"Former Boy Scout Leader Arrested — Homosexual Child Molestations Continue"

Traditional Values Coalition ^

[bribriagain]

"Stalemate.:

I think the only stalemate we have here is the person you sleep with.

[Yeti]

However, this article is basically a vehicle for anti-homosexual propaganda masquerading as concern for sexual abuse victims. Nice example of using tragedy for political gain.

Two words:

Matthew Sheppard

[Qwerty]

"That is shoving it in my face. What symbol does the hetro but on their car?"

I've seen plenty of stickers on cars that are heterosexual in nature. I'm very surprised you haven't. I don't consider stickers on cars as "shoving" anything into my face, so long as they are not obscene. Shall we outlaw stickers on cars? Is this your position?

"You're gay. Fine! Why not shut-up about it?

I didn't post this article. It's something that people talk about... look at you, talking about it right now. You actually came to this thread to talk about homosexuality.

"Besides, what gives you the right to co-op the colors of the rainbow? "

Is this really an issue? Anyway... rainbows can mean whatever you want. An artist chose rainbow for some banners or something at a pride march to symbolize diversity, it caught on. It is not preventing you from using rainbows elsewhere.

[Qwerty]

"I think the only stalemate we have here is the person you sleep with. "

Oh... flashback to 6th grade. I thought we'd at least be civil.

[Qwerty]

"That's where you're wrong. You're just too dense to realize it. "

No need to get huffy. You never put up any kind of reasoned argument, so I'm not sure what you think I'm supposed to realize.

[Qwerty]

"Two words: Matthew Sheppard "

So.. you don't think that should have made the news? And you think homosexuals are the ones who decide what news is aired?

[leadpenny]

How do you know that I came to this thread to talk about your sexual preference? Why were you so quick to answer the question at the beginning of the thread? You had the right to say you are a homosexual, but why didn't you say, "none of your business?"

When you and I apply for the same job, do you think it would be appropriate to say, "Oh, by the way, I'm a homosexual?"

If I were to put a rainbow sticker on my car it would have to say, "I'm not a homosexual, I just like rainbows."

Is this really an issue? Yes, you made it one.

[leadpenny]

I've seen plenty of stickers on cars that are heterosexual in nature.

Name 'em!

[Yeti]

Homosexuals engage in the EXACT SAME behavior that heterosexuals regularly engage in, except that they do it with members of the same sex.

A physical impossibility. It should give you pause to reflect on your own thinking in this matter. You can spell, you can add, you can think and speak.

How did it come to pass that a seemingly intelligent person like yourself could formulate, type and post a succinct statement that is so blatantly self-refuting without recognizing the obvious?

Could your perspective on this matter be corrupt?

Basically, children are molested when there is OPPORTUNITY.

True of everything. Specious when presented as specific to molestation.

Freeping only takes place when there is opportunity. Married couples only have sex when there is opportunity. People only get rich when there is opportunity. Rapes, murders, robberies, lunches, housework, oil change, billing. Everything people do is done when there is opportunity.

Maybe if we keep homosexuals away from children, there will be no opportunity for a public "misunderstanding" of their behavior.

[Qwerty]

"How do you know that I came to this thread to talk about your sexual preference?"

I didn't say you did. You came on to talk about homosexuality.

"Why were you so quick to answer the question at the beginning of the thread? You had the right to say you are a homosexual, but why didn't you say, "none of your business?""

Why would I deny it? Heterosexuality is declared constantly. You just don't notice. It came up, and I answered. It wasn't obscene, so what is the problem?

"When you and I apply for the same job, do you think it would be appropriate to say, "Oh, by the way, I'm a homosexual?""

No. Not at all. It's inappropriate to bring it up in a job interview. It would also be inappropriate to say "By the way, I'm a heterosexual." If you don't agree, try saying it during one.

"If I were to put a rainbow sticker on my car it would have to say, "I'm not a homosexual, I just like rainbows."

Well.. if you really WANT a rainbow sticker on your car, go ahead. I have to warn you, it DOES attract vandalism.

me: Is this really an issue? you: Yes, you made it one.

I didn't, personally.

Do you ever want to run up to cars with the fish stickers or Darwin stickers and tell them to stop shoving their religion/science down your throat and stealing fish as an icon? Because I don't.

[Just mythoughts]

Adults molesting children of either sex is an abomination, the death penalty should be the price.

Sounds like you have a bigger objection to "anti-homosexual propaganda masquerading as concern for sexual abuse victims".

This a "tragedy" not hardly, this is pure "EVIL".

Nice try with the "uppity blacks and Jews" comment, this is the liberal way of intimidation, code words for "HATE SPEECH".

You would have credibility if you were first in line demanding harsh punishment for those who abuse others, but that is not your biggest concern, this "propaganda" causes you more concern.

Why has this story not been "HEADLINE" news across the nation?

Whatever you do in your private life I could care less, however, there are some of us who have seen first hand the method of operations of perverted people. We won't be intimidated with the "HATE SPEECH" threat.

[Qwerty]

I've seen farfugnugen stickers in which male stick figures seem to be having sex with female stick figures. I've seen solicitations for head and all sorts of acts.. from female perspective aimed at men and vice versa.

