TRANSCRIPT: Senator Rick Santorum and Senator Hillary Clinton discussing Partial Birth Abortion

Thomas ^ | 03-13-03 | Senate

[american colleen]

Ping for later reading. Thank you so much.

[Sacajaweau]

Let Hillary tell that "sitting across from the doctor" story to our NY Bills Football Player (Jim???) with the little boy who has a serious disease. That family is putting their money on eradicating the disease. Hillary eradicates the baby!!!

[SoothingDave]

Jim Kelly, it is. Western PA native, like Santorum.

you have hit on the exact point, which is where genetic research and such is leading. Long before we have a cure for birth defects, we will have the "solution." Identify them in the womb and eradicate the "imperfect."

Of course, as that progresses, the definition of "imperfect" becomes more broad, and the pressure to "design" your offspring comes in.

Why would you burden society and yourself by bringing a child with a disability in to the world?

SD

[Kudsman]

bttt

[truthkeeper]

This one should be bumped forever. Rick Santorum was nothing less than magnificent.

[NYer]

Thanks for the bump, Maeve!!

I refer the Senator to the State of Kansas where they have to report the reason for a partial-birth abortion; 182 were done last year, or the year before, and of those 182, none--zero--were done because of a problem with the child or a physical problem with the mother. They were classified as mental health.

Herein lies the truth!! It is quite common for politicians, be they at the state or federal level, to drag in the one exception, to justify their position. Senator Santorum cited factual statistics. I once dated a very wonderful guy with a cleft palate. To think that someone would choose to abort their baby for this reason, is criminal. This needs to be reflected in our laws.

Truly frightening, however, is a case in France. Last year, a disabled person sued the state for not allowing him to be aborted. And, he won. Now that is sick!!!

[Raymond Hendrix]

bump

[Registered]

Add this to your pro-life files...

[dougiefresh]

Why don't the supports of "partial Birth" abortion just persuade the mother to have a c-section or be induced. The fetus can survive on it's own at that stage.

[DoughtyOne]

[hellinahandcart]

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[Antoninus]

Rick is one of the elite good guys. So glad I sent him $100 when he ran in 1996....

[Aquinasfan]

 Mr. SANTORUM. I certainly respect the difference of opinion the Senator and I have on the underlying issue of abortion. Again, I think people can disagree on that. I, frankly, do not agree there should be a difference between children who are ``normal,'' in society's eyes--I do not know what that means anymore, what a society sees as normal--and those who happen to have birth defects, severe or not. I do not believe we should draw distinctions.

   Mrs. CLINTON. If the Senator will yield for one final point, I want the RECORD to be very clear that I value every single life and every single person,

Unfortunately for her, she had just demonstrated that she did not. Santorum nailed her.

[Aquinasfan]

I think he should run for President in 2008.

Seconded.

[SoothingDave]

Mrs. CLINTON. If the Senator will yield for one final point, I want the RECORD to be very clear that I value every single life and every single person,

Unfortunately for her, she had just demonstrated that she did not. Santorum nailed her.

The record is clear. It's also clear that Mrs. Clinton doesn't consider the fetus-in-question to be either a "life" or a "person." So her statement is technically true, to her at least.

SD

[SoothingDave]

I think he should run for President in 2008.

Seconded.

I would love to see it, but he'll get tarred as bring too "extreme."

What puzzles me is the existence of Pennsylvanians who went in to the voting booth in 2000 and voted for Santorum and Gore.

SD

[RnMomof7]

I really believe that the reason for the decline of NYS is its fpromotion of infant muder and preversion..I await the fire and brimstone..Thanks for the transcript I missed it on TV

[RnMomof7]

   Mr. SANTORUM. Please, let me finish. If a child is not perfect, then that child can be aborted under any circumstances. But if that child is perfect, we are going to protect that child more. I do not think the Americans with Disabilities Act would fit very well into that definition. The Americans with Disabilities Act--of which I know the Senator from Iowa has been a great advocate, and I respect him greatly for it--says we treat all of God's children the same. We look at all--perfect and imperfect--as creatures of God created in his image.

   What the Senator from New York is asking me to do is separate those who are somehow not the way our society sees people as they should be today and put them somewhat a peg below legal protection than the perfect child. I hope the Senator is not recommending that because I think that would set a horrible precedent that could be extrapolated, I know probably to the disgust of the Senator from Iowa, certainly to me.

Priceless God bless Rick

[mabelkitty]

Any word yet on a video of this?