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HOME PRICES PLUMMETING
The Austin American Statesman | 01 February 2003 | Shonda Novak

Posted on 02/16/2003 11:23:08 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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This is sure happening in Austin and Houston. Anyone else have commentary on your area?
1 posted on 02/16/2003 11:23:08 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This means that Paul Begala can go back to Texas and find a bargain in housing. We'll miss him here.
2 posted on 02/16/2003 11:28:09 AM PST by billhilly (I don't know it all.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I wouldn't call it a depression. A better word might be sanity. Homes have become so over-priced in many markets, it's a miracle any of them sell.
3 posted on 02/16/2003 11:28:28 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Real Estate Bubbles in Boston, NYC?

Chicago, Feb. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Despite what U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and the real estate industry say, there's evidence that housing bubbles are still inflating across the country, especially in Boston, New York, Miami and Southern California.

Michael Youngblood, research director for GMAC-RFC Securities in Bethesda, Maryland, a wholly owned subsidiary of GMAC Financial Services and the largest short-term lender for mortgage bankers in the U.S., said in a soon-to-be-released study that ``the number of cities with bubble-prone markets doubled in 2002 and represent nearly 40 million people.''

Of the 55 markets Youngblood identified as bubble prone, he says his research shows 20 metropolitan areas are most likely to see market corrections, although he doesn't know when.

That means if you are considering buying in those markets, you may want to hold off. And if you have a reason to sell, now may be a good time.

Residential real estate has received billions in investor dollars because of the three-year slump in stocks, the threat of war in Iraq and other factors. More than half of 1,800 people polled by E*Trade Financial, the online service, said they ``find real estate investments more attractive than stocks.''

Yet real estate risk is a matter of the stability of your income and how you finance your properties. If you are highly leveraged -- meaning you have low-equity positions in your properties -- you are most at risk during property market corrections.

There are a number of steps you can take to protect yourself from bubbles. First, you need to determine if your market is at risk.

Most Dangerous Markets

A bubble is defined as a market that is moved by almost sheer speculation that ignores underlying fundamentals. In the case of real estate, Youngblood identified markets where double-digit housing price increases are well exceeding per capita personal income growth.

It's logical to see home-price increases where jobs are being created, the local economy is booming or there's a short supply of homes. Those fundamentals generally don't support the price increases in the markets Youngblood is studying.

For example, Youngblood cited Monmouth and Ocean Counties, New Jersey, where he said home prices rose an average 13.1 percent in the third quarter of last year. He suspects that those increases aren't sustainable since income growth in those areas only rose 1.9 percent in that period.

Youngblood is most concerned about the following markets:

-- In the Northeast, Boston; Monmouth-Ocean Counties, N.J.; New York City; Nassau-Suffolk counties, New York.

-- In the South, Fort Lauderdale and Miami.

-- In the West, Bremerton, Washington; in California, Oakland, Orange County, Riverside, Sacramento, Salinas, San Diego, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Santa Rosa, Stockton-Lodi and Vallejo.

All told, Youngblood found that for the year ending Sept. 30, 2002, home prices rose an average 6.3 percent in 175 metropolitan areas, compared with a 2.3 percent increase in personal income.

``Why are we seeing such gains in these markets?'' Youngblood asked. ``They're not supported by the fundamentals, which is the classic definition of a bubble. Gains in those markets are likely to be reversed. It will be painful.''

The Fundamentals

Double-digit gains in local markets by themselves don't mean there's a bubble ready to pop. It may not be like the Nasdaq in March of 2000.

Greenspan, for example, disputed this comparison in Congressional testimony last April, noting ``the turnover of home ownership is less than 10 percent annually -- scarcely tinder for speculative conflagration.''

The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, or OFHEO, the watchdog agency over government mortgage enterprises Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, is contradictory on the subject of bubbles.

OFHEO stated in a Feb. 4 report it had found ``no evidence of speculative house price bubbles on a regional or national basis,'' while also acknowledging ``there is evidence that house price appreciation in some local markets has recently exceeded the rates that can be explained by economic fundamentals.''

There is definite cause for concern if the economy heads into a double-dip recession, is bogged down by war concerns or unemployment rises in the hottest markets.

The key to real estate pricing is always local economic and housing conditions, so that should be your first point of reference.

Watching Your Local Market

All real estate is priced based on supply and demand, financing rates and the local economy.

Lawrence Yun, senior economist for the National Association of Realtors, a real estate trade association, said most of the highest-price-growth markets in Southern California, New York area and Southeast Florida are experiencing housing demands that exceed local supplies.

``The data is not surprising,'' Yun said. ``There are not enough homes being constructed in these markets to accommodate housing population growth. There may be a few markets where prices are a concern, but I can't pinpoint them.''

Local job growth is also a key local indicator for housing. Mark Stadtlander, a certified financial planner and President of the Foster Group, a money management firm in West Des Moines, Iowa, for example, said his area is fairly resilient due to local expansion in the insurance industry, which has increasingly relocated to Iowa from Hartford, Connecticut.

``We're the new insurance capital,'' Stadtlander said. ``Even though there's been some downsizing, it hasn't had a big effect.''

