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Flight 800: Breakthrough!
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 13, 2003 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/13/2003 8:06:41 AM PST by Scholastic

Flight 800: Breakthrough!

Posted: March 13, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

One cannot underestimate the impact of what has just transpired in James and Elizabeth Sanderses' ongoing civil suit against the federal government and seven named individuals. The case number is federal EDNY, #01-CV-5447 JS.

The United States government has declined to respond to the Sanderses' summary judgment motion – "Rule 56.1 Statement." Incredibly, by so declining, U.S. Attorney Kevin Cleary has conceded that the Sanderses' 32 damning charges against his clients cannot be rebutted.

In so conceding, the Justice Department tacitly acknowledges that, yes, the TWA Flight 800 investigation has been corrupted and, no, we are not prepared to contest this fact.

In sum, Cleary has thrown in the towel on a case that ranks among the most egregious violations of a reporter's constitutional rights in the history of American journalism.

From the beginning, the story of TWA Flight 800, the one that James Sanders chronicled, has been a story of humanity betrayed – none more so than the 230 good souls aboard that doomed plane.

Fifty-three of the dead were TWA employees. James' wife, Elizabeth Sanders, had trained many of the attendants on board and knew several of the pilots. Their deaths wounded the sweet, vulnerable Elizabeth deeply. In the weeks afterward, she and her TWA colleagues passed numbly from one memorial service to another, their grief matched only by their growing anger at the obvious misdirection of the investigation. One of those colleagues, 747 pilot and manager Terry Stacey, would become James Sanders' best source within that investigation.

From the beginning, too, James Sanders has recognized the humanity of those who have tried to block him from telling this story. In his civil suit, as in his reporting – including the book he and I have co-authored, "First Strike, TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America" – Sanders has never shied from putting a human face on injustice.

What makes Sanders' legal case so powerful is that he targets not merely the anonymous monolith of "government," but seven named defendants within. These are real people with real fears who, for a variety of reasons, yielded to those fears and betrayed the trust of the American people. For several years now, Sanders is all that has stood between them and knowledge that they got away with it. No doubt, they are anxious about this turn of events. One hopes major media will seek them out and exploit that anxiety.

As Sanders argued in his summary judgment motion, the named defendants used their legal authority not to protect the federal Flight 800 investigation, but to thwart Sanders' reporting on their own lawlessness. In the process, the defendants knowingly violated the First, Fourth and Fifth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

The persecution of Sanders can be traced to March 10, 1997, when California's Riverside Press-Enterprise headlined its front page with an article titled, "New Data Show Missile May Have Nailed TWA 800." Written by Loren Fleckenstein, the story identified James Sanders as an "investigative reporter," provided information on his previous non-fiction books, and described his inquiry into the FBI and NTSB Flight 800 investigation over the preceding five months.

This story created a significant problem for the Justice Department. The article's text confirmed that Sanders was on the trail of potential criminal activity within the Flight 800 investigation. As to those charged with containing the investigation, their worst nightmare had been realized. Forensic evidence had left the hangar. Some unknown person within the investigation had removed a pinch of material from the plane as telling and potentially damaging as Monica's famed "blue dress." That person was Terry Stacey. He removed it of his own volition and sent it to Sanders.

This piece of seatback was laced with the DNA of the crash, a reddish-orange residue trail that streaked across a narrow section of the plane's interior. The FBI had lifted samples in early September 1996, then refused to share the test results with the NTSB. For the record, those tests today remain classified under the guise of national security.

Once the story had broken, the Clinton Justice Department used its considerable powers to thwart Sanders. The key to its strategy was the denial of Sanders' standing as a journalist by two Justice Department lawyers, Valerie Caproni and Benton Campbell. The current Justice Department now concedes that these two attorneys did the following:

conspired to print factually false information in a Justice Department letter to deprive [James Sanders] of his civil rights afforded by the PPA (Privacy Protection Act). By falsely alleging they did not know plaintiff was a journalist, defendants conspired to create an illegal scheme allowing them to subpoena and obtain work product and documents because, per the scheme, they did not know [Sanders] was a journalist until after receiving work product and documents.

