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Silver as Money back in Circulation
Sierra Times ^

Posted on 02/13/2003 11:08:05 AM PST by BlackJack

A small company in the Ozarks is offering business the opportunity to bring Silver Money back into circulation, and has chosen NORFED’s Liberty Dollars for its vehicle. Ozark Monetary Services of Berryville, Arkansas, has created a program that ensures that any business that accepts Liberty Dollars cannot lose money for doing so… and it’s gaining popularity across the country, with some potentially heavy hitters looking it over closely.

OMS Spokesman David Cato confirms that the company has had discussions with a couple of nationally known marketing giants, but declined to offer specifics.

“What we’re doing is promoting the program to all businesses, and it’s so simple that it’s basically a no-brainer,” says David. “Any business that signs up for the program agrees to accept Liberty Dollars, and return them to their customers in change.

This results in two things happening: first, the customer will in all likelihood return to the store to spend the money again, and other customers who hear about the new money will come to learn more and get some for themselves. For each Liberty Dollar given out in change, the merchant retains a dollar in Federal Reserve money, what we’re all used to.”

Asked about the possibility of merchants being overwhelmed by Liberty Dollars, which can be traded with customers, but can’t be deposited to most banks or used to pay government debts, David explained, “That’s what the OMS Program is all about; anytime they get too many to keep in local circulation, OMS will buy their Liberty Dollars back from them at full face value.”

The community benefits, as well, since OMS and others who promote the Liberty Dollar will occasionally offer the local public the opportunity to exchange their regular money for Liberty Dollars at a discount, gaining as much as ten percent in spendable value on the amount they choose to exchange!

Christmas and other holidays, as well as graduation time, are likely candidates for the special exchanges. The result is an increase in sales, and thereby an increase in profits, for those businesses who participate in the program, and there are even ways for merchants to purchase them at discount in order to make even more money while making change.

Liberty Dollars are paper “Silver Certificates” which are backed by silver, and there’s even a solid silver ten-dollar “Silver Liberty” piece. Merchants subscribing to the program can accept either the Silver Liberty, or the Liberty Dollar Silver Certificate, which is similar to the “bills” we’re accustomed to and more easily carried around. Either way, customers are almost certain to return to where they got the new money when they need something that merchant sells, so customer loyalty is a direct result of the program.

As for cost, there isn’t any. Merchants can sign up without any cost, and enjoy all of the benefits and guarantees, which are made in writing.

“This isn’t about making money,” says David, “although that’s one benefit of it, and the merchants who participate will see some pretty impressive increases in their sales and profits. What it’s really about is getting real value back into the hands of the American People, and making that value an exchangeable commodity in today’s marketplace.”

Interested businesses can contact OMS at 877-561-7263, or by email at:

alfii@cox-internet.com. OMS is a spin-off and partner of ALFII.com, the online financial-privacy club that offers alternatives to conventional banking, even down to an anonymous MasterCard and a way to replace your existing checking account.


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To: Chewbacca
Good info....talking about ratios, I can remember when gold sold around $35.00 and ounce back in the 70's (?) so if gold is now in the vicinity of $350/oz could we say the FRN's have been devalued to around 1/10th of their value from 25-30 years ago? When we look at the exhorbitant amount of inflation from then to now it kinda makes sense doesn't it?
41 posted on 02/13/2003 3:52:31 PM PST by american spirit
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To: mvpel
I'm holding a $10 NORFED Silver Liberty in my hand right now, and it's one troy ounce of .999 fine silver.

Well, Spot Silver (Bid) is at $4.52 as I post.

So you still just have a promotional token whose bullion value is less than half of face value.

42 posted on 02/13/2003 4:01:45 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: BlackJack
Norfed.org bump !
43 posted on 02/13/2003 4:04:28 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: Willie Green
Its a solid silver coin. Did you read the article?
44 posted on 02/13/2003 5:19:06 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: mvpel
Thanks for helping out. Some people post before they read.
45 posted on 02/13/2003 5:20:56 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack
Some people post before they read.

Did you get to #42 yet?

46 posted on 02/13/2003 5:24:27 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Whats the spot price right now of paper?

47 posted on 02/13/2003 5:35:32 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack
The spot price of paper is nil. What people need to understand (either before or after they loose their life-savings by speculating in the almighty dollar) is that paper, quite literally, grows on trees. Metals, on the other hand, require actual labor to produce.
48 posted on 02/13/2003 5:56:33 PM PST by silver_patriot2000
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To: Willie Green
What is the value of a $100 paper fed note?
What is the difference between that and a $50 fed note?

