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The Austin American Statesman | 01 February 2003 | Shonda Novak

Posted on 02/16/2003 11:23:08 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: RoughDobermann
lol--I was thinking the same thing since our home cost about 100K less and we are paying the same mortgage(a little more actually;-) My mortgage would very well be about 200.00 a month if I had put down what I think SamA put down on his;-)
41 posted on 02/16/2003 12:28:37 PM PST by glory
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To: Rollee
Exactly!

My very own selfish reason to want to get this war on now.

A quick happy war and the warmth of springtime will get the markets going again.

Our local market is suffering from the unusually harsh winter too.

42 posted on 02/16/2003 12:28:54 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Always Right
Real Estate is a local thing.

BWahahahahahahahahaha !!!

Right , a local thing. The GSE's have nothing to do with right?

43 posted on 02/16/2003 12:31:19 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Spanish architecture goes for a premium. This little cutie in Beverly Hills can be yours for $1,250,000.


44 posted on 02/16/2003 12:34:19 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
In Fairbanks, Alaska it would be $120,000. Even that is kind of high.
45 posted on 02/16/2003 12:35:00 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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46 posted on 02/16/2003 12:35:57 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear.)
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To: LS
Why are you inside posting on FR. You're supposed to be outside shovelling.
47 posted on 02/16/2003 12:36:07 PM PST by KarlInOhio (France: The whore for Babylon)
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To: babaloo999; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
IOW, Austin used to be just a big college town that happened to be the state capital.
There was fairly affordable housing for college students, lower wage workers, etc.
Then it became Silicon Valley Central in the 80's, and by the time the 90's rolled
around housing prices were roughly as high as they would be
in Silicon Vall.
A "cookie cutter" 3-2-2 house that may go for 80K in Dallas would be roughly 150K in Austin. That's probably circa '97, but I'm obviously no expert--just an amateur historian.
That's still not as bad as Cali and the northeast US, but it's getting up there.
48 posted on 02/16/2003 12:38:40 PM PST by babaloo999
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To: Mulder
To the financial industry that packages this BS as Asset Backed instruments it could be devastating. Since the GSEs have taken this not only nationwide but worldwide as well the old saw that real estate is local is now nearly defunct. In the old days real estate bubbles were locally isolated and they still caused enormous damage (think savings and loan debacle) now that the GSEs make the S&Ls seem like sober Quaker bankers.
49 posted on 02/16/2003 12:40:38 PM PST by junta
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To: KantianBurke
I'm telling you, it was getting out of reach for us. We were lucky to buy right after we were married(96) and that equity helped us to get the house we have now(similar size, better neighborhood--accross the country). I dare say if we had been just starting out now, I think we could have bought a home, but I doubt that I would have been able to stay home someday(like I do now) with the mortgage we would have had.
We've decided to stay in our current house as well until the kids are out of school(our oldest will just start Kinder this fall so we are talking the long haul here) because of the pricing. Buying a home that is adequate space wise for us is just outpacing our income so we are settled here. I think we were lucky to get in to this area when we did. Most homes here are way beyond our budget, but we were fortunate to find an older home in a more established neighborhood that needed some modernizing so we got a deal for this area. We are hoping to modernize it a bit(mostly cosmetic) and make two add ons to bring it to the space we think we'll need to make it comfortable as our family grows(in age and size;-)
50 posted on 02/16/2003 12:40:59 PM PST by glory
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To: quebecois
The real estate market is the next great bubble to burst. A lot of folks who were depending on selling their houses in a few years to retire will be crying

gotta agree...We sold our primary residence last May (Los Angeles area), quit my job, and moved to our weekend place out here in the Coachella Valley. We simply could NOT pass up the red hot market this past year; we were going to wait until last fall, but I got goosey and we listed 6 months early. I have no regrets.

We basically "cashed out" of the economy, having had (for once in my life!) the foresight to have bought this second home 16 years ago, so we didn't have to put the proceeds of the L.A. home into just another overly-inflated house.

51 posted on 02/16/2003 12:41:04 PM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: babaloo999
You can't afford a million plus dollar home in Beverly Hills? Well, here is another "Spanish" near downtown Los Angeles in a so-so neighborhood. Think how much its appearance could be improved with some landscaping. You have to put up with a one car garage though. It lists for $339,000.


52 posted on 02/16/2003 12:42:38 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Good grief, you could buy that for about 175K in parts of central Arizona--and have more land to boot. Make that 200K and you'll have a pool area that's like a retreat. Good golly, that's outrageous!
53 posted on 02/16/2003 12:42:43 PM PST by glory
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To: BJungNan
This stupid buyer bought a 1350 sq ft house in Mission Viejo in 1987 for $145,000. It would now sell for about $400,000. I've seen prices fall before, and they probably will again. And just like before they will go even higher when they come back. In case you didn't know, they aren't making any more land out here and people keep flocking to the state, despite what the Kali haters here say.
54 posted on 02/16/2003 12:47:36 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Big Scary Monsters - Fannie Mae article
http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=702604

Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and The Role of OFHEO
http://www.ofheo.gov/docs/reports/sysrisk.pdf

Fannie, Freddie Regulator Releases Study, Resigns

Fannie Mae Enron?

Mortgage Buyer Fannie Mae's Fourth-Quarter Profit Hurt by Massive Derivative Losses

Derivative Mkts Register Concern Over JPM And Fannie Mae

THE MOUNTING CASE FOR PRIVATIZING FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC

'Fannie and Freddie Were Lenders': U.S. Real Estate Bubble Nears Its End

55 posted on 02/16/2003 12:48:24 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If the real estate prices don't undergo a correction soon you can bet they will as all the baby-boomers retire and head elsewhere. The point is to figure out where elsewhere is going to be.

I won't tell you guys sitting in mega-buck houses about the forty acres I bought for $5,000. Even if a bunch of terrorists got lost they wouldn't end up here.

56 posted on 02/16/2003 12:51:02 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: Torie
I can't tell much from the pic, but there's houses in my neighborhood that would have sold for that last fall.

I have no idea why anyone would pay that much but I hope to find someone nearly that dumb for myself.
57 posted on 02/16/2003 12:53:28 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Torie
You are cracking me up. These look like some of the homes they show on that Househunters. I knew they were pricey so it cracks me up everytime they talk about their "budget". I think, damn, that budget(actually less than that) would buy you this fortress(sorry don't know how to post pics) close to me(notice it includes 20 acres):

http://www.realtor.com/FindHome/HomeListing.asp?pgnum=1&frm=byzip&st=&typ=1&typ=2&typ=3&typ=4&typ=5&typ=6&pgsz=5&view=2&mnbed=0&mnbath=0&mnprice=700000&mxprice=1250000&js=off&gate=&poe=realtor&fid=so&mnsqft=&exft=&mls=xmls&zp=43147&zp=43105&sid=E91B9D541F5D48F9BF584BB3046FDAA4&snum=4&lnksrc=RSR_PROPPHOT

58 posted on 02/16/2003 12:54:26 PM PST by glory
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To: SamAdams76
Good for you!! I hope to be in that position within a few!!
59 posted on 02/16/2003 12:56:02 PM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: Torie
Oh my gosh--I saw hovels like that sell for about 50K in Phoenix, probably the same neighborhood quality--geez louise!
60 posted on 02/16/2003 12:56:52 PM PST by glory
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