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HOLLYWOOD VS. AMERICA U.S. Citizens Attack Anti-War Celebrities
WorldNetDaily ^ | 02.27.03 | By Joe Kovacs

Posted on 02/27/2003 7:42:28 PM PST by fight_truth_decay

Fed up with opinions of TV, movie stars, ordinary people go on massive offensive.

Americans objecting to the anti-war rhetoric of Hollywood celebrities are no longer remaining silent, but are starting to fight back with their own grass-roots offensive.

They're on the attack flooding actors, talent agencies and anti-war groups with their own thoughts on the possibility of war with Iraq, and what they think of the public stances being taken by many entertainers.

Sheryl Crow: 'The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies' (photo: Hollywood.com)

"These [celebrities] are abusing their stature and they need to be informed that there is a lot of America who vehemently disagrees with them," says Los Angeles radio talk-show host John Kobylt. "They need to be put back in their place. They need to understand where they are in the great food chain of life."

Kobylt and his partner Ken Chiampou of KFI-AM are promoting a "Virtual March on Hollywood." It's a counter-measure to the "Virtual March on Washington" which took place yesterday with anti-war activists jamming phone and fax lines in the nation's capital to get their message across.

'Stop Celebrity Spokesholes'

On the John and Ken website, the hosts provide a series of links in their movement to "stop celebrity spokesholes." Phone and fax numbers, along with some e-mail addresses are listed for some of the leading activists opposing President Bush's policy on disarming Iraq.

"It's just the first time in their life they've been criticized," says Kobylt, "because they think anybody who supports a war against Iraq is some stupid, redneck half-wit who's got no teeth, no shoes, no brain. They don't consider that most of the people would rather have a peaceful world, that we're fighting this war or we're gonna fight this war because of the terrorist attack."

A caller from San Pedro, Calif., phoned in to read a portion of an e-mail he wrote to actor Mike Farrell, suggesting celebrities opposing the president volunteer to be human shields in Baghdad:

Since our military has already said we cannot guarantee the safety of those who have already gone over as human shields, when the bombing starts this remedy could have a double benefit. First, you will be able to put your money where your mouths are. Secondly, it's more than likely that you and your traitor conspirators will be erased from the planet. I call this the [epitome] of the term 'win-win.' Your insignificant group does not have the backing of the American people. We are not quick to go to war, we are a people of peace who time and time again have tried to help the impoverished of this world with food, finances, and when necessary, blood (you're welcome, France). ... What a shame that you did not choose to support our country like the true stars of the past, people like Bob Hope, Bing Crosby, Dorothy Lamour, Errol Flynn, and others who used their talent to fight dictators, fascism, and tyranny. For his part, Farrell has been on the front lines against the use of force to persuade Saddam Hussein to disarm.

"It is inappropriate for the administration to trump up a case in which we are ballyhooed into war," said the former star of "M*A*S*H." But as pointed out by WorldNetDaily columnist Larry Elder, "when Clinton took non-U.N.-approved military action in Kosovo, Farrell said, 'I think it's appropriate for the international community in situations like this to intervene. I am in favor of an intervention.'"

The Virtual March on Hollywood is indicative of a sentiment that has not received much coverage in the national media, but is just now elbowing its way to center stage.

For instance, America Online yesterday featured the issue of celebrities' war stances on its welcome screen. The Internet service provider asked members three questions in connection with entertainers' impact on public policy. With over 400,000 votes logged by 6:30 p.m. Eastern Time, results in the unscientific survey overwhelmingly showed that few believe high-profile activists influence their own stances:

Do celebrity activists affect your political opinions?

93% No

7% Yes

Total votes: 437,186 Should President Bush pay more attention to anti-war protesters?

71% No

29% Yes

Total votes: 437,724 Do you think peace demonstrations embolden Saddam?

