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Sound Familiar? Understanding Islamic End-Times Beliefs
National Review Online ^ | February 28, 2003 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 02/28/2003 10:11:09 AM PST by John H K

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1 posted on 02/28/2003 10:11:09 AM PST by John H K
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2 posted on 02/28/2003 10:57:10 AM PST by fishtank
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3 posted on 02/28/2003 11:07:01 AM PST by IncPen (Dick Durbin - before he dicks you (How do you spell 'litmus test' in Spanish?))
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4 posted on 02/28/2003 11:07:12 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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5 posted on 02/28/2003 11:22:58 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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Interesting how Muhammed stole all of his eschatology from the Hebrew/Christian Bible. You will notice that everything they teach is 180 degrees diffrent from the Bible. I.E., black=white, evil=good,lies=truth, etc. This is truly the battle between G-d and Satan. BTW, I was sent this modern rendition of the 23rd Psalm:

Today's 23rd Psalm


The Lord is my peace. I shall not live in anxiety. He puts me under His wing of comfort and calms my spirit within me. He takes all my anxieties on Himself and helps me to focus on Him. Yes, though I walk through a time of grave uncertainties and fierce anxieties, I will not fear, for You are my peace. Your Word and Your presence calm me now. You hold my uncertainties in the palm of Your hand. You soothe my anxious mind - You smooth my wrinkled brow. Surely serenity and trust in You shall fill me all the days of my life. And I shall keep my mind stayed on You forever.


Though the days ahead are uncertain with rumors of war, we have our Mighty God who holds us by our hand and gives us strength for this day. We exalt His name together!

6 posted on 02/28/2003 12:22:52 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the Christians and Jews of Iraq.)
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Ping to perhaps the most important article to appear in the mainstream press in the last 18 months!

A major journalist has finally interviewed David Cook, the academic expert on Islamicist millennialism!

There will be a messianic age, led by either Jesus or another messianic figure called the Mahdi. This latter figure will conquer the entire world and convert everyone to Islam.

That is what they believe is happening right now, folks! We are in the early stages of the war through which every infidel is killed, and every pious Westerner / Asian / African, etc. converts to fundamental Islam.

This is also a good introduction to Islamic messianism. One thing Cook does not say here, but does say elsewhere is that modern imams teach that the Dajjal does not have to be one individual (as classical Islamic teaching holds, which Cook repeats here) but that “Dajjal” may refer to a nation (or alliance of nations), or to an entire culture. Guess who.

Another cheery factoid he leaves out is that the popular timetable for Islamicist apocalyptics is that the Day of Judgment will happen in the Muslim year 1500 AH. That’s 2076 our time, folks. Which means that – as bad as things are now – we are on the outer edge of the maelstrom. Fanatic Islamicist millenarianism will get worse as we get closer and closer to that date.

More later.

7 posted on 02/28/2003 2:08:08 PM PST by Dajjal
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Coming to judge the living and the dead...Flag
8 posted on 02/28/2003 3:11:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
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The madhi is said to come from Afganistan and parade about with black flags. Both Omar and UBL used this prophecy to convince illiterate people that they were the madhi. The taleban and Omar are always pictured with those black turbans and flags.
Maybe the USA is God's intrument, what does the arab world like them apples. I suspect the resistance we are getting from Saudi Arabia, etc,,, are not supporting the USA
9 posted on 02/28/2003 3:14:04 PM PST by STD
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because they believe this crap.
10 posted on 02/28/2003 3:15:09 PM PST by STD
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11 posted on 02/28/2003 3:17:16 PM PST by Cool Guy (In God We Trust.)
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see this thread, espectially post #17 & later.
12 posted on 02/28/2003 3:31:04 PM PST by Dajjal
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used this prophecy to convince illiterate people

Actually, the more literate the person is, the easier it would be to convince him -- so long as it's literacy in the Qur'an and Hadith. And the black flag is the least of the prophecies. There are hundreds of "Signs of Qiyamah," and it isn't hard for the mullahs to make the case, Hal-Lindsey-like, that they are coming to pass. And these prophecies guarantee them victory over an Infidel Superpower, so don't expect a few stealth bombers and daisy cutters to make them change their minds.

13 posted on 02/28/2003 3:48:02 PM PST by Dajjal
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14 posted on 02/28/2003 3:50:19 PM PST by Allan
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Disaster That Struck The Ancients
15 posted on 02/28/2003 4:13:59 PM PST by blam
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Muhammad Sajad Ali : Qadiri-Noshahi
16 posted on 02/28/2003 4:45:17 PM PST by Dajjal
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The Signs of Qiyamah
by Mohammed Ali Ibn Zubair Ali and Mufti Afzal Hoosen Elias

17 posted on 02/28/2003 4:47:48 PM PST by Dajjal
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You can readily see how the mullahs use this plagiarized and altered apocalyptic to rouse their minions to terrorism. Fits perfectly into their conquer-the-world-for-Islam philosophy.

Of course, from time to time, there are Christian and Jewish apocalyptic folks who want to bring on the millennium by destroying the Muslim shrine to clear the way for the rebuilding of the Temple. But that is a small minority. I think this sort of apocalyptic is more widespread and more compelling to the average Muslim than it is among any Christians, either at present or in the past.
18 posted on 02/28/2003 5:09:33 PM PST by George W. Bush
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If you were advising the president on what he could do to avoid provoking unnecessarily Muslims who believe strongly in Islamic prophecy, what would you tell him?

Cook: I would tell him to convert to Islam if I were trying to get him to avoid provoking Muslims who believe strongly in Islamic prophecy. There is probably no other way to avoid provoking them.
19 posted on 02/28/2003 5:15:23 PM PST by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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Very interesting links.
20 posted on 02/28/2003 8:55:29 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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