What You Can Do

For most homeowners who aren't planning to relocate, the best strategy is to stay put. There are a few caveats, though:

-- For those considering moving or a lifestyle change, eye selling your primary residence if it means reducing your overall housing costs. Stadtlander says smaller properties -- especially for empty nesters -- may have more appeal ``to allow you to downsize while mortgage rates are low.''

If your market is overheating, go slow on big improvements to your existing homes. You may be pricing yourself out of the market if your additions create a $500,000 home in a neighborhood of $400,000 homes.

-- Consider delaying purchases of additional properties in overpriced markets.

-- Increase your equity stake in properties you want to keep. That may mean increasing payments on principal and converting an adjustable-rate mortgage to a fixed one to hedge against a rise in interest rates. If you're planning to refinance, don't take equity out if you are in a hot market.

In times of economic turmoil, real estate is still a reasonable safe haven in most places. There may be no place like home, although you still need to keep an eye on your local market.

4 posted on 02/16/2003 11:28:54 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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NYC is off the real estate bubble highs, but not collapsing.

Rental prices are weakening as lots of new buildings, planned during the bubble, come on line.

5 posted on 02/16/2003 11:31:43 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Prices still sky-high here in the Boston area but at least they don't seem to be climbing anymore. If my own house was on the market today, I wouldn't be able to afford it. Most homes in my neighborhood are going for $400,000 even today. I paid $262,000 for mine five years ago and everybody said I got such a deal. It is assessed by the town for tax purposes at $360,000. Sure doesn't seem like such a deal however when the $1,200 mortgage comes due every month! My parents used to gripe about their mortgage. They paid $135 a month from 1969-1999!
6 posted on 02/16/2003 11:32:43 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Real Estate is a local thing. Nationally real estate has been rock solid and setting records, but there are areas like California that I would be concerned about.
7 posted on 02/16/2003 11:33:24 AM PST by Always Right
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Things have definitely slowed here in central Florida. In my subdivision, the builder is still selling lots and building homes and hasn't been able to increase prices in the last 8 months.
8 posted on 02/16/2003 11:35:37 AM PST by Mulder
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To: SamAdams76
I shudder to think how much you put down, Sam... :-)
9 posted on 02/16/2003 11:35:53 AM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Housing prices in my area increased by about 20% in the last year.
10 posted on 02/16/2003 11:39:09 AM PST by jackbill
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Yes. I sell RE in the SW suburbs of Chicago and just got off the phone with a stubborn client who thinks her house should have appreciated 3% in one year. She ignores the fact that buyers are nervous about the turbulent times we are living in. Consequently, she has turned down a good offer and will do so again.

I hear people in my office talking about people making conservative offers. Houses are staying on the market for longer than they did. It will be an interesting year.

11 posted on 02/16/2003 12:03:25 PM PST by Rollee
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Real estate prices in the U.S. have been going up, off and on, first in one place and then in another, ever since 1942. Local bubbles may appear, in Fairfield County, Silicon Valley, Vail, or such, but only inner city slums and the far northern prairies have seen any real drops. Presumably at some point there may be a country-wide correction, but it hasn't happened yet, and there's no telling if or when it might happen.
12 posted on 02/16/2003 12:06:55 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Rollee
One inner city terrorist attack will, I'd imagine, empty the inventory of houses/condos currently on the market in the suburbs - particularly in NY and DC.
13 posted on 02/16/2003 12:08:28 PM PST by caltrop
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To: SamAdams76
A simple comparison of sanity.

My father bought his old house for an amount roughly equal to his income in 1978. If I attempted to by that house today, at rouhgly the same age, but a higher relative income than he had, I'd have to pay twice MY income to live in a neighborhood which simply is not as nice today.

That is rampant inflation and it is probably not sustainable. It is becoming very difficult for ordinary people to buy houses in mnay areas.

14 posted on 02/16/2003 12:09:05 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: NativeNewYorker
(freepin Jew Boy!LOL!). I think the market is still pretty hot in lower New York State, a mortgage broker I know is swamped! Still, in the Westchester and Bergen County markets, Wall Street Millionaires are taking hits, losing jobs and not getting bonuses, that has to have an effect when big salaries go down the tubes. V's wife.
15 posted on 02/16/2003 12:09:34 PM PST by ventana
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Not happening in San Diego. My oldest son has to move out of the area to buy a house. :o(
16 posted on 02/16/2003 12:11:12 PM PST by It's me
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To: Cicero
I'm a native Californian. As soon as I retire I'm leaving. Better bad weather than this cesspool. Many people I know say the same thing.If many feel as I do this may cause a downward trend in prices. Those coming in will be living off of the few that remain-for a while-and the aliens can't afford the current prices.
17 posted on 02/16/2003 12:12:27 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
"It is becoming very difficult for ordinary people to buy houses in mnay areas."

Just wait till SS and Medicaid taxes explode. Most homes are going to be vacant but still out of reach for young working families. The boomers on the other hand will have paid off their mortgages and will be sitting pretty.

18 posted on 02/16/2003 12:13:27 PM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: RoughDobermann
A lot. I bought my original house for $92,500 and sold it six years later for $157,000. 100% of my profit went into the down payment for my second house and then some.
19 posted on 02/16/2003 12:13:47 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: RoughDobermann
Sheesh, me too. 1200/month for a house bought for 260k sounds mighty cheap to me here in Central NJ.
20 posted on 02/16/2003 12:13:51 PM PST by agrace
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