71% Yes

29% No

Total votes: 432,144 AOL also showcased many of the personal comments submitted by its subscribers, shown here in the precise order displayed by AOL:

"They are actors! Why do people bow down and swear allegiance to what they say?" (Danrad54) "Are actors qualified to do geopolitical commentary? No. It is sort of like saying Charlton Heston is qualified to be Moses." (Zopinion)

"Celebrities have a right to state their opinion and we have an obligation to ignore or mock them." (Andy 72259)

"Stop the insanity and force these people to live in the rest of the world like the rest of us." (MissOktavia)

"If Hannity and Rush and O'Reilly can froth at the mouth for the war machine – and none of them are more or less qualified to do so than any actor – I don't see why the celebrities have to be silenced." (PoetAmelie)

"Are celebrities entitled to their opinion? As private citizens, yes. As self-proclaimed experts because they starred in a movie about war, no!" (Pcny1953)

Hollywood Halfwits

Meanwhile, a California investor fed up with hearing "anti-American" celebrity rhetoric has created a website to document the statements made by well-known entertainers.

HollywoodHalfwits.com made its debut three days ago, and without spending a cent on advertising was already receiving up to 2,000 hits per hour last night.

The site's creator, Mark Fleming, believes many celebrities speaking against President Bush right now are simply ignorant and uninformed.

"While they think they're promoting peace, they're actually pushing us to war," he told WorldNetDaily. "Saddam Hussein gets more and more emboldened [by them]. If we were all together on this, he'd be out of there by now."

Among the celebs featured on Hollywood Halfwits is singer Sheryl Crow, who made headlines earlier this week by claiming CBS executives sought to silence any anti-war rhetoric during the Grammy Awards broadcast.

The Crow statement featured by Fleming is the singer's current philosophy regarding military conflict:

"I think war is based in greed and there are huge karmic retributions that will follow. I think war is never the answer to solving any problems. The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies."

Ironically, during the Balkan conflict of the mid-1990s, Crow was not involved in any anti-war protests. In fact, the singer was ecstatic about entertaining American troops in Bosnia.

"Once over there I felt extremely patriotic," Crow told USA Today. "Here are these people, from 18-year-olds to military veterans, enduring real duress for the cause of peace."

"I don't ever want to play for a regular audience again, only military folks who are starving for music," she added.

Crow's apparent flip-flop didn't go unnoticed by radio talk-show giant Rush Limbaugh.

"Do you think if the Bush administration asked her to go entertain the troops in Iraq, she would go?" asked Limbaugh. "I wouldn't count on it. All these people are just a bunch of thoroughbred hypocrites."

Also featured on Fleming's site is the famous pro-peace statement made by actor Richard Gere during the "Concert for New York" to raise money for the victims of the Sept. 11 terror attack. Gere was loudly booed while making these remarks:

Richard Gere (photo: Hollywood.com)

"In a situation like this, of course you identify with everyone who's suffering. [But we must also think about] the terrorists who are creating such horrible future lives for themselves because of the negativity of this karma. It's all of our jobs too keep our minds as expansive as possible. If you can see [the terrorists] as a relative who's dangerously sick and we have to give them medicine, and the medicine is love and compassion. There's nothing better."

Back in Los Angeles, KFI's John Kobylt had this reaction to Gere's stance.

"Who the hell wants to go see him in a movie? I mean who can stomach that guy once you hear that stuff?" he asked.

The public-relations offensive could gain more steam this weekend with the debut of a television commercial featuring "Law & Order" star Fred Thompson.

"Thank goodness we have a president with the courage to protect our country," the former Tennesee senator says in the ad, according to the Drudge Report. "What should we do with the inevitable prospect of nuclear weapons in the hands of a murderous and aggressive enemy? Can we afford to appease Saddam?"

The effort comes just days after "West Wing" actor Martin Sheen created a commercial in which he implores fans and viewers: "Don't invade Iraq. Inspections work; war won't."

NBC executives were reportedly unapprised of Thomspon's spot challenging Sheen.

"We obviously have not taken a stand on President Bush's policies," a senior network official told Drudge. "Mr. Sheen and Mr. Thompson are both acting in their capacity as private citizens, I would trust."

