The Peacenik Top 10: The ten most popular objections to war and some commonsense responses to them

Wislonianism: Going to war to make the world safe for Democracy.

With all do respect, we are hardly Wilsonian. If we were, we would invade Africa and Democratize all of those countries. They would be far easier than Iraq.

We are attacking Iraq because Ba'athist (Pan-Arab National Socialist) Regimes alligning themselves with Islamist regimes and supporting terrorists are threats to the US. It is in our national interest to do so.
Now you may disagree. However, to call all pro-war folks Wilsonian is false.
As for Barnes, he probably is a Neo-Wilsonian. PS. You might be interest in the Paleo blog run by Jim Kalb and Larry Auster www.counterrevolution.net/vfr/

That logic follows the liberal tradition of justifying every federalized handout as constitutional under the 'General Welfare' clause.

Even, worse, the hawks have used the tactics of the left to convince themselves the George Washington had no idea what the world would be like when he warned against "searching for foreign monsters to destroy." You can disagree with him, you can say he had no idea what the world would be like today, but at some point, you cease to be a conservative and become merely a pawn in the whims of the political ruling class of the day.

The only conservative argument for the war is the one that the Bush team is not making. Saddam represents an uppity, backward nation in a failing backward culture. He is a logical person to make an example of in the hope of convincing other Arab members of the ruling class to get their homes in order.

Rather, the Bush Team, featuring anti-Christians and certainly anti-Conservatives, Condi Rice, Colin Powell and Fred Barbes, telling us that the war is about how awful Saddam treats his people; How Islam is really a religion of peace; how Iraq has weapons of mass destruction (who doesn't these days?); how we keep letting these people into our country...

So long as the Bush team frames the war in liberal rhetoric, the policy should be rejected by Conservatives.

But the war is a given at this point and many innocent people will die, and hopefully, Bush will be right and we will be better off. But one things for sure, if there is another terrorist attack 10 years from now in response to what happens in Iraq today, the neo-cons and the hawks will claim no responsibility, just as liberal welfare-state leftists take no responsibility for the destruction of black American society when they unleashed the war on poverty.

If the unintended consequences of Gulf War One was 9/11, why are we allowing Perle/Wolfowitz/Cheney/Rummy still steer this ship?

I will check out your link, thank you. I am a paleo-libertarian in the Yankee merchant tradition and there is plenty of disagreement between myself and my neo-confederate and prarie populist friends, but we all seem to know liberalism when we hear it.

Don't get too upset about the unwashed malcontents getting riled up by the marxist Workers World Party to wale and stomp and throw temper tantrums in our streets. On their best day they may have brought out 200k nationwide - however 299,800,000 Americans didn't participate that day. Interest is waning, their crap is old and tired. Don't let them bother you - they're not worth it.

...where were they when Slick Willie was doing the Missiles for Monica mission(Kosovo)?

Exactly. Those clymers are not for peace; they are just against Bush and the many Americans who share his Judeo-Christian values.

Wow! You got to shake W's hand. I am envious. Sorry you had to touch the Rapist. I hope you washed your hand in antiseptic solution after that.

I'll mostly concede or plead No Contest. Before I wrote my first post here at FR I wrote on my home page that "I would fail many of the litmus tests of a true Conservative".

But re "foreign monsters", we aren't "searching" for the Muslims because we're bored; they found us. As Los Angeles and San Diego have foretold and continue to fortell the future for the Silicon Valley re language problems, race conflicts, general lawlessness, etc., Israel is the early indication of what will happen to the U.S. if the Muslims are allowed to continue their war against civilization.

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