The charges went beyond the two attorneys. The current Justice Department has chosen not to contest the following related charge from Sanders' civil suit:

Within seconds of learning that the overarching conspiracy [FBI agents Jim Kallstrom and Jim Kinsley, NTSB Chairman Jim Hall, NTSB head of investigation Bernie Loeb, and NTSB head of the Fire & Explosion Team Merritt Birky] were engaged in to alter the outcome of the TWA 800 federal 'investigation' was compromised by [James Sanders], CAPRONI and CAMPBELL knew beyond any doubt that [Sanders] was a journalist protected by PPA and Justice Department CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) 50.10. Defendants CAPRONI and CAMPBELL, in order to protect themselves and their co-conspirators, knowingly and willfully widened the overarching conspiracy to include violating [Sanders] PPA civil rights by using grand jury subpoena power to illegally seize work product.

The Sanders' suit details the way this conspiracy worked and names those responsible. Again, the Justice Department has let these incriminating charges stand unrebutted:

Defendants, no later than March 11, 1997, falsely said the reddish-orange residue was glue. Defendants HALL and LOEB made this false statement to Congress on March 11, 1997. Defendant BIRKY inserted this false information into the Fire & Explosion Team "Factual Report" … Defendants removed substantially all reddish-orange residue from rows 17-19. LOEB was then given the assignment to lie to Congress and state there was no residue trail on the seats inside Calverton Hangar.

At the FBI's Nov. 18, 1997 press conference, Kallstrom made the following claim about this residue trail:

The seat cushion residue, reported in the Riverside, Calif., press, of the residue that someone said was rocket fuel. The truth is the material is contact adhesive.

We know without a doubt – without any doubt whatsoever – that it's the adhesive that holds the back of the seats together. It's not rocket fuel. It's not residue of a rocket, never was, never will be.

The Justice Department, in essence, now concedes Kallstrom's "statement was false, [and] known to be false." Justice also concedes that "KALLSTROM and KINSLEY conspired to create a factually false illusion that [James Sanders] had misrepresented the [red residue tests]."

In fact, the residue was demonstrably not glue. The Justice Department also concedes that another FBI agent gave false testimony about the red residue by choosing not to contest the following charge:

FBI agent Ken Maxwell, testifying at the [Sanders'] criminal trial April 7, 1999, falsely stated the FBI first observed the reddish-orange [trail] in late October to early November [1996]. This factually false statement was made as a part of a conspiracy with [Justice Department attorney] PITOFSKY to place the peak FBI point of interest in the residue at the same period of time [James Sanders] and [Terry] Stacey were discussing removal for testing purposes.

If there were a consistent strategy among the seven defendants, it was to de-humanize the Sanderses – to strip away their dignity and individuality. This strategy reached its tragi-comic peak on Dec. 5, 1997 when the FBI's New York office Internet site proudly headlined the story of the Sanderses' arrest: "Conspiracy theorist and wife charged with theft of parts from airplane," and scrolled it across the top of its home page. The arrest warrant was shot through with false statements. In his suit, Sanders would credit FBI agents Jim Kallstrom and Jim Kinsley for this misrepresentation – and the Justice Department now concedes these constitutional violations.

Here is another critical point that the Justice Department has chosen not to contest: "On Dec. 5, 1997, the New York Justice Department-FBI website, coordinated with the KALLSTROM-KINSLEY conspiracy to vilify [James Sanders]." By labeling Sanders a "conspiracy theorist" on its website, the FBI employed a subjective characterization that violates the FBI's own guidelines.

Things got uglier four days later when FBI agent Jim Kinsley paraded James and Elizabeth through a throng of reporters, their hands cuffed behind their backs. Throughout it, Elizabeth worried deeply about what her aging mother, a Philippine immigrant, would think. Sanders would remember her hurt in his civil suit and charged Kinsley with inflicting it by orchestrating a gratuitous and illegal "perp walk."

Kinsley was also involved in one of the more clever bits of illegal mischief. As the Sanderses charge, and the Justice Department concedes, federal prosecutor David Pitofsky recognized that Kinsley's seizure of Sanders' computer was illegal. So Pitofsky initiated a scheme in which relevant printouts of that information would be sent to publisher Alfred Regnery. He and Kinsley then jointly contacted Regnery and demanded the publisher turn all over related documents in his possession, which he did.

At almost every turn in this sordid tale, cleverness trumped honor. The legal deck was stacked from the beginning and the jury pool poisoned. In April 1999, James and Elizabeth Sanders stood trial in Long Island before a jury shielded from the knowledge that James Sanders was acting as a journalist uncovering the criminal acts of federal agents, let alone that he was being prosecuted by the very agents he had hoped to expose.

As typical in a criminal trial, the prosecution got the last word. "A conspiratorial government going after these people?" David Pitofsky scoffed. "And, to what end? What is the government's motive? Ask yourself that. What is the government's motive to falsely implicate these people?"

