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A back door to Kyoto?
Washington Times ^ | Thursday, February 13, 2003

Posted on 02/12/2003 10:57:39 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:00:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Why do bad ideas linger with such persistence in the halls of Congress? This question came to mind when Sens. John McCain, Arizona Republican, and Joseph Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, recently introduced legislation to reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions to prevent global warming.


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Thursday, February 13, 2003

Quote of the Day by Blood of Tyrants

1 posted on 02/12/2003 10:57:39 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: madfly
fyi
2 posted on 02/13/2003 5:45:58 AM PST by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: backhoe; madfly; Stand Watch Listen; brityank; OldFriend; Grampa Dave; editor-surveyor; ...
bttt
3 posted on 02/17/2003 2:41:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe (God Armeth The Patriot)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It seems that even flattened tires don't stop the machine.
4 posted on 02/17/2003 2:45:14 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Keep this in mind...
Bush offers plan for voluntary measures to limit emissions
The proposal to reduce greenhouse gases was offered as an alternative to a 1997 international agreement negotiated in Kyoto, Japan. The pact commits industrial nations to roll back greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels.
It was signed by the Clinton administration, but never ratified by the Senate, and President Bush backed out of it last year. He said the treaty would have cost the U.S. economy $400 billion and 4.9 million jobs.

Snip...He said that under his 2003 budget proposal, the United States would spend more than any nation to address global warming: $4.5 billion. That would be a $700 million increase over current spending.
So now we have Kyoto "US style". It still carries out "the goals", but is uniquely the US's doing. No international aspects. (Bush did tell Blair, basically, that Kyoto would be implemented)
Keeps the "bipartisan peace", garners "middle ground support" and still , more or less, implements Kyoto.

The "voluntary" aspect of it seems to be changing though. If enacted into law there will be no more "voluntary" aspect.

5 posted on 02/17/2003 2:56:35 PM PST by philman_36
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To: JohnHuang2
Imagine how much methane producing BS we could reduce by voting these elitists out of office.
6 posted on 02/17/2003 2:58:21 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Tailgunner Joe
BTW...I found this comment interesting...
The proposal was immediately criticized by Democrats and environmental groups, who said it would do little to reduce the greenhouse gases believed to cause global warming.
So Lieberman/McCain is better? Will their bill, even if passed, also in reality do little to reduce the greenhouse gases believed to cause global warming?

Just believe...
More garbage on an already stinking pile of refuse IMO.

7 posted on 02/17/2003 3:02:21 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Paul C. Jesup
:-)!!
8 posted on 02/17/2003 3:49:22 PM PST by Terriergal (Going to war without the French is like going deer hunting without an accordion.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Lieberman and McCain have been working for the UN all of their lives.
9 posted on 02/17/2003 3:55:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (A Fine is a Tax for doing Wrong. A Tax is a Fine for doing Well.)
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To: B4Ranch
A good politician can't let Mother Nature have her way or admit that maybe the Creator had a more intelligent plan.
10 posted on 02/17/2003 4:47:36 PM PST by meenie
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; Libertarianize the GOP; Carry_Okie; 2sheep; 4Freedom; Alamo-Girl; AnnaZ; Mercuria; ...
ping
11 posted on 02/17/2003 5:28:44 PM PST by madfly
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To: Free the USA
thanks
12 posted on 02/17/2003 5:29:10 PM PST by madfly
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Stop the attacks on our Freedoms by the wacko, extreme left-wing, lunatic fringe, dirt worshipping Green Jihadist, enviro-nazis terrorist's and their toadies in the media!

Protect The Forest...Eradicate The Greenies!

Fighting Irresponsible Radical Environmentalism!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For!

Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!

13 posted on 02/17/2003 5:34:02 PM PST by blackie
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To: madfly
Thanks for the ping.
14 posted on 02/17/2003 6:01:39 PM PST by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: meenie
Heaven forbid such an idea!
15 posted on 02/17/2003 6:25:35 PM PST by B4Ranch (A Fine is a Tax for doing Wrong. A Tax is a Fine for doing Well.)
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To: JohnHuang2
screw the kyoto treaty
16 posted on 02/17/2003 6:32:02 PM PST by GailA (stop PAROLING killers Throw Away the Keys http://keasl5227.tripod.com/)
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To: JohnHuang2
One of the reasons why I believe that France and Germany are so 'upset' with the US's is that President Bush did not sign the Kyoto treaty. Europe and and some US businesses, i.e. ENRON, thought it was a done deal. Much money was to be made off of the US as well as implementing environmentalism even more so as our 'national religion'. This in addition to the UN being able to control production in the US and be put in a position to tax at will the people of the US. This assumption along with the EURO being the currency presently used for the purchase of oil out of Iraq, I feel, has much to with the position of France and Germany. Much is also to be learned about illegal arms sales here as well. But the rug was pulled out and we now see a movement to back door the Kyoto Treaty, for my money lets follow the EURO.
17 posted on 02/17/2003 6:52:41 PM PST by Jonathan E
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To: Tailgunner Joe; madfly
"Whatever the cause of the Earth's current warming trend, the McCain/Lieberman bill will not reduce the threat of global warming. It will, however, make a bad economic situation worse."

Excellent comment. Thanks for the ping.

18 posted on 02/17/2003 8:10:41 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Tailgunner Joe
bTTT!!!!!
19 posted on 02/18/2003 3:03:49 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: philman_36
N.G.O of the United Nations


20 posted on 02/18/2003 10:20:00 AM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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