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Mask, Gun: Check. Bullets: ....Not So Fast
St. Petersburg Times | March 13, 2003 | Wes Allison

Posted on 03/14/2003 8:38:10 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen

CAMP UDAIRI, Kuwait -- This may surprise the folks back home, but the U.S. Army forces massing across the Iraqi border are largely unarmed.

Even though all U.S. soldiers deployed to the six main Army camps in northern Kuwait must carry their rifles at all times -- even to the latrine in the middle of the night -- few are carrying any bullets.

This is not an oversight, or a lame-brained cost-saving measure ordered by the Pentagon, or an indication that American military leaders believe they can take Iraq without firing a shot.

Rather, it's an effort to stave off the sad inevitable: Once the Army starts issuing ammo en masse, soldiers will accidentally shoot themselves and each other.

Those who served in Afghanistan, Desert Storm and other conflicts can attest to it.

At Wednesday's morning briefing at Camp Udairi, American leaders were told that four soldiers in the British sector were injured when one of their rifles accidentally discharged.

Last week, a U.S. Marine was shot in the neck by an officer who was cleaning his pistol in another tent. He survived but required major surgery, doctors said.

Officers say the safety risk far outweighs the security risk.

"We may be rolling the dice, but I can guarantee that you're not going to have any large forces rolling across the border and over-running our camp," said Maj. Spencer Smith, a logistics coordinator for the 101st Airborne Division.

In the meantime, the soldiers patrolling the perimeter and the sentinels have all the rounds they could ever need. The Apache and Black Hawk helicopters patrolling the skies above the camps can quickly bring a hellstorm of cannon and missile fire on any approaching enemy, and Patriot missile batteries stand ready to shoot down any Iraqi Scud missiles.

Smith and others couldn't recall a combat deployment where the bulk of troops remained without bullets for so long. Some got here in December, although most of the 101st Airborne arrived about 10 days ago.

Many soldiers say they feel silly carrying empty guns.

"If something kicks up, we're s--- out of luck," said Pfc. Jessica Ruth, 19, of Florence, S.C., supply clerk in the Division Supply Command of the 101st Airborne.

At the same time, she said, "I don't feel comfortable with (ammo) because we got some careless people around here."

On base, it's easy to tell which soldiers are ready for ammunition. Infantrymen -- who have been given some bullets -- and former infantrymen wield their weapons as deftly as a chef handles a knife and saute pan. The M-4 rifle is the tool of their trade, and they practice with it for hours a day. It is an extension of themselves.

But even in the Airborne, the famously aggressive combat unit from Fort Campbell, Ky., and in the 3rd Infantry Division of Fort Stewart, Ga., many support personnel lack that fluidity and comfort with guns.

For some, the rifle is like a third arm, awkward and heavy and forever in the way. They drop it, or leave it behind, or use it as a tool.

They lean it against a cot or a tent post, then knock it over, sending it clattering to the plywood tent floor. They forget about it when they turn around in the tent, bonking their buddies with the barrel or butt.

Early this week, a private was reprimanded for using her gun barrel as a pry bar while she was assembling the aluminum frame of cot.

"No, no, no," her sergeant barked. "What are you thinking?"

In Afghanistan, medics with the 101st Airborne treated three soldiers who were inadvertently shot by their friends, including an engineer who lost the lower half of one leg, said Sgt. 1st Class Jesse Carabajal, 39, a senior medic who deployed to Afghanistan, and is now serving in Kuwait.

One night as Carabajal and other medics lounged in their tent, a bullet whizzed through the canvas and struck a center support poll, then ricocheted through the roof. A soldier in the tent next door had fired his gun accidentally while cleaning it.

The M-4 rifle that is the standard weapon of the U.S. Army soldier these days is a shorter, lighter, more maneuverable version of the M-16. It carries a magazine with 30 5.56-millimeter rounds.

Officers also carry 9mm pistols, and each squad has an M-249 machine gun. Many infantry platoons carry a heavier M-60 machine gun as well.

Accidental discharges, as the Army calls them, typically occur in a war zone while a soldier is cleaning an M-4 or a pistol, or while "clearing" it -- that is, removing the magazine, emptying the chamber and pulling the trigger.

Each day, every soldier must disassemble the firing mechanism -- including the bolt, the firing pin and a large spring -- and wipe out the grime inside.

This keeps the gun firing smoothly, and is especially important in the desert, where sand and dust infiltrate every moving part. After cleaning and reassembling the gun, the soldier then must pull the trigger, listening for the comforting "click" of the firing pin.

Only then should the soldier re-insert the magazine. Unfortunately, soldiers sometimes confuse the steps, and insert the magazine before they check the trigger, Carabajal said.

"I'm scared, like everybody else, of getting shot accidentally by another soldier," Carabajal said. "It happens. Hopefully