One can hardly fault the jury for not knowing. They heard nothing about corruption within the investigation. They did not know about James Sanders' First Amendment right to expose that corruption or that his attempt to assert that right had been denied.

All they knew was that these two likely thieves may or may not have conspired to steal evidence from a crime scene. And why believe these "conspiracy theorists"? The establishment media obviously didn't. Besides, what reason did their government have to "falsely implicate these people?"

The jury returned after less than two hours of deliberation. Elizabeth clutched her husband's hand, almost too anxious to speak. She hoped for the best, but feared the worst. The worst is what they got.

"Guilty as charged" – both Sanderses – not only for conspiracy, but also for aiding and abetting in the theft of the fabric. The audience gasped in disbelief. Even Judge Joanna Seybert looked stunned.

David Pitofsky beamed in delight. "The jury understood," he said, spinning nonsense even in victory, "that no responsible reporter would believe they could break into a place to get a story.'' At this sad moment of truth, as she wept softly, one thought flashed through Elizabeth's mind, "What will my mother think?"

The Justice Department now concedes that it "fabricated a defense where none existed" in earlier opposing the Sanderses' civil action. It also concedes there is no defense for the 32 counts of federal lawlessness committed in pursuit of destroying a journalist and his wife.

Today, as the Sanderses await Judge Seybert's summary judgment ruling, the major media have the opportunity finally to recognize the innocent, to rebuke the guilty and to avenge the dead. Whether they choose to tell it or not, this is a story that will not go away.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coverup; elizabethsanders; jamessanders; twa800
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1 posted on 03/13/2003 8:06:41 AM PST by Scholastic
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To: Scholastic
Perhaps a practice run for things to come?
2 posted on 03/13/2003 8:09:49 AM PST by ewing
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To: timestax
ping
3 posted on 03/13/2003 8:11:52 AM PST by muggs
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To: Scholastic
Thanks for posting this. I can hardly wait to see how this will be spun.
4 posted on 03/13/2003 8:18:17 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Scholastic
"The Justice Department now concedes that it "fabricated a defense where none existed" in earlier opposing the Sanderses' civil action. It also concedes there is no defense for the 32 counts of federal lawlessness committed in pursuit of destroying a journalist and his wife." Gee, what a surprise that this occured under Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, but not to worry, the end did justify the means (the skunk was reelected).
5 posted on 03/13/2003 8:18:52 AM PST by anoldafvet (This message brought to you by the USA, USN, USAF, USMC and the USCG)
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To: kristinn
ping
6 posted on 03/13/2003 8:19:04 AM PST by Scholastic
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To: Scholastic
This could be a good time to expose the Clinton cover up of terrorism. I just pray that it was not a cover up of a friendly fire incident.

My husband knew a woman on that flight. She was a neighbor that he grew up with.
7 posted on 03/13/2003 8:20:44 AM PST by Eva
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To: Scholastic
What does this article mean?

Is W about to have the Gov admit that this was a bombing to destroy George S and Klinton?

Will this help focus on the war on terror?
8 posted on 03/13/2003 8:21:06 AM PST by fooman (Free NASA! Save NASA!)
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To: Scholastic
The United States government has declined to respond to the Sanderses' summary judgment motion – "Rule 56.1 Statement." Incredibly, by so declining, U.S. Attorney Kevin Cleary has conceded that the Sanderses' 32 damning charges against his clients cannot be rebutted.

World Net Daily huh?

This is extremely hyperbolic. How about giving us some facts?

I don't know anything about this case, and after reading this I still don't. I do know that there are other reasons not to respond to a motion.

Perhaps it wasn't worth doing because the motion was a minor point in a suit is that is certain to be rejected, just for one alternative explanation.

9 posted on 03/13/2003 8:23:03 AM PST by mlo
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To: anoldafvet
Gee, what a surprise that this occured under Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, but not to worry, the end did justify the means (the skunk was reelected).

Are you foolish enough to believe that the President has any influence on how the federal government is run?. Cmon now.

10 posted on 03/13/2003 8:25:00 AM PST by max61
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To: Scholastic
I suspect that the current President of the United States seeks truth.

If so, our nation cannot be in better hands.

11 posted on 03/13/2003 8:26:56 AM PST by thinktwice
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To: Scholastic
When did DOJ concede they fabricated anything?
12 posted on 03/13/2003 8:26:58 AM PST by habaes corpussel
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To: Scholastic
BTTT
13 posted on 03/13/2003 8:26:59 AM PST by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Scholastic
You have to wonder how much of this alleged coverup was designed to shield Al Gore, head of the Gore commission on airport/airline security. Would W keep the lid on it because of that or the debilitating effect it would have on the FBI?
14 posted on 03/13/2003 8:27:38 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: savedbygrace
Thanks for posting this. I can hardly wait to see how this will be spun.

