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Testes gene may be what makes us human
News in Science ^ | Wednesday, 19 February  2003 | Bob Beale

Posted on 02/19/2003 12:21:30 PM PST by vannrox

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To: r9etb
And if it appeared simultaneously in several individuals, how did that happen?

An asteroid strike. A radioactive, mutation causing, asteroid strike. Or, maybe, Klingons.

41 posted on 02/19/2003 3:08:22 PM PST by templar
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To: templar
A radioactive, mutation causing, asteroid strike.

You meant to say: a radioactive, mutation causing, works exactly the same on everybody, asteroid strike.

42 posted on 02/19/2003 3:13:38 PM PST by r9etb
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To: unixfox
Well, this settles it. There is no God or higher being. We just simply evolved.

Hahaha. I don't know why they keep wanting to debate it. Doesn't settled mean settled?

43 posted on 02/19/2003 3:25:04 PM PST by Dataman
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Wake me up when they know what is going on.

Have a nice long sleep. Ever hear of Rip VanWinkle?

44 posted on 02/19/2003 3:26:25 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Dataman
Rip?

These manufactured stories have been the same for 20 years so I might as well go to sleep.
45 posted on 02/19/2003 3:34:57 PM PST by BeAllYouCanBe (Be All the government allows you to be!)
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To: f.Christian
Doesn't God love complete sentences?
46 posted on 02/19/2003 4:00:48 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Pharmboy
Oh the trees (( weeds -- woods -- words // ideology ))---

then the forest (( understanding // truth -- LIGHT )) !

Hi everyone . . .

I am f.Christian - - -

a falling down recovering evolutionist // liberal // globalist ==== now I hate the stuff // lies // NWO !

Not any more since . . . FR saved (( link )) - - - me !

(( lest we forget ))

47 posted on 02/19/2003 4:05:17 PM PST by f.Christian (( + God *IS* Truth -- love * RETRIBUTION* *logic* -- *SANITY* Awakening + ))
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To: f.Christian
I guess not...
48 posted on 02/19/2003 4:08:29 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Pharmboy
What kind of pharm -- lab are you running ? boy ? ?
49 posted on 02/19/2003 4:17:02 PM PST by f.Christian (( + God *IS* Truth -- love * RETRIBUTION* *logic* -- *SANITY* Awakening + ))
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To: f.Christian
Nice sentence. Only the legal, lifesaving kind.

Cheers,
PB

50 posted on 02/19/2003 4:57:40 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Pharmboy
Hi everyone . . .

I am f.Christian - - -

a falling down recovering evolutionist // liberal // globalist - - -

not any more since . . . FR saved me (( link ))=== now I hate the stuff // lies ! !

51 posted on 02/19/2003 5:05:06 PM PST by f.Christian (( + God *IS* Truth -- love * RETRIBUTION* *logic* -- *SANITY* Awakening + ))
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To: vannrox; scripter; Heartlander; Dataman; gore3000; f.Christian; Alamo-Girl
They found that it does not cause cancer in humans, but does act as an oncogene in mice. This makes it unique among oncogenes in being a normal human gene which can cause cancer in a species that lacks it.

Hmmmmm... I thought that certain people have "proved" given evidence (a just-so story) that if a gene is found in one bacteria, it functioned in a similar manner in another bacteria. That is how something is made reducibly complex.

52 posted on 02/19/2003 8:14:21 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: ClearCase_guy
I am confused. I thought that Homo Sapiens appeared about 50,000 to 100,000 years ago.

The fact is these scientists do not have the vaguest idea of when it appeared. All they know is that chimps and other monkeys nor anything they call 'primates' has it so they put the age back as far as they can. This assertion of over 20 million years also pushes back the man/chimp break back some ten million years farther which shows again that science keeps showing that man and monkey if at all related (as evolutionists would like us to believe) is a very, very, very far relation. It also gives them an excuse for spending another 150 years looking for the 'missing link' they never seem to find.

53 posted on 02/19/2003 8:31:52 PM PST by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
[This ping list is for the evolution

Yup, can't invite opponents of evolution to the discussion. Evolutionists are too lame to hold up their side of a debate.

54 posted on 02/19/2003 8:33:41 PM PST by gore3000
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Wake me up when they know what is going on.

Great point, the only definite thing in the article is that humans have a totally different gene which is expressed in the testes and which would kill other species if they have it. This seems to make humans quite unique if you ask me but evolutionists have to add tons of meaningless verbiage to try to confuse the scientifically ascertained facts.

55 posted on 02/19/2003 8:37:25 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Junior
After all, this is about a duplicated gene taking on a whole new role

You really need some reading comprehension. First of all this is not in any way a duplicated gene according to the article but two genes joined together. Of course they do not have the vaguest idea how this happened. It is all assumptions which would be true if evolution is ever proven to be true - and there is no such proof. That this joining would have killed our ancestors furthermore is proof that it could not have occurred without many other things happening at the same time which would have enabled the organism to survive this new combination. So no, it is no proof of evolution, but of intelligent design, of many things coming together to produce something totally new. Note also that this article is so lame that it does not even tell what this gene does. Note also that all the evo stuff is absolute unsubstantiated nonsense. The only known fact here is that this gene does not occur in any other species and that it would cause cancer on other species if they had it. Hardly a 'proof' of evolution.

56 posted on 02/19/2003 8:45:47 PM PST by gore3000 (If evos could think, they would not be evolutionists.)
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To: Piltdown_Woman
You didn't actually think they would seriously consider evidence...did you?

What evidence of evolution is there in this article? Evolution is about descent and the article explicitly states that no other species has this gene and if it did it would kill it. How can you call that evidence of evolution?

57 posted on 02/19/2003 8:47:54 PM PST by gore3000 (If evos could think, they would not be evolutionists.)
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To: whattajoke
I didn't think deserved its own thread,

You are right, it does not.

58 posted on 02/19/2003 8:50:29 PM PST by gore3000
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To: templar
Klingons, For Sure!

Doc

59 posted on 02/19/2003 8:51:52 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Ichneumon
the article has a lot of "may"s in it which clearly indicate there are a lot of unanswered issues and questions which will have to be researched.

But of course, this hack being an evolutionist instead of a scientist, goes around making high sounding pronouncements instead of working to learn the facts. This is another example of why evolution is not science. These hacks do no real research, they just go around looking for something, anything they can twist and turn to sound as evidence for evolution.

60 posted on 02/19/2003 8:53:49 PM PST by gore3000
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