LIVE THREAD: Estrada Filibuster

http://freerepublic.com ^ | March 3, 2003

[Howlin]

Live stream from C-SPAN

Comments and discussion of the live coverage of the continuing Estrada filibuster.

[Howlin]

Is it just me or do the Democrats, who always say they are for the downtrodden and minorities, ALWAYS play the race/sex/religion/ethnicity card first?

That is just stunning, IMO.

[Sacajaweau]

Hillary usually makes her entrance about now.

[justshe]

Actually......couldn't this all end IF: Next time a motion is made to vote, NO DEMOCRAT objects? That is what is holding it up right now. Then a simple majority or 51 votes would be all that's needed.

[votelife]

Graham is simply a finger to the wind politician. He is afraid to say ANYTHING on Estrada.

If he's not finger to the wind, he's down right dangerous on national security. Regardless of what you think about the merits of Iraq, I think virtually ALL Freepers believe Graham opposed the Iraq resolution simply to oppose so some credible Democrat could say I TOLD YOU SO. Hence the basis for his running. I expect Graham's candidancy to go down in flames as soon as we clean up Iraq.

[deport]

A few of the groups opposing Estrada

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Organization	Position
ADA Watch	Opposes
AFL-CIO	Opposes
Alliance for Justice	Opposes
American Association of University Women	Opposes
Americans for Democratic Action	Opposes
Congressional Black Caucus	Opposes
Congressional Hispanic Caucus	Opposes
Earthjustice	Opposes
Feminist Majority	Opposes
Labor Council for Latin American Advancement	Opposes
Leadership Conference on Civil Rights	Opposes
Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund	Opposes
NAACP	Opposes
NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund	Opposes
NARAL	Opposes
National Council of Jewish Women	Opposes
National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association	Opposes
National Farm Worker Ministry	Opposes
National Organization for Women	Opposes
National Partnership for Women and Families	Opposes
National Women's Law Center	Opposes
People for the American Way	Opposes
Planned Parenthood	Opposes
Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund	Opposes
Sierra Club	Opposes
Southwest Voter Registration and Education Project	Opposes
Republican National Committee	Supports
The Heritage Foundation	Supports
Washington Legal Foundation	Supports

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[Sacajaweau]

That's right and that is what SHOULD happen and 51 votes would be needed to seat Estrada.

[spokeshave]

Yes ...each time Hatch or Frist calls for a vote withot objections some rat or other objects....then they start all over again....

[billva]

I wrote Graham about Estrada. His answer was simply the Senate was discussing him. I wrote back and asked his position on a filibuster. I'm waiting for an answer.

[Howlin]

Did you get that off the DNC donor page?

IMO, the real opposition there is coming from NARAL.

[Howlin]

Yes, close to prime time.

[RobFromGa]

Well the only way I know of to shut up all the Democrats at the same time is duct tape. And I think it is against Senate rules to duct tape all the mouths of the opposition closed.

Mrs. Clinton just voted Aye. The Beast is in the house.

[Howlin]

BTW, have you seen John Edwards speaking on the floor about this?

[Howlin]

The Beast is in the house.

ROFLMAO!

[jwalsh07]

Now what is THAT you have posted? Are they all saying the same thing?

:-} Nah, just having a little fun with Mr Sheen, formerly known as Ramon Estevez.

[woodyinscc]

Mabelkitty just asked what it took for cloture.

[Sacajaweau]

I have a dim recollection of him early into this but am not certain.

[votelife]

Howlin, concerning the Hispanic comment, I haven't heard many actually say this. BUT, if Estrada were say, Estride, and White, but HAD THE EXACT SAME VIEWS, I think he would already have been confirmed. Strictly speaking, this doesn't mean the Dems are racist against Hispanics.

BUT, they do insist on ideological liberal purity from minorities. Therefore any Hispanic conservative, or black conservative (like Clarence Thomas) must be demonized. To allow conservative minorties a clear voice is a MAJOR threat to the Dem power base...why do you think Belafonte is so upset at Powel (because he supports the "master") and Condi?

So, in summation, Democrats are not "racists" as Bill Frist recently said. But they do think they should tell minorities how to think and what is best for them. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

[deport]

Did you get that off the DNC donor page?

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LOL..... Well you have to know what your oppostion is about... Not the DNC but just about as bad.

[Carolinamom]

The REGULAR GUY is also in the house.....voted aye. Has he been in NC lately?

[votelife]

to everyone who has freeped Graham: THANK YOU and keep it up! We got to Bill Nelson. But Graham is much more of a high profile, esp since he is running for Pres. If he caves, then it's a signal/cover to other wavering Dems.