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Germany faces $2bn claim over Namibian genocide
The Sunday Times ^ | February 16, 2003 | Justin Sparks

Posted on 02/15/2003 3:39:52 PM PST by MadIvan

MORE than 80 years after his death, evidence gathered by a young British officer in southern Africa during the first world war is to be cited in a court case in which the German government will be accused of genocide in Namibia.

German troops provided a foretaste of horrors later perpetrated by the Nazis. The atrocities were uncovered by British troops when they invaded the colony after war broke out.

The German government faces demands for an official apology and $2 billion compensation in a case to be heard in a Washington court next month. Lawyers for the Herero people believe documents and affidavits collected by Major Thomas O’Reilly could be crucial.

Atrocities began in 1903, when Kaiser Wilhelm II sent an army of 10,000 men to quash an uprising by Nama and Herero tribesmen in what was then South West Africa. Lothar von Trotha, a general renowned for his brutality, issued an extermination order.

“Any Herero found within the German borders with or without a gun, with or without cattle, will be shot,” he announced.

The Germans poisoned watering holes and men, women and children were hanged, shot and bayoneted. Survivors were later sent to concentration camps on the coast or pushed back into the Kalahari desert, where they died of thirst. As many as 80% of the estimated 100,000 Herero were killed.

Prisoners were also used as human guinea pigs by army doctors, many of whom later worked for the Nazis; in one case 18 inmates were hanged so that their brains could be measured. Their heads were pickled and sent to Germany. Children were used in gruesome experiments by Eugen Fischer, who later taught Nazi doctors including Josef Mengele, the Auschwitz “angel of death”.

“We were a testing ground for the Holocaust,” said Kuaima Riruako, the Herero chief heading the lawsuit. “My father is over 90 and was lucky to have survived, but we all still bear the scars. The descendants of people who carried out these evil crimes still occupy our land and no German government has ever apologised.”

Whitehall initially backed O’Reilly’s attempts to expose the atrocities, then changed its mind, fearing the revelations could fuel anti-colonial movements in the empire. O’Reilly resigned in 1918 and died soon afterwards in Cape Town, probably a victim of that year’s influenza pandemic.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: africawatch; germany; namibia; reparations
Hmmm. Somehow I'm less inclined to help the Germans on this.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 02/15/2003 3:39:52 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: *AfricaWatch; NYC GOP Chick; Blue Scourge; PhiKapMom; carl in alaska; Cautor; GOP_Lady; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 02/15/2003 3:40:10 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Hey Germany, "Paybacks are a bitch."
3 posted on 02/15/2003 3:41:57 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MadIvan
While Germans are out protesting the USA, calling us the most evil regime in the history of the world...
4 posted on 02/15/2003 3:44:34 PM PST by Guillermo (Sic 'Em)
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To: Guillermo
Send the bill to the peace protesters. They won't mind paying it.
5 posted on 02/15/2003 3:46:15 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Kick France out of the UN NOW.)
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To: elhombrelibre
I´m still wondering about your jurisdiction. And you´re sure you won´t join ICC? I mean, you can sue the judges or the grand-grand-...sons of the judges for having taken freedom of your citizen ... or better: for having taken freedom of foreign citizen! ;-)
6 posted on 02/15/2003 4:01:06 PM PST by Michael81Dus (You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
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To: MadIvan
Das iss vas dey like about Saddam. He iss so hitlerish and kaiserish and germanish. But the Americans are so awful. Away, Germany. You are a nation of reprobates worthy of no further consideration. Sorry we saved your sorry pork packed butts from the russians. Doubt we'll be coming around in your behalf hereafter, you worthless sausage stuffers.
7 posted on 02/15/2003 4:10:17 PM PST by mathurine
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To: MadIvan
Hmmm. Somehow I'm less inclined to help the Germans on this.

Same here, but what about people like Je$$e Jacka$$ and the rest of the left-wing "civil rights" industry here in the US? Do they stand up for the largely voiceless and anonymous Namibians, or do they rush to help Germany, currently basking in worldwide media and Hollywood adoration for their anti-American and (especially) anti-Bush stance?

Actually, now that I see these words, I rwalize that the question has answered itself.

8 posted on 02/15/2003 4:51:55 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: CFC__VRWC
"rwalize" = "realize". Must...try...harder...to...proofread.
9 posted on 02/15/2003 4:54:04 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: MadIvan
couldn't we ask for reparations for our dead during WWll? It seems that we were the only ones paying. Johnny Cochran, How many minorities were killed in Germany by Germans? Take them to Court NOW!!!!!!!!!
10 posted on 02/15/2003 4:56:35 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: Michael81Dus
Michael, it would be unconstitutional. Our constitution was written to escape domination. We can not let our country be subject to other countries laws, including the UN.
Just in case you ask about an amendment it would take 2/3 rd to even take it up for consideration. After that each State would have to vote individually on any amendment issue. Quite a hard Task.
11 posted on 02/15/2003 5:00:10 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: MadIvan
The German government faces demands for an official apology and $2 billion compensation in a case to be heard in a Washington court next month. Lawyers for the Herero people

The German government, being sued by Africans, in the USA. Is their a logical reason this is being heard in a US Court?

Should this not go before the World Court?

Not to be picky here, but we are incurring court costs, and then possible enforcement of the claim, should they win.

12 posted on 02/15/2003 5:06:09 PM PST by Michael.SF.
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To: MadIvan
Maybe there's hope after all.

The family of Harry "Breaker" Morant and his fellow Bushveldt Carbineers who were tried for alleged "atrocities" by the British military during the Boer War are probably owed about a billion dollars or so in restitution.

13 posted on 02/15/2003 9:37:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: americanbychoice
You can sue all and everybody for the faults of the past. Are you sure you won´t sue the grand-grand-grand.....sons and daughters of Eve, because we all are not allowed to live in paradise??

14 posted on 02/16/2003 1:51:17 AM PST by Michael81Dus (You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
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To: Michael81Dus
That was to be tongue in cheek. (funny comment)
I don't believe in frivolous suits
15 posted on 02/16/2003 7:43:51 AM PST by americanbychoice
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