I can't believe you've never seen some.

[Yeti]

(mattthew sheppard) ...So.. you don't think that should have made the news? And you think homosexuals are the ones who decide what news is aired?

I think it was "basically a vehicle for [homosexual] propaganda masquerading as concern for ['hate crime'] victims. Nice example of using tragedy for political gain."

[leadpenny]

Not at all. It's inappropriate to bring it up in a job interview.

Why? Why did you feel it appropriate to do it here? I've been around here a while and can't remember ever seeing someone with a need to express their sexual preference.

You came on to talk about homosexuality.

You're a mind-reader too. Wrong, but a mind-reader just the same.

Do you ever want to run up to cars with the fish stickers or Darwin stickers and tell them to stop shoving their religion/science down your throat and stealing fish as an icon?

What does all of that have to do with heterosexuality?

[Qwerty]

"A physical impossibility. It should give you pause to reflect on your own thinking in this matter. You can spell, you can add, you can think and speak. "

I won't go into this on the forum, but I can explain this very easily in mail if you would like. Again... homosexuals engage in NO ACTS that heterosexuals do not ALSO engage in.. the only difference being that their partner is of same gender.

"How did it come to pass that a seemingly intelligent person like yourself could formulate, type and post a succinct statement that is so blatantly self-refuting without recognizing the obvious?"

First of all, thanks for the compliment. ;-) The reason I could post what I did is that it is true.

"Could your perspective on this matter be corrupt?"

I don't think it is, no.

(snipping the "opportunity" bits)

It was NOT specious. Yes of course things take place when there is opportunity.. but you are ignoring my point about the opportunity that priests do NOT have. Priests do NOT have the opportunity to molest girls for the simple reason that most parents wouldn't leave their girls alone with an older male. You would see molestations of girls much more often by priests if they had access. This is why it seems to be a "homosexual" pedophilia problem... not because homosexuals are more likely to be predators, but because priests have altar boys and not altar girls.

"Maybe if we keep homosexuals away from children, there will be no opportunity for a public "misunderstanding" of their behavior."

That's one way of guaranteeing your children will not be molested by homosexuals. Keeping them away from heterosexuals will guarantee they not be molested by them, either. Statistically, you've got a much greater chance of running into the "heterosexual" variety. I suggest constant vigilance when your children are around adults, and eliminating situations in which they are alone with adults.

Thank you for a nice post. Civility has suffered of late. ;-)

[leadpenny]

I remember scrolling down the thread, not really paying attention before my first cup of coffee, and seeing JudyB1938's question and thinking, "No one would answer such a direct question."

JudyB1938, were you surprised when you got a "Yes?"

[TheRedSoxWinThePennant]

huh thats funny there is no mention of this in the ny times, boston globe, st pete times, or the la times are you sure this really happened because I cant believe these fine newspapers would choose to avoid a story this big?

[Qwerty]

First off, I was one of the first posters to say these people should be locked up for life. If you want to say "EVIL", that works fine for me too. I wasn't aware that this was a contest of who could find the best demeaning adjective.

I don't really care at all about "hate speech", so your comment really doesn't mean much to me there.

"You would have credibility if you were first in line demanding harsh punishment for those who abuse others, but that is not your biggest concern, this "propaganda" causes you more concern. "

If you scroll back, you will notice I WAS. I have no sympathy for child molesters.

"Why has this story not been "HEADLINE" news across the nation? "

It may make news in the locales in which these crimes have occurred, but I don't know for sure. Beyond that, there are too many cases of child molestations going on to make a national issue of each one, unfortunately.

"We won't be intimidated with the "HATE SPEECH" threat."

Please don't take this the wrong way, because I mean it sincerely: Good for you. However, I never made a "hate speech threat", so it doesn't apply in this situation.

Also, for the record, just what "method of operations of perverted people" have you seen? Also, what makes you think such operations would apply to all gay people, including me?

[Qwerty]

"I think it was "basically a vehicle for [homosexual] propaganda masquerading as concern for ['hate crime'] victims. Nice example of using tragedy for political gain.""

It was particularly gruesome, and therefore the press decided it would sell. I have no part in what the national press decides to air, and so I can't really answer your charge that it was homosexual propaganda. I will say that they did not try to tacitly accuse all heterosexuals of being potential perpetrators of similar acts, as this article has tacitly attempted to accuse all homosexuals (the males, at least) of being capable of pedophilia.

[Qwerty]

"Why? Why did you feel it appropriate to do it here? I've been around here a while and can't remember ever seeing someone with a need to express their sexual preference."

I was asked, and it related to the topic at hand. Think of it as a solicited "full disclosure"... irrelevant to logic, but possibly relevant to readers' opinions of my posts. Also.. you've never seen people talk about being married? It definitely implies sexual preference.

"You're a mind-reader too. Wrong, but a mind-reader just the same."

Well, when I'm wrong I'm wrong. Sorry.. I assumed that's why you came on for because that is all you've talked about. I shouldn't have assumed.

" What does all of that have to do with heterosexuality?"

It doesn't. It's taking your argument and running with it to its logical conclusion.