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Coming Soon to Baghdad – The Preview of the E-Bomb
newsmax ^ | 2/17/03

Posted on 02/16/2003 9:37:48 PM PST by knak

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1 posted on 02/16/2003 9:37:48 PM PST by knak
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To: knak
Interesting. I never knew we tested Atomic Weapons in space.
2 posted on 02/16/2003 9:40:55 PM PST by Orion78
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To: knak

3 posted on 02/16/2003 9:46:01 PM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: knak
Can't really imagine anything to irritate a population more than blow up all of their television sets and force them to buy new ones after the war.
4 posted on 02/16/2003 9:47:28 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Orion78
http://www.osti.gov/historicalfilms/opentext/data/0800024.html

http://www.osti.gov/historicalfilms/opentext/data/0800063.html

Yes, we blew up many in space..
5 posted on 02/16/2003 9:49:36 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Orion78
http://www.osti.gov/historicalfilms/opentext/data/0800024.html

http://www.osti.gov/historicalfilms/opentext/data/0800063.html

Yes, we blew up many in space..
6 posted on 02/16/2003 9:49:36 PM PST by Monty22
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To: The Great Satan
Er... klata verato nicto? No that's not it, dang!
7 posted on 02/16/2003 9:51:14 PM PST by ffusco (Omni Gaul Delenda Est!)
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To: Monty22
How about a missile defense system based on the e-bomb, maybe a bunch of cheap expendable satellites like mines?
8 posted on 02/16/2003 9:52:32 PM PST by ffusco (Omni Gaul Delenda Est!)
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To: ffusco
I dunno.. Many of those old tests were to see feasibility of actual nuclear blasts against incoming warheads at high altitude.

The Soviets stocked up Moscow with many of them. I believe the USA had a site over Minot AFB or some other place with nuclear tipped ABM's as well.

I think a warhead would be fairly easy to shield from an e-bomb.
9 posted on 02/16/2003 9:55:15 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
Guess I'll keep my day job.LOL.
10 posted on 02/16/2003 9:56:41 PM PST by ffusco (Omni Gaul Delenda Est!)
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To: Monty22
Maybe we could get lucky and catch saddam in a bunker, with no fresh air because of the e-bomb, he would just suffocate, war over?
12 posted on 02/16/2003 9:59:06 PM PST by momofsixgirls
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To: knak
Is he going to set off a nuclear strike against North Korea, when they have not killed one person in this country, but it would devastate our entire infrastructure?

No, he won't. Because if it just makes it over the west coast and knocks out the computers and TV production studios of the Liberal Left Coast, then what have we to be but thankful????

13 posted on 02/16/2003 10:03:25 PM PST by sam_paine
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To: momofsixgirls
Heheh, if we could be so lucky.

All this talk lately of assymetric nuclear war (as opposed to full nuclear war with the USSR, which was avoided by the MAD policy) is beginning to scare me.

First off.. Lets say Iraq or North Korea nukes a US city. Even *if* we launched back, which is doubtful, it just wouldn't matter.

I don't think it will matter because they can damage us *far* more than we can them. They have very little to lose, we have so much.

Also, I think the most likely thing will be anywhere between 1-20 US cities just vaporized. No incoming ICBM's. Just planted bombs going off.

Nobody will ever know who did it. There is no defense against this. The bombs are probably already there, and if not, can easily be smuggled in through Mexico, Canada, or a boat.

I'm a bit pessimistic about the odds on this.
14 posted on 02/16/2003 10:03:27 PM PST by Monty22
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To: knak
Computers, and every bit of data on them, will be history.

NO!!!!! We don't want the history wiped out!!!

16 posted on 02/16/2003 10:09:18 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: Monty22
We have a lot more to lose than anyone else to this type of weapon.
17 posted on 02/16/2003 10:10:35 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: ekaneti
Thank you for the links. Send any more you have my way if you would.
18 posted on 02/16/2003 10:12:53 PM PST by Orion78
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To: ganeshpuri89
Cars of today are run by computers.If you had an old model with points it would probably not be affected.Same with old radios that used tubes.Radios today that use transistors would be fried.Our way of life would be destroyed if an EMP was detonated over the USA.
19 posted on 02/16/2003 10:13:11 PM PST by eastforker (What goes around,comes around.)
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To: ganeshpuri89
"Why would internal combustion engines be shut never to start again?"

