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Flight 800: Breakthrough!
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 13, 2003 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/13/2003 8:06:41 AM PST by Scholastic

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To: opinion8r
I am a lawyer. The legal effect of NOT responding to a Motion for Summary Judgement is to Admit to the allegations contained in the underlying complaint. That is what WND was saying.

It appears that some apologies are in order from non-lawyers, mlo and John H K. I'm not holding my breath.

41 posted on 03/13/2003 9:05:54 AM PST by Pres Raygun
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To: savedbygrace
By the way, a Motion for Summary Judgment is a very significant pleading. Any failure to respond can and usually does result in a ruling in favor of the movants)in this case the Sanders'.)
42 posted on 03/13/2003 9:06:11 AM PST by opinion8r
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To: InterceptPoint
It won't even be reported.

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.,"
Attributed to Mark Twain

43 posted on 03/13/2003 9:10:07 AM PST by thinktwice
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To: John H K

It's as you describe and more.

These Sanders folks should change their name, officially, to Scammers. The book, much of which was posted on the net, is ridiculous hyperbole. Any pilot with more than 5 hours flight time knew it was BS from chapter 3.

Not only that, even after being convicted, and convicted quickly, by a jury of their peers, they still say it's all a government plot to get them.

They are liars and thieves, but they are even worse too.

This is all nothing more than attempt by WND to sell their BS book. 200+ Americans died on that plane, but these scum Sanders types are willing to knowingly lie to the other 270,000,000 of us to try to drain some blood money from the corpses of the dead.

I have been a reporter for years and it's people like this who give our profession a bad name. #1, they put out BS for profit, #2, they claim their so-called journalistic status gives them a right to steal.

It's hard enough for young reporters to get the facts straight when they come out of J schools with liberal mush filling their brains. People like these two only make it harder.

44 posted on 03/13/2003 9:11:46 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: opinion8r
I am a lawyer. The legal effect of NOT responding to a Motion for Summary Judgement is to Admit to the allegations contained in the underlying complaint. That is what WND was saying.

The effect of not responding to a Rule 56.1 motion is to concede the issues raised in the motion. Notice how WND didn't actually tell us what those issues were? That's what I was saying.

45 posted on 03/13/2003 9:12:44 AM PST by mlo
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To: Joe Brower
Article is , IMO, a draft that a presstitute writes then gets 200 or so freepers to proof read for him free of charge.... so they can present it , trash it or start over with key points as suggested by the Freeper "proof reading" crowd.. This text is about 1% flight 800 and 99% contempt of presstitute whine .

Stay Safe !

46 posted on 03/13/2003 9:12:52 AM PST by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: opinion8r
Let's see the motion and the order before we accept anything from Wierd News Delivery
47 posted on 03/13/2003 9:13:14 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: All
I'm reading a lot of smack-talk about conspiracy theorists and loons willing to "believe anything". What seems to have been missed is that the motion for summary judgement went unchallenged. I don't believe the judge can deny the motion if the opposing side doesn't even offer up a defense, in effect an objection.

Now, I would agree that the implications of what the government actually aquiessed to may be up in the air, but the Sander's motion should sail through.

I can't imagine anyone not challenging the Sander's motion if they thought it was unwarranted. This seems to place a number of people in jeopardy of litigation and or the destruction of their carreers.

It could also open them up to criminal prosecution.

Dare I say that all of a sudden the conspiratorial mantle has just shifted to those who have believed the government's lies all along?

And might I add, where is _Jim anyway. Isn't he on duty?

48 posted on 03/13/2003 9:14:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: Scholastic
Just a note to all those attributing this article to "conspiracy theorists".

I know Jack Cashill, and I trust his judgement and commitment to this investigation. He has been there from the start.
Policy and procedure for an air crash is for NTSB to be the "initial and primary" investigating agency.
Upon discovery of evidence indicating criminal activities involving the cause of the crash, FBI or relevent agency takes over.
This is NOT what occurred. FBI took over the crash investigation from the git-go. NTSB was shouldered out, and placed in a subsidiary position, without evidence of criminal or terrorist activity.

