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Dark Smallpox Winter
The Wall Street Journal | February 11, 2003

Posted on 02/11/2003 7:56:54 AM PST by Dave S

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I didnt really need to see this, this morning. Guess I better stock up on food and ammunition. Pretty bleak outlook and that was only phase I. Sounds like at the end of the war game it was time to nuke Mecca and Medinna, if not all three Holy Islamic cities. Hell through in Paris and Berlin too.
1 posted on 02/11/2003 7:56:54 AM PST by Dave S
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I let my "war room" supplies get depleted.
I have enough water for maybe two or three days.

DH and I are headed for the wharehouse store tonight to restock.
2 posted on 02/11/2003 7:59:21 AM PST by SarahW
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Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

We got lax after y2k dried up and blew away, but in the last few months we've been making a concerted effort to refill the larder. Water, heat and ammunition aren't a problem around here...

3 posted on 02/11/2003 8:03:39 AM PST by BallandPowder
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We are getting ready also. Part of me feels like I'm a tin foil hat wearer but the other part wants to be prepared. I'm trying to decide on the best food to stock for children. Baby hardest as it has to be somewhat mushy.
4 posted on 02/11/2003 8:03:39 AM PST by TXBubba
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To: SarahW

I have plenty of bottled water and dried food.

I have a 30.06 shotgun that's in a box but has been kept in an air conditioned environment for several years. I would assume I should take it to a gunsmith for a standard cleaning and once-over?

BTW, what's a good, reliable brand of 30.06 shell? Any comments?

Any comments in this regard will be most helpful.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

5 posted on 02/11/2003 8:03:52 AM PST by section9 (The girl in the picture is Major Motoko Kusanagi from "Ghost In the Shell". Any questions?)
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Try grinding regular people chow in a blender for the baby, or if too young for mush, breastmilk is free! It's also ideal for at least the 1st year of life. The powdered cereals by Gerber are good for 6mo+ old too. Mix 'em with breastmilk if available.
6 posted on 02/11/2003 8:08:28 AM PST by Vic3O3 (-47 below keeps the riffraff out!)
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If those health care workers will NOT get the vacc...why not let the healthy people in the population who will volunteer for it have it?
7 posted on 02/11/2003 8:11:09 AM PST by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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The gun folks are gonna have a field day with your post
8 posted on 02/11/2003 8:12:35 AM PST by ko_kyi
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Chris:

Your rifle ( 30.06 is a rifle calibre) needs Remington out of the box ammunition. Factory ammunition is best with a new weapon.

Dry fire it a couple of times to see if the action works well. If it makes a snapping sound, that means the firing pin is working and it works.

Cleaning it is a snap. Just oil the moving parts lightly, give it a light coat of oil, and you are good to go. No gunsmith needed.

9 posted on 02/11/2003 8:13:35 AM PST by judicial meanz
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I know, that's why I posted it.

I've got duct tape, bottled water, etc. Not enough freeze dried to suit my tastes. So I need advice from an armourer.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

10 posted on 02/11/2003 8:14:08 AM PST by section9 (The girl in the picture is Major Motoko Kusanagi from "Ghost In the Shell". Any questions?)
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I would suggest you learn how to clean your gun yourself. There are many cleaning kits out there by manufacturers such as Outers Hoppes and Rig. They have step by step instructions and the instructions that come with your rifle will show you how to clean it.

Reliable rifle ammunition for this caliber is very available. It is one of the most common hunting calibers and you can pick some up at Wal-Mart or any good sporting goods store. Brands of ammunition such as Remington, Winchester, Hoenady, CCI, PMC, and Sellier and Beliot will all work reliably in a good .30-06. I would strongly recommend you practice with your rifle before you rely upon it.

11 posted on 02/11/2003 8:19:13 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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I dont think you have a shotgun. If you do it will not shoot a 30.06 bullet.Buy a shotgun or rifle cleaning kit at china-mart and clean the durn thing. They cost about 12 bucks.A very few drops of 3 in one or gun oil in places where parts move and the gun or shoygun will be fine. Any brand name made in america should be fine as far as ammo.
12 posted on 02/11/2003 8:21:45 AM PST by winodog
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I would suggest at least learning the difference between a rifle and a shotgun. I have a 30-06 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun. Rifles come in various calibers, 30-06,30-30,308, etc. Shotguns come in gauges--410,28,20,16,12,10. As far as cleaning, you can get a cleaning kit for your rifle at Wallyworld and do it yourself. You can get good ammunition from a variety of manufacturers, Federal, Remington,Winchester, etc. Good luck.
13 posted on 02/11/2003 8:22:29 AM PST by holdmuhbeer
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Thanks. But I was thinking more what I would have to do if there was no electricity to use. My blender doesn't run on batteries. Any ideas for that scenario? Like what to have on hand if we can't get anything at the store for awhile? Baby is almost off formula but maybe I ought to get another can or two just to be safe.
14 posted on 02/11/2003 8:22:50 AM PST by TXBubba
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lol I am gonna shut up. What the hell is shoygun? I think the japs used it in the third century.
15 posted on 02/11/2003 8:24:25 AM PST by winodog
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We used sustacal and stuff like that for the kiddo when they were young on advice of the Doctor once. It worked great!

Maybe sustacal or something similar will help.
16 posted on 02/11/2003 8:25:53 AM PST by judicial meanz
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Unfortunately, this is an accurate scenario and the possibilities or probabilities of this type of threat are high.

I hear the shopping centers in Beverly Hills have no security.

17 posted on 02/11/2003 8:26:10 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Okay detailed advice is what you want detailed advice is what you will get. First, as a general survival rifle the .30-06 is an excellent choice it was the standard US Miltary round from 1906 to the 1950's. thus there is a whole lot of military surplus ammunition and reloads that are available nationwide and one might even say almost world wide. it is suitable for large North American game but some might prefer more power for Alaskan Brown bear.

I would also strongly recommend a sidearm. I can not prescibe any particular sidearm for you becuase I have not either taught you to shoot or seen you shoot. I can recommend that you purchase the largets caliber handgun you can comfortably shoot. A handgun is the tool for when you are working at something else and you need a firearm available. Sure a rifle is a better overall choice for longer range engagements but a handgun will be on your person when you have left the rifle to do something else that had to be done.

Freepmail me if you need personalized advice on this topic.

18 posted on 02/11/2003 8:26:44 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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The gun folks are gonna have a field day with your post

LOL

19 posted on 02/11/2003 8:27:06 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: winodog; harpseal

Sorry, fellas, I had a brain-fart.

It is a shotgun. Pump action.

Thanks for the advice on cleaning kits. I am wondering about ammunition that will be reliable, etc.

My reasoning for wondering this is as follows.

AQ has several means for striking the United States. They love the mass casualty stuff, of course. But if some of their people could actually be infiltrated here to be used as commandos, bin Laden's standing in the Islamic ummah would go way up.

I strongly believe that the fedayeen are among us. Thus, the 2nd Amendment is our friend.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

20 posted on 02/11/2003 8:27:24 AM PST by section9 (The girl in the picture is Major Motoko Kusanagi from "Ghost In the Shell". Any questions?)
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