You must be kidding. It won't even be reported. What started as a Clinton coverup continues as a Bush coverup.

15 posted on 03/13/2003 8:27:43 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: fooman
What does this article mean?

I'm about 99.99999999999999999999999999% sure it doesn't mean what the author wants you to think it means. Needs to be read carefully and with a critical eye.

I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that the "Summary Judgement Motion" not being responded to by the Government lawyer does NOT mean that the US Government accepts all the assorted foil-hat claims in it.

The author is simply listing all the claims in the motion and making it look like the Government is agreeing to all of them, and to the really-not-bright, making it look like the GOVERNMENT is saying the various things in the motion.

What it probably REALLY means; this "Summary Judgement Motion" is going to be laughed out of court by the judge in the case, and the government lawyer didn't specifically respond to the dog's breakfast of assorted accusations because he didn't need to and knows the case will be thrown out eventually.

Let me give an example of what would be similar; let's say there's a case like those kookjobs suing Bush for going to war against Iraq. A few days before the case is thrown out, the kookjobs submit a "Summary Judgement Motion" listing assorted things, including that GWB enjoys strangling kittens for fun, that Dick Cheney is a Nazi, that the government was behind 9/11, etc. When the government lawyer doesn't bother doing a point-by-point rebuttal, then the leftist kookjobs write a breathless article for whatever the Commie equivalent of World Crap Daily saying that since the government didn't respond to any of their claims specifically, they concede they're all true.

Mark my words, you're being bamboozled by WND and this author regarding the legal implications they're claiming.

16 posted on 03/13/2003 8:29:42 AM PST by John H K
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To: InterceptPoint
I was referring to our own resident spinmaesters. I've lost track of their names, but they seem to show up on these threads and give undying support for whatever the government position is.
17 posted on 03/13/2003 8:31:32 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: mlo
This was a Motion for Summary Judgement. Is that a minor motion?
18 posted on 03/13/2003 8:33:43 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: mlo
I do know that there are other reasons not to respond to a motion.
Perhaps it wasn't worth doing because the motion was a minor point in a suit is that is certain to be rejected, just for one alternative explanation.

Precisely. Glad to see someone else thinking.

People have really got to start reading things with a critical eye, even stuff from CONSERVATIVE sources, and even things they WANT to believe.

19 posted on 03/13/2003 8:36:17 AM PST by John H K
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To: Scholastic
Just another reason to dismiss WorldNetDaily as the information site for the lunatic fringe.

God, I wish they were liberal, it would make it a LOT easier to bash them.
20 posted on 03/13/2003 8:36:36 AM PST by The Lake City Gar
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To: savedbygrace
Don't look now, but I think some may have just showed up.
21 posted on 03/13/2003 8:38:42 AM PST by muggs
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To: InterceptPoint
do you conspiracy freaks know how weird you are?
22 posted on 03/13/2003 8:38:58 AM PST by ACross
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To: thinktwice
I suspect that the current President of the United States seeks truth.

I'm a big fan of the President, but he will abide by Presidential protocol and not open any cobwebbed doors containing skeletons of previous admins.

Bubba not only realizes this, but rubs Bush's nose in it.
23 posted on 03/13/2003 8:38:58 AM PST by mr.pink
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To: Scholastic
I don't like it when our government lies to us.
I'd like to hear the truth.
NY even started a Citizens for Truth organization because 100s of people saw a missile.
There's way too many unanswered questions, as with the OKC bombing.
24 posted on 03/13/2003 8:41:38 AM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: John H K
I agree with your assessment. This article could be boiled down to about 2 statements of fact, the rest is "leading the witness/reader."
25 posted on 03/13/2003 8:46:52 AM PST by sam_paine
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To: All; Scholastic; biblewonk
"One cannot underestimate the impact ..."

Really? So, does that mean it's ZERO?

Coincidentally, I saw the same gaffe in a Sears circular yesterday.

26 posted on 03/13/2003 8:47:01 AM PST by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. :-)
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To: harpseal

27 posted on 03/13/2003 8:47:25 AM PST by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Scholastic
Having read extensively on this subject, I came to the same conclusion as most of those who have really looked at the evidence. TWA 800 was brought down by a missile, or possibly by two missiles.