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To: A Navy Vet

 

Hall of Halfwits Latest Stories Recent Additions


NEW QUOTES
ADDED DAILY

Alec Baldwin
Ani DiFranco
Barbra Streisand
Bianca Jagger

Cher
Danny Glover
Dave Matthews
David Clennon
Donald Sutherland
Dustin Hoffman
Ed Asner
Ed Harris
Edward Norton
George Clooney
Gore Vidal
Harry Belafonte
Janeane Garofalo
Jessica Lange
Julia Roberts
Martin Sheen
Martin Scorsese
Michael Moore
Richard Gere
Robert Altman
Sandra Bernhard
Sean Combs
Sean Penn
Sheryl Crow
Spike Lee
Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Harvey Weinstein
Whoopi Goldberg
Woody Harrelson

To be added with quotes:

George Michael
Mike Farrell
John Cusack?
Eric Roberts


and now...

Dan Rather!


Dan Rather's Seditious Behavior

U.S. CITIZENS ATTACK ANTI-WAR CELEBRITIES

'Virtual' War Protest Ties Up Senate Phones

DRUDGE: 'Law and Order' Actor Films Pro-War Rebuttal to 'West Wing' Martin Sheen

Learning from Hollywood: Anti-Anti-War Protest Launched

CBS Show is "Bigotry for Bucks"

Anti-war Activist Janeane Garofalo Says "It Wasn't Hip" to Protest Clinton's Wars

Hollywood Reporter poll: 44% Would Not Support Work of "a politically active celebrity with whom they disagree."

ZETA, BE COOL TO OUR $CHOOL

Goneahue Donahue

George Clooney Says "We Can't Beat Anyone Anymore"

Should Celebrities Speak Out Over Iraq?

Bono Calls Bill Clinton a Huge Rock Star

CBS Execs Want No 'Anti-War' Statements During Grammys

Parody: "Win Without War" Releases Talking Points

“In my country the atmosphere is poisoned. Unbreathable for those of us who are not on the right. So thank you for inviting me to this festival and allowing me to leave there for a few days.”

-- Jessica Lange

"So when I see the American flag, I go, 'Oh my God, you're insulting me.'"

"'We're here, we're queer!' -- that's what makes my heart swell. Not the flag, but a gay naked man or woman burning the flag. I get choked up with pride."

-- Janeanne Garofalo

"I believe he thinks this [war against Iraq] is a war that can be won, but there is no such thing anymore...We can't beat anyone anymore"

-- George Clooney

Favorite Quotes

"I think war is based in greed and there are huge karmic retributions that will follow. I think war is never the answer to solving any problems. The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies."

- Sheryl Crow

"I don't really view communism as a bad thing."

- Whoopi Goldberg

"America has never paid any attention to other people"

-- Richard Gere

"I'm saying that the moral climate within the ruling class in this country is not that different from the moral climate within the ruling class of Hitler's Germany."

-- David Clennon

"Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture."

-- Harry Belafonte

Notes from Hollywood Halfwits
Hollywood Heroes

I'm going to work on this section once I get a few other things out of the way. I've taken the "nominees" off for now because I am getting hundreds of e-mails an hour with suggestions for removals and additions. Can't handle it right now--the other items in my "notes" in the next column are more critical right now.

Thanks you for all your emails and we'll get back on this topic soon.

 

 

First of all, THANK YOU. I only put this site up on Monday as a "hobby" and I've now received tens of thousands of hits a day. I'm a bit overwhelmed with your support. Considering this is a hobby site, and not a commercial venture, I can only move so fast in making additions and improvements--I still have to pay my bills spend time my with my family. The good news is that I'm not wasting my time on a lot of Hollywood movies!

