Dark Smallpox Winter

The Wall Street Journal | February 11, 2003

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Buy yourself some nice Remington shells and you can't go wrong.

[Cicero5]

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Click on the link and then go to information.

http://www.usdpi.org/

[Hemingway's Ghost]

It is a shotgun. Pump action.

Then it can't be an aught six. What gauge? Standard? Magnum?

[dljordan]

Why? They'll just quarantine your town and do a house to house search for food and weapons. They'll confiscate the food to feed those who were to busy watching football to get prepared. They'll confiscate the weapons to make sure you can't oppose them at a future date. Of course "Officer Friendly" will "just be doing his job" and in his mind he'll be saving America. Good luck.

[section9]

Remington, eh? Sounds like a good name.

Well, gents. Time to go buy some goodies.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Petronski]

If you have a 30.06 shotgun, I'd love to see it. You are usually very knowledgeable, so I can't tell if this is some kind of a joke. The designation 30.06 is a rifle caliber.

[Gritty]

I have a 30.06 shotgun that's in a box but has been kept in an air conditioned environment for several years.

Unless you're referring to some sort of over/under rifle/shotgun combination, I assume this is a either a shotgun or a rifle. In either case, the treatment is pretty much the same.

I would assume I should take it to a gunsmith for a standard cleaning and once-over?

Unless there is some heavy rust or deep corrosion, there is no reason you can't do the job pretty simply yourself.

You can buy a inexpensive cleaning kit in any gun shop or Wal-Mart, as well as the gun cleaner and oil. Ask any salesman for help. There is probably no need to completely disassemble the weapon unless it is in very bad condition and you can probably tell that by looking at it, trying the action and checking the barrel. Carefully clean the barrel and action of dust (after making sure it is unloaded, of course) and lightly oiling the barrel and working parts should do the trick nicely. Make sure you remove all obstructions from the barrel. Dry firing without ammunition in the chamber a few times while cycling the action will pretty much tell you if it is ready to fire. However, it would certainly be best to test fire a few actual rounds and you can also then check the accuracy of the sights.

BTW, what's a good, reliable brand of 30.06 shell?

Any brand you buy in the store is fine.

If it is a shotgun, #4 shot is good all around for small animals, such as rabbits and large birds. It can also be used for close in home defense. However, any of the "buckshot" calibres are better for defense, such as #1 and #00, as they will give a longer lethal range if that is a consideration. They will also kill larger game if necessary.

[blam]

One of the funniest threads ever on FR was one started by FReeper 'Dog Gone', I think it was titled something like, "You Know You Have A Y2K Problem When:"

[section9]

Just looked at the barrel. Stevens/Savage Model 67 Pump action, pump-action magazine loaded. 12 Guage. Uses 2&3/4 and 3 inch cartridges.

In sterling condition. DEFINITELY needs oiling and cleaning, however.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[judicial meanz]

I use .000 buck....works good. 9 .32 calibre balls in each shell.

[harpseal]

A pump action shotgun is an exellent all arround choice as a defense weapon. I personally agree about the commando terror tactics also being a very real threat. You did not state what specic gauge the shotgun is but I presumin 12 ga, 16 ga 20ga or maybe 28 ga. As a general rule the choice of shells will be governed by the type of target and range you are shooting.

Once more the three most common shotgun shell manufacturers are Remmington, Winchester, and Federal. All are prmium quality ammunition manufacturers.

For personal defense inside one's home bird shot prevents some overpenetration problems but as a general rule over ranges greater than 10 feet i would suggest buck shot. There are a number of opinions about what size shot (diameter of the balls of lead inside the shotgun shell) is optimum. I personally recommend alternating #00 buckshot with #4. I do not know the specifics about which pump action you have in its box but it should be very serviceable. Once more I heartily recommend a handgun as a companion to your shotgun. The handgun is there when the shotgun has been left for daily tasks that may have to be accomplished with a threat present

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Buy yourself some 3" #2s to do some serious damage and some 2.75 #7-9 for general bird shooting/hunting. It's always nice to have some deer slugs and buckshot, too.

[harpseal]

If it is in sterling condition then I would suggest a vist to any good sporting goods store and get a gun cleaning kit which will have lubricating oil in it. Remember a very very light coat of oil is what is needed. The technique is oil it and then wipe off the excess oil. Get a fleece end for the cleaning rod and run t through the barrel then oil lightly wipe off the excess and you will be fine.

One still has to sight the shotgun because even at 25 yards the pattern of shot is not wide enough so a general direction shot will stop whatever you are shooting but it does have many advantages as long as it is handy.

[Jim Noble]

>>No homeland defense plan will work without the cooperation of all Americans, especially its leading institutions. The unions and public-health officials resisting smallpox vaccination will have a lot to answer for if there is an attack and Americans remain unprepared<<

The government has sufficient authority to mandate this vaccination program, and if they think they don't, they should go to Congress to get it.

Instead, they have created a decentralized, voluntary program with an overlay of highly overblown risk disclosure in the name of "voluntary informed consent".

My impression is that the officials involved want broader smallpox vaccine coverage but they are terrified of blame should anyone be harmed.

This is no way to run a railroad.

[section9]

Did I not? 12 Guage. Thanks for the advice on ammos. Hajj Week is almost over guys! Time to clean and oil....

There are two ways American civilians would act using rifles and shotguns.

1. For home self defense (this is where your birdshot comes in...).

2. In groups, operating as Militia or Home Guard, under the command of a duly constituted Law Officer (see Jeff Head's excellent Dragon's Fury series for an illustration using a hypothetical Chinese attack on the Klamath Falls Lock and Dam system as an illustration: I think that is what we are looking forward to). That, I suppose, it where your buckshot comes in.

And yes, I know, having an M1A Garand in one's hand is far preferable to having a shotgun in a tactical assault environment.

Oh, yes, and I do know one thing about the safe operation of a firearm: aim just below the turban and squeeze very slowly.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Damocles]

For those interested in the "Dark WInter" scenario, here's a link to the actual study. The slide show is particularly interesting (disturbing).

http://www.hopkins-biodefense.org/darkwinter.html

[Dog Gone]

That was a hoot. I can't find it now, so it may have disappeared into the cosmos.

[johnny7]

2nd Ammendment won't help much in quarantined areas. Cops, FEMA and ATF will kill you like a dog if you try to get out.

Worst case scenario would be roving mobs of looters... armed. There will be no LE available to help you out.

Save the last bullet for yourself... section9.

[Redcloak]

I hear the shopping centers in Beverly Hills have no security.

That's cuz Winona Ryder's locked up.

[section9]

I've always believed that we're made of sterner stuff than that.

Don't underestimate people with common sense. That's what the 2A is all about. Quarantined areas will exist, period. That's just a fact of life.

My scenario posits a fifth column of trained AQ saboteours and terrorists. Remember, AQ has had years to prepare.

It is advisable to plan as if LEO is paralyzed for a short period of time, or is somehow preoccupied. How and ever, 'tis best to stay safe.

Be Seeing You,

Chris