So far, it is impossible to know whether it was friendly fire from US navy ships exercising in the area, or from Muslim terrorists in a small boat. It could have been either.

Clinton and Reno orchestrated the coverup.

Regretably this new break in the case will only add one more piece of evidence for those of us who already know that there was a coverup. It will only be seen at WorldNetDaily, FreeRepublic, and other conservative sources, and therefore will only be seen by people who already were aware of clinton's criminal corruption of the FBI and other federal agencies.

President Bush has already shown that he has no interest in exposing clinton's crimes. The media have already shown that they will cover for clinton no matter what he does.

So, predictably, this will never be publicized and will go nowhere. The government didn't answer a legal challenge? So what? No one will hear about it, and if they do it will only be meaningful to those already familiar with the case.
28 posted on 03/13/2003 8:51:13 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ACross
do you conspiracy freaks know how weird you are?

Yes.

29 posted on 03/13/2003 8:54:04 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Joe Brower
I am a lawyer. The legal effect of NOT responding to a Motion for Summary Judgement is to Admit to the allegations contained in the underlying complaint. That is what WND was saying.
30 posted on 03/13/2003 8:54:20 AM PST by opinion8r
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To: John H K
Mark my words, you're being bamboozled by WND and this author regarding the legal implications they're claiming.

High probability placemarker. However I grew up with kerosene heaters and relit them when they were hot, and I'm still here. I'd sure like to see a convincing demo that jet fuel can do what was claimed.

31 posted on 03/13/2003 8:54:58 AM PST by js1138
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To: Scholastic
Good news!

I am waiting for the day that they nail that bastard Kallstrom!

The TWA 800 disaster struck very close to home for me. The French Club students who perished, along with their teachers and chaperones, were from the next town over from me here in PA. I knew parents and grandparents of these kids. One chaperone was the wife of one of our doctors; his beautiful daughter also died that day.

Either it was a terrorist missile, or it was our own US Navy, on training in the area that fateful night.

The fuel tank baloney was Kallstrom's invention.
32 posted on 03/13/2003 8:58:06 AM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Scholastic
GASP!

I'm schocked. SCHOCKED, I tell you!!

Who would ever imagine such a thing could take place in the Justice Department and FBI, right under Janet Reno and Bill Clinton's noses?

Why, if they only would have known....

33 posted on 03/13/2003 8:58:11 AM PST by Gritty
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To: opinion8r
That's what this non-lawyer thought. Thanks for clearing this matter up.
34 posted on 03/13/2003 8:58:59 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace
my pleasure!
35 posted on 03/13/2003 8:59:35 AM PST by opinion8r
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To: opinion8r; John H K
Of course, John H K will explain why you're wrong.
36 posted on 03/13/2003 9:01:23 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Cicero
Since we are speculating...

How about the US Navy being put on alert to look for Islamic terrorists in a boat with a stinger.

The Navy goes to the area in question, said Islamics launch missile at jet. Navy launches anti-missile measures at missile (possibly an anti-missile missile) and both arrive at airliner at about the same time.

Boom goes the jet.

Navy sends Islamics to bottom of the ocean and vacates the area.

Current President doesn't want investigation to derail his re-election, so cover up goes into place.

I refuse to reveal my sources... :^)

37 posted on 03/13/2003 9:01:49 AM PST by Crusher138
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To: Scholastic
The Sanders' suit details the way this conspiracy worked and names those responsible. Again, the Justice Department has let these incriminating charges stand unrebutted:

Should read:

The Sanders' suit details the way this conspiracy worked and names those responsible. Again, the CURRENT Justice Department has let these incriminating charges stand unrebutted:

38 posted on 03/13/2003 9:03:33 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: opinion8r
What is the judge afraid to act on the silence?
39 posted on 03/13/2003 9:04:15 AM PST by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always Flexable)
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To: ACross
If you knew of anything that the Clintons had their hands in, you'd admit that there's a possibility that TWA 800 was shot down.
If you knew anything about the previous administration, you'd not have scoffed.

The Clintons are scum of the Earth, and have successfully pulled con job after con job, aided and abetted by Janet Reno and a compromised Justice Department.
40 posted on 03/13/2003 9:04:45 AM PST by Darksheare (Quickly flip the switch and watch the pretty colors, of the pyrotechnics of my heart exploding.)
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To: opinion8r
I am a lawyer. The legal effect of NOT responding to a Motion for Summary Judgement is to Admit to the allegations contained in the underlying complaint. That is what WND was saying.