They are the same size piece of paper. They just changed the number printed on them.

Why can't the Treasury just make a couple $1,000,000,000,000 notes and pay the US deficit off?

49 posted on 02/13/2003 6:14:50 PM PST by Chewbacca
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To: Willie Green
The "bullion" value of a Sacagawea dollar coin is 1.2 cents, so is that a promotional token whose bullion value is less than 2% of its face value?

It's not the intrinsic value of the silver that is the main issue here, it's usefulness as currency.

If the intrinsic value of a given commodity is higher than its face value, then it is not useful as circulating currency. This is why the face value of the Silver Liberty is $10.00, instead of a daily-fluctuating value that happened to be $4.52 earlier today, and why you don't get $1 Silver Eagles in change at McDonald's.

That's why the US Mint switched from pure copper to copper-plated zinc for the penny. It was getting too close to the point where you could change a dollar for 100 pennies, then melt them down and sell the resulting slug of copper for $1.20.

And a consistent fixed value also reduces the transaction friction making it easier for silver to circulate in concert with Federal Reserve Notes. The vendor can simply enter $10.00 in their register, rather than having to go look up the current market price of a 5,000 ounce bar of silver in New York, which is what the spot price represents.

Alder Gold, which has the best prices online I've seen for metals, has $5.35 an ounce for a 100-ounce ingot.

And at least the vendor is getting $5.00 in intrinsic value in the transaction, which has the potential to increase in value over time, as opposed to $10 worth of monetized government debt as with a Federal Reserve Note, on which we owe interest to the Federal Reserve Bank that issued it.

50 posted on 02/13/2003 6:17:43 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Willie Green
"When I was a kid, I can remember that sometimes local merchant groups or Chambers of Commerce would issue tokens (wooden nickels or perhaps some kind of metal coin) that could be used as "money" among participating merchants. Basicly, it's a marketing gimmick."

In our little town, they use "Monty Bucks." These are checks on the bank, and spend just like money. They are used as prizes and premiums. When we first moved in, we got 25 of them.

51 posted on 02/13/2003 6:17:49 PM PST by redhead (If it ain't one darned-fool thing, it's two or three...)
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To: Willie Green
"When we first moved in, we got 25 of them."

Oops. We got 25 of them as a gift from the "Welcome Wagon."

52 posted on 02/13/2003 6:19:15 PM PST by redhead (If it ain't one darned-fool thing, it's two or three...)
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To: Willie Green
The basic point here is that if you want to buy and hold silver bullion as an investment, you should write a check to Alder Gold for $535 plus shipping and insurance. If you want to use silver as circulating currency, then you can use the Silver Liberty.
53 posted on 02/13/2003 6:20:26 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: BlackJack; silver_patriot2000; Chewbacca
Whats the spot price right now of paper?

If you're asking which I'd rather hide under the mattress for 30 years in case of emergency, paper or silver, the answer is silver of course.

But you gotta admit, these tokens are only worth their bullion value, NOT whatever denomination is stamped into their surface.

55 posted on 02/13/2003 6:23:39 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Chewbacca
Why can't the Treasury just make a couple $1,000,000,000,000 notes and pay the US deficit off?

Because a note is a promise to pay. You can't eliminate debt by issuing more debt.

56 posted on 02/13/2003 6:49:20 PM PST by mpoulin
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To: mvpel
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57 posted on 02/13/2003 6:58:29 PM PST by SCARED
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To: mpoulin
Exactly.

That's my point.

Fed Notes are borrowed into existance and a promise to pay. Basically a debt to the issuing bank.

Gold and silver have intrinsic value and hold their value as true money.

Paper money has no intrinsic value except people are forced to use it because of legal tender laws.

Paper money cannot pay off a debt, otherwise the US deficit would be paid off.

Of course, if the US Treasury department issued greenbacks interest free we wouldn't have to owe a bank anything.
58 posted on 02/13/2003 7:19:51 PM PST by Chewbacca
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To: Willie Green
Willie, the coin is worth $10 when you shop at a participating retailer. The coin will buy something that costs $10.

IF-say- the federal guv collapsed because a nuke went off in Wash DC- I'd rather have a pocket full of silver coins than a pocket full of paper notes.

Its like a $10 bill made out of 1 ounce .999 silver instead of a paper note.
59 posted on 02/13/2003 7:49:27 PM PST by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack
If the federal government collapsed that badly...

You'd be FAR better off investing in copper-jacketed lead.
60 posted on 02/13/2003 7:51:41 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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