However, I'm working as fast as I can to do the following:

  • Add more quotes to both Halfwits and Heroes. I could use you help on actual quotes WITH LINKS for documentation.
  • Add a discussion forum. Judging from the Guestbook and my emails, you have a lot to say!
  • Provide links for each celebrity's work and their contact information. (For now go to www.imdb.com, look up the artist and there will be link to their contact info(usually their agent).
  • Begin a "Links" section to other useful web sites

I've cancelled a snowboarding trip this weekend (darn!) and am pushing aside a few business matters in order to try and accomplish this quickly.

-- Mark

 


21 posted on 02/27/2003 10:39:03 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: hoosierskypilot
Rice and beans is pretty much all you get in non-touristy parts of Mexico.
22 posted on 02/27/2003 10:39:31 PM PST by SeenTheLight
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To: A Navy Vet
Is that ethical to rip a whole webpage and post it here? Just wondering or is that common practice for here.
The site is well done, though I would suggest to the webmaster he add the code to open offsite links in a new window, so you don't have to leave the site everytime you click on a link.
23 posted on 02/27/2003 11:13:05 PM PST by wolficatZ
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To: wolficatZ
Apparently, the creator of the web site wants to get the word out at his own cost. Also, I think you can adjust your link opening preferences right here.
24 posted on 02/27/2003 11:30:36 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: fight_truth_decay
I always liked Tom Selleck's grasp of an actor's place in the universe. He says they "make faces at a camera" for a living.
25 posted on 02/28/2003 2:37:43 AM PST by NYpeanut
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To: A Navy Vet
Navy Vet--

Thank you so much for posting those addresses for the commieentertainment field. I will get right on sending them my anti commie celebrity protests. God Bless.
27 posted on 02/28/2003 2:56:18 AM PST by rambo316
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Karma?

So we finish 18 and he's gonna stiff me and I say: 'Hey Lama, hey how about a little something, you know, for the effort?!' And he says: 'There'll be no money, but when you die, on your deathbed you will receive total consciousness.' So I got that going for me, which is nice.
28 posted on 02/28/2003 3:24:47 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: wolficatZ
I saw Fred Thompson's commercial, he asked a great question to counter the anti-war folks:

What threat to us were the 9-11 terrorists before 9-11?
29 posted on 02/28/2003 6:11:05 AM PST by jonalvy44
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To: Ethyl
I think Ben and jerry sold their company some years ago.They're rerired rich left wingers.
33 posted on 02/28/2003 7:14:49 AM PST by Emeraldgold
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To: A Navy Vet
Bump
34 posted on 02/28/2003 9:27:34 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Emeraldgold; Ethyl
I think Ben and jerry sold their company some years ago.They're rerired rich left wingers.

They also abandoned their policy of limiting the compentation of their top executives to some small multiple of the lowest paid workers wages.

35 posted on 02/28/2003 1:07:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (This space left intentionally blank.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
rich people with socialist idealism =facism.
36 posted on 02/28/2003 10:19:44 PM PST by Emeraldgold
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To: fight_truth_decay
with all the talk about the hollywood left. I can't help but thinking of history. I can't help but thinking of them as "Copperheads." They are true copperheads of the 1860's.
37 posted on 02/28/2003 10:25:25 PM PST by Emeraldgold
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To: fight_truth_decay
If people can sue McDonald's, perhaps it is time to sue Ben and Jerry for selling a product that has been killing people. Maybe they wouldn't have time to be spouting off.
38 posted on 02/28/2003 10:32:50 PM PST by doug from upland (Bill and Hillary's first instinct is survival.....their second is to lie.)
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To: Bernard Marx
Naaaaaaa, whatcha wanna do is grab up 5 or 6 pints of B&J in your shopping cart right off the bat.

As you shop the rest of the store, casually take a pint here and a pint there and put them on shelves behind soda crackers, peanut butter, floor wax, laundary detergeant, etc, until you've rid your cart of the 5 or 6 pints.

39 posted on 02/28/2003 10:52:48 PM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: doug from upland
Maybe they wouldn't have time to be spouting off.

They took the money and ran -- they sold the company years ago. But your idea would work for the present owners.

40 posted on 02/28/2003 11:39:23 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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