp?Page=/news_section/2000-06/06202000Bush.asp
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June 20, 2000
Bush Campaign Holds Hope in Calif.

PALO ALTO, Calif., Jun 20, 2000 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- See George W. Bush shake hands with Hispanics in the streets of Santa Ana. Hear Bush describe himself as a "new kind of Republican" who rejects using immigration as a divisive issue. Watch Bush run hard to catch Al Gore in a state that leans heavily Democratic.

The Republican presidential candidate is going back to basics in his bid to win California, spending time walking the streets of Democratic strongholds and focusing on key groups, including the 13 percent of voters who are Hispanic.

Bush returned to the state Monday on a three-day swing focused on education. Like Gore, he will speak at the National Council of La Raza conference in San Diego next month.

Two of his major targets: Hispanics alienated by Republican-sponsored immigration laws and conservative voters in southern California.

"I want to energize these people to come back," Bush said aboard his campaign plane Monday. "If I do, I think I can win."

Bush's state chairman, Gerry Parsky, is pushing frequent visits, appeals to Hispanics and women and unifying Republicans as the only way to capture the nation's biggest electoral prize.

31 posted on 02/10/2003 3:33:03 PM PST by madfly
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To: All

JANE DEE HULL Governor of Arizona
GRAY DAVIS Governor of California
GARY JOHNSON Governor of New Mexico
GEORGE BUSH Governor of Texas

To follow the proceedings of this year's (2000) Border Governors Conference, visit the BGC web site at: www.bgc2000.com


32 posted on 02/10/2003 4:21:55 PM PST by madfly
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To: Ajnin
How can one be racist against their own race?

I ask that same question all the time, but never receive an answer.

33 posted on 02/10/2003 6:59:17 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Stoner
Our only options will be to vote for Bush ( can't let the Demonrat team score dont cha know ), or to vote for the best 3rd party available, write someone else in, or to stay home (ala Bush I). Either way, probabilities for the future of the U.S.A., and our children, look dim to me.

I'm going to write in Tancredo. That may change, but he's the guy right now.

34 posted on 02/10/2003 7:00:45 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: madfly
The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 103.34 states that banks must record a depositors SSN or Tax Identification Number (available to legal non-residents) when an account is opened. If the bank doesn't, they are in violation of Federal law.

Therefore, a Mexican Consular ID cannot be used to open a bank account, because if you are using it, you don't have either a SSN or a TIN
35 posted on 02/10/2003 7:37:02 PM PST by NickRails
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To: NickRails
Wells Fargo is in violation, but these open border NAFTA folks have been merging and moving banks around the Western Hemisphere for some time, binational commerce, global commerce, and doing plenty of lawyerin.
36 posted on 02/10/2003 8:35:13 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
But Steve Brittle, a Phoenix community activist, said he sees something more sinister. "The underlying thing here is racism," he said, noting that Graf also is sponsoring legislation to specifically permit the governor to mobilize the National Guard "to control the Southern border of this state."

I see that this idiot Brittle had nothing intelligent or pertinent to add to the discussion, so he did the only thing that he could think of and whipped out the ol' Race Card. I wish Brittle would do us all a favor and crawl back under his rock.

37 posted on 02/10/2003 8:42:16 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: RonF
People who can't pass a driver's test can (at least in Illinois, and I'd bet in other states as well) get a State ID card that resembles a license and gives you what you need to prove your identity to a government agency or private concern.

You are correct about this. In fact, I believe that a state ID card (different than a driver's license) is issued by each of the 50 states for a nominal fee, usually about $10-$12.

38 posted on 02/10/2003 8:52:04 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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I wish someone with photoshop skills would rip that Mexican Flag off Old Glory! Binational my ass. We are sovereign and loyal to one flag!
39 posted on 02/10/2003 9:11:48 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
I'm glad some Arizona people are doing something before their state becomes lost like California.
40 posted on 02/10/2003 9:23:58 PM PST by FITZ
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