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China ramps up missile capability
CNN ASIA | 2.11.03

Posted on 02/10/2003 9:45:08 AM PST by Enemy Of The State

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To: Enemy Of The State
Arm Japan. Share state of the art missile defense technology with 'em. Lend/lease 'em a couple of old Forrestal class carriers 'till they can start launching their own. Listen to China scream.
21 posted on 02/10/2003 1:02:54 PM PST by skeeter (Die dulci freure)
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To: spetznaz
You compared China's techology acquisition via voluntary contract, with Russia's acquisition via spying.

If anyone has a "point" here, giving technology away is vastly different than having it stolen, in this context, don't you think? It is precisely that, that an ally would sell technology to a foe, that is troubling. Hence your spying analogy means little, again, in this context.

And that is the "point."

With that said, perhaps the US did more to promote this Chinese problem than Israel. But people run to Israel's defense and even say "shoot me instead" when Israel made a policy decision that is harmful to the US. All I'm saying is "let's call a spade a spade."

22 posted on 02/10/2003 1:28:13 PM PST by mikhailovich
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To: mikhailovich
You compared China's techology acquisition via voluntary contract, with Russia's acquisition via spying. If anyone has a "point" here, giving technology away is vastly different than having it stolen, in this context, don't you think? It is precisely that, that an ally would sell technology to a foe, that is troubling. Hence your spying analogy means little, again, in this context.

Chill out Mikhail! What i was doing was trying to show how time gets cut out of military R&D when info is acquired from external sources. I was showing that just how the USSR managed to cut 1 year off its H-bomb development China managed to cut a decade off its nuclear warhead/delivery program. That was it.

I was not trying to compare 'voluntary contracts' with 'acquisitions ia spying!

And as for what i said about Israel what i meant was China getting Python-3 AAMs (Air to Air missiles) from Israel is not as bad as China getting ICBM tech from the US (which is why i said i would rather my enemy had great AAMs than even a basic ICBM design). I also said the same about the stuff China has got from Russia (eg the R-73 AAM and the SunBurn SSM). All that tech is still of military significance, but it is by far less than nuclear warhead miniturization and advanced guidance mechanisms.

I think you were reading ito something that was not there. I was not even thinking of comparing 'voluntary acquisitions' with 'spying;' and furthermore i was not 'running to Israel's defense.'

23 posted on 02/10/2003 1:37:35 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: spetznaz
Very well. My bad.
24 posted on 02/10/2003 2:15:36 PM PST by mikhailovich
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bttt
25 posted on 02/10/2003 6:41:04 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: spetznaz; DoughtyOne; mikhailovich; struwwelpeter; Steel Wolf; Alpha One; Sparta; Stavka2; ...
I wish the Chinese would just go ahead and name one of these missles after their Manchurian Candidate and be done with the charade.

They can designate it the Short Dong - C42.

26 posted on 02/11/2003 1:40:18 PM PST by PsyOp
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Arm Japan...

Better yet, give Taiwan whatever they ask for. Pershings, Patriots, Advanced cruise missles, A Trident or two (better than decomissioning them), and all those soon-to-be surplus M-1 tanks (they'd make a mincemeat out of chicom landing-craft and they make a hell of a road-block)...

27 posted on 02/11/2003 1:53:07 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
A lot of milequipment in Germany could be sent to Taiwan.
28 posted on 02/11/2003 2:33:14 PM PST by swarthyguy
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Yeah, but I'd rather see that equipment moved to Poland or to the Czech Republic. A little mud in the eyes of the Germans. We can move the state-side heavys to Taiwan and South Korea. Of course, if we send them to South Korea, they'll need bumper-stickers stating that they don't brake for communist sympathisers.
29 posted on 02/11/2003 4:05:31 PM PST by PsyOp
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That wouldn't work out too well, since North Korea already a missile after Clinton.

Reverence this: NK Missile Information


30 posted on 02/11/2003 4:32:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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Should read: "...already named a..."

Sorry about that.

31 posted on 02/11/2003 4:33:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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Yikes! Reverence should read: Reference
32 posted on 02/11/2003 4:34:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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No Dong...

LOL! I thought that one was named after Carter or Hillary!

33 posted on 02/11/2003 6:05:02 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
: )
34 posted on 02/11/2003 7:46:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: PsyOp

They can designate it the Short Dong - C42.

LOL!!!

35 posted on 02/11/2003 8:01:04 PM PST by Sparta (Statism is a mental illness)
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