It appears that some apologies are in order from non-lawyers, mlo and John H K. I'm not holding my breath.

41 posted on 03/13/2003 9:05:54 AM PST by Pres Raygun
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To: savedbygrace
By the way, a Motion for Summary Judgment is a very significant pleading. Any failure to respond can and usually does result in a ruling in favor of the movants)in this case the Sanders'.)
42 posted on 03/13/2003 9:06:11 AM PST by opinion8r
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To: InterceptPoint
It won't even be reported.

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.,"
Attributed to Mark Twain

43 posted on 03/13/2003 9:10:07 AM PST by thinktwice
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To: John H K

It's as you describe and more.

These Sanders folks should change their name, officially, to Scammers. The book, much of which was posted on the net, is ridiculous hyperbole. Any pilot with more than 5 hours flight time knew it was BS from chapter 3.

Not only that, even after being convicted, and convicted quickly, by a jury of their peers, they still say it's all a government plot to get them.

They are liars and thieves, but they are even worse too.

This is all nothing more than attempt by WND to sell their BS book. 200+ Americans died on that plane, but these scum Sanders types are willing to knowingly lie to the other 270,000,000 of us to try to drain some blood money from the corpses of the dead.

I have been a reporter for years and it's people like this who give our profession a bad name. #1, they put out BS for profit, #2, they claim their so-called journalistic status gives them a right to steal.

It's hard enough for young reporters to get the facts straight when they come out of J schools with liberal mush filling their brains. People like these two only make it harder.

44 posted on 03/13/2003 9:11:46 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: opinion8r
I am a lawyer. The legal effect of NOT responding to a Motion for Summary Judgement is to Admit to the allegations contained in the underlying complaint. That is what WND was saying.

The effect of not responding to a Rule 56.1 motion is to concede the issues raised in the motion. Notice how WND didn't actually tell us what those issues were? That's what I was saying.

45 posted on 03/13/2003 9:12:44 AM PST by mlo
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To: Joe Brower
Article is , IMO, a draft that a presstitute writes then gets 200 or so freepers to proof read for him free of charge.... so they can present it , trash it or start over with key points as suggested by the Freeper "proof reading" crowd.. This text is about 1% flight 800 and 99% contempt of presstitute whine .

Stay Safe !

46 posted on 03/13/2003 9:12:52 AM PST by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: opinion8r
Let's see the motion and the order before we accept anything from Wierd News Delivery
47 posted on 03/13/2003 9:13:14 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: All
I'm reading a lot of smack-talk about conspiracy theorists and loons willing to "believe anything". What seems to have been missed is that the motion for summary judgement went unchallenged. I don't believe the judge can deny the motion if the opposing side doesn't even offer up a defense, in effect an objection.

Now, I would agree that the implications of what the government actually aquiessed to may be up in the air, but the Sander's motion should sail through.

I can't imagine anyone not challenging the Sander's motion if they thought it was unwarranted. This seems to place a number of people in jeopardy of litigation and or the destruction of their carreers.

It could also open them up to criminal prosecution.

Dare I say that all of a sudden the conspiratorial mantle has just shifted to those who have believed the government's lies all along?

And might I add, where is _Jim anyway. Isn't he on duty?

48 posted on 03/13/2003 9:14:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: Scholastic
Just a note to all those attributing this article to "conspiracy theorists".

I know Jack Cashill, and I trust his judgement and commitment to this investigation. He has been there from the start.
Policy and procedure for an air crash is for NTSB to be the "initial and primary" investigating agency.
Upon discovery of evidence indicating criminal activities involving the cause of the crash, FBI or relevent agency takes over.
This is NOT what occurred. FBI took over the crash investigation from the git-go. NTSB was shouldered out, and placed in a subsidiary position, without evidence of criminal or terrorist activity.

If TWA 800 was, in fact, a "mechanical failure", then why is information / evidence still being held under "national security" grounds from public scrutiny?
The only relevent grounds for withholding said evidence is if there is an actual national security consideration, i.e., criminal or terrorist activity involved in the cause of the crash.

Lastly, how come when a Federal Prosecutor claims "no contest" to allegations, it's simply because those claims are too silly to be believed, but when O.J. Simpson claims "no contest" to allegations of wife beating, it's just a legal maneuver to avoid pleading guilty?
In the eyes of the court, no contest is the same as guilty.

All of You Government Abuse Apologists know it.

49 posted on 03/13/2003 9:16:00 AM PST by Drammach
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50 posted on 03/13/2003 9:17:23 AM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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