If TWA 800 was, in fact, a "mechanical failure", then why is information / evidence still being held under "national security" grounds from public scrutiny?
The only relevent grounds for withholding said evidence is if there is an actual national security consideration, i.e., criminal or terrorist activity involved in the cause of the crash.

Lastly, how come when a Federal Prosecutor claims "no contest" to allegations, it's simply because those claims are too silly to be believed, but when O.J. Simpson claims "no contest" to allegations of wife beating, it's just a legal maneuver to avoid pleading guilty?
In the eyes of the court, no contest is the same as guilty.

All of You Government Abuse Apologists know it.

49 posted on 03/13/2003 9:16:00 AM PST by Drammach
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50 posted on 03/13/2003 9:17:23 AM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: mr.pink
I'm a big fan of the President, but he will abide by Presidential protocol and not open any cobwebbed doors containing skeletons of previous admins.

Bubba not only realizes this, but rubs Bush's nose in it.

You're probably right but I'm holding out hope that Bush may open this can of worms for 3 reasons: 1. It is a small step in the right direction to show that the Clinton administration/Reno Justice dep't actively thwarted an investigation into a probable terrorist act. 2. To concede Sanders' points shows the Ashcroft Justice department is cleaning house and reforming (even if they really aren't) and 3. Bubba has not kept up his end of the bargain to keep his trap shut as former presidents used to do.

51 posted on 03/13/2003 9:17:32 AM PST by NEPA
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To: MindBender26
I have been a reporter for years and it's people like this who give our profession a bad name.

Ambiguity of the day ... from a "journalist."

52 posted on 03/13/2003 9:20:27 AM PST by thinktwice
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To: Scholastic
How does a failure to respond equate the conlusion that there is truth or admission ?
53 posted on 03/13/2003 9:20:42 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Pres Raygun
Yes it does and no you shouldn't. We could arrest the perps and execute them and some people would still defend Khalstrom and the other jackasses.
54 posted on 03/13/2003 9:23:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: ACross
Hmm... Maybe I should initiate a conspiracy... after all, using your logic, there is no such thing, and anyone who accused me would automatically be relegated to the ranks of the insane. Is that your point? That there's no such thing as a conspiracy? Can you say "Watergate?"
55 posted on 03/13/2003 9:23:46 AM PST by jim35
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To: thinktwice
What is your point?
56 posted on 03/13/2003 9:24:16 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: Go Gordon
What the suit failes to expose again (at least by appearances), is that the perposterous "center fuel tank" fantasy was a fictional concoction from the get go, without a single thread of evidence or justification.
57 posted on 03/13/2003 9:25:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: jim35
Why go that far back? Can you say 900+ FBI files?
58 posted on 03/13/2003 9:28:20 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Are you going Freeps Ahoy! Don't miss the boat. Er ship...)
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To: Drammach
It is beyond time to track down those who ordered the lies.

This has always been apalling. My own brother is friends with a man who stood in complete puzzlement as he WATCHED a train of what is probably a missile climb into the path of the plane.

The folks who saw this happen have been so shut down and discounted it is hurtful.

I pray this cracks open and those involved in the cover-up are brought forward.

If only every single surviving member of those murdered on this flight had access to the above article.

59 posted on 03/13/2003 9:28:22 AM PST by Republic (tommy daschle is a WEASEL OF MASS DISTORTION (tractorman)-so truthful, it almost HURTS!)
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To: NEPA
to show that the Clinton administration/Reno Justice dep't actively thwarted an investigation

Funny, that's one reason I would expect GWB to leave it alone. The same goes for your #3. He seems to take great pains to ensure no one has any grounds for accusing him of a personal attack on Bubba & Co. I suspect Bubba knows it and takes great pleasure in it. It's a fundamental difference between most Ds and most Rs, and the worst of the Ds exploit it at every turn.

Your #2 might be a good reason but, I seriously doubt it's enough to persuade him to open it.

Even if GWB is very interested to know whether TWA 800 was an act of terrorism, that is a separate issue from whether We The People "need" or "deserve" to know the same at this juncture.

60 posted on 03/13/2003 9:31:12 AM PST by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a true capitalist!)
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