They use semiconductors for the ignition. That's why mil vehicles use carburators and not fuel injection. No wires are going to melt though and surge protectors do work. Although they may themselves be fried.

20 posted on 02/16/2003 10:15:11 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Monty22; ekaneti
Post #18 was for you as well Monty.
21 posted on 02/16/2003 10:15:37 PM PST by Orion78
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To: sam_paine
knocks out the computers and TV production studios of the Liberal Left Coast, then what have we to be but thankful????

No FR to chat it up, however.

23 posted on 02/16/2003 10:19:23 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Monty22
I agree with you.

But we are in the minority--eviently even hereon.

only God can deal with such things, IMHO.
24 posted on 02/16/2003 10:21:43 PM PST by Quix (FREEPCARDS additions will be delayed until after birthday and Albuquerque trip)
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To: sam_paine
Because if it just makes it over the west coast and knocks out the computers and TV production studios of the Liberal Left Coast, then what have we to be but thankful????

You'll have to find something other than FreeRepublic to occupy your time, as well, for it would knock out Fresno. Is that enough to make you thankful?

25 posted on 02/16/2003 10:24:48 PM PST by Greybird (“We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire.” —Garet Garrett, 1952)
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To: knak
The Soviets now the Russians also had an EMP weapons program. The US has hardened their electronics to hostile EMP environments. So once again it appears the US has a technological advantage.

Let's hope the Russians do not have hardened systems that they have already provided or can provide to the Iraqi government.
27 posted on 02/16/2003 10:34:23 PM PST by Hostage
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To: ganeshpuri89
I'd like to see the B61 bomb on that list of weapons..
28 posted on 02/16/2003 10:35:21 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
You're on the right track. This is why the Bush Administration has decided that "we must go on the offensive" (as Rumsfeld says.) The only truly effective way to stop nuclear weapons from moving into America is to stop them at the source--by eliminating the regimes that would give them to terrorists or smuggle them into our cities in a covert operation. Once these weapons get out of the source nation there are a thousand ways they can enter our country and it's very difficult to stop their entry into America. So don't be surprised if we atually go after North Korea later this year after Iraq. This whole issue has been swept under the rug and ignored for years by a number of presidents: Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, and Clinton. So far our approach has been mainly: In God We Trust.
29 posted on 02/16/2003 10:41:46 PM PST by defenderSD
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To: knak
I hope Saddam is depending upon some electronic device such as a pacemaker or insulin pump when the e-bomb pops the weasel over Baghdad.
30 posted on 02/16/2003 10:44:20 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ffusco
Klaatu Barada Nikto
31 posted on 02/16/2003 10:46:05 PM PST by Samwise
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To: Samwise
Thanks. You never know.....
32 posted on 02/16/2003 10:48:30 PM PST by ffusco (Omni Gaul Delenda Est!)
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To: knak
This fantasy scenario assumes Iraq has no knowledge of Faraday shields and optical coupling of systems. I doubt that he is that naive. The e-bombs will certainly do some damage as most equipment is not made to withstand EMP. The critical command and control systems are usually protected. Much of the middle east is accustomed to living in "stone age" conditions. The average individual on the low end of the economic scale will hardly notice the e-bombs.
33 posted on 02/16/2003 10:52:42 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: The Great Satan

Rumsfeld to saddam: "Hey saddam! Read between the lines!"

35 posted on 02/16/2003 10:59:47 PM PST by fellowpatriot
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To: knak
The MAJ Scott W. Merkle in the article above is now a LTC and was, for a time, my roomy in college.
36 posted on 02/16/2003 11:00:30 PM PST by ChiefKujo
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To: knak; *miltech; *tech_index; Sparta; freedom9; martin_fierro; PatriotGames; Mathlete; fjsva; ...
Thanks for posting this, interesting article!

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

37 posted on 02/16/2003 11:03:54 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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To: knak
There is some interesting reading here ...
9-2. Introduction. Critical facilities are very vulnerable to HEMP damage or upset and, in most cases, these facilities have equipment that processes classified information that could be compromised. A single nuclear weapon detonated 300 kilometers above the United States can blanket the entire CONUS area with HEMP effects. HEMP effects are especially damaging to integrated circuits and other sensitive low-voltage/current electronic devices on which facilities rely. It is critical to national security that these facilities incorporate HEMP and TEMPEST protection measures to prevent compromise of information and disastrous damage and upset to the electronics equipment. Generally, there are two concepts to be considered as a methodology for HEMP and TEMPEST protection and a zoning plan which may be applied to either methodology as required ...

39 posted on 02/16/2003 11:16:03 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: knak
This scares the hell out of me.

Too many of us forget to what degree semiconductors have become a part of our lives.

There was a very stupid movie called "Ocean's Eleven" which I suffered through for biological reasons (she wanted to see it, I wanted to see her), where a device of this type was used on Las Vegas.

In the movie, of course, the lights went out -- then came back on about 30 seconds later.

That is absolutely not the case. After an EMP blast, nothing that depends on a chip would ever work again. The chips are fried. Kaput. Dead.

That means, no computers, no telephones, no cars, no streetlights, ad nauseum.

Hospital generators would not start, elevators would stop, aircraft in the air within range of the pulse would crash. Emergency services? Forget them. How would you coordinate them? Smoke signals?

And don't forget, damage would not be limited to the products in use. Every car in the showrooms and every computer in the box would turn into high priced junk -- instantly.

Civilization today has a HUGE Achilles' heel, and we better start thinking about it.
40 posted on 02/16/2003 11:18:50 PM PST by Ronin
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Suddenly there will be a deadly quiet as internal-combustion engines shut down never to be restarted. No Iraqis will suffer any harm – they will simply be thrust back in time to an era where electricity and the electronics it made possible were non-existent.

EXTEND THIS TO THE REALM OF ALL OF OUR ENEMIES.... Descend Arabia into the Dark Ages.

IF WE DON'T DO IT TO THEM, THEY WILL DO IT TO US!!!!

41 posted on 02/17/2003 12:12:43 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: cynwoody
It would be heck on the power grid.
42 posted on 02/17/2003 12:19:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (more dangerous than an OrangeNeck)
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To: Monty22
"I think a warhead would be fairly easy to shield from an e-bomb..."

The warhead would be easy to shield but its telemetry package would not be. If these e-bombs were actually proven to work in a battlefield situation we might be able to disable North Korea's entire arsenal using such weapons.
43 posted on 02/17/2003 12:21:22 AM PST by ggekko
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Hmmm..

Let us suppose for a moment this actually works (I strongly suspect it's a load of crap). The main people it will actually affect will be civilians. Imagine the anti-US propaganda field day CNN would have showing pictures of destroyed hospital equipment, pacemakers etc, no reticulated water due to the electronic destruction of pumping stations and so on..

The tanks with their diesel engines will be unaffected. How is it going to destroy field artilery, AK-47s, mortars etc?

It's far more likely to damage our equipment than theirs.

That's of course if it works. Which it doesn't.
45 posted on 02/17/2003 12:46:38 AM PST by Yaron
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To: enfield
Wouldn't an enfield be simpler and more fun?
46 posted on 02/17/2003 1:02:36 AM PST by Free Trapper
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To: enfield
I have a HERF gun built from old microwave oven parts and some 800V electrolytic capacitors that I hope to mount in my old '69 Chysler in the spring.
The idea is to nuke stereos playing loud Rap and/or the cars playing it.

I'll be interested in hearing how THAT turns out. <|:/~

48 posted on 02/17/2003 5:07:14 AM PST by martin_fierro (oh, did I say that out loud?)
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To: Monty22
You can say that again.
49 posted on 02/17/2003 5:19:50 AM PST by LiberationIT
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To: ganeshpuri89
HAARP is your recollection......a great book on the origins of HAARP is "Angels Don't Play This Haarp"
50 posted on 02/17/2003 5:26:14 AM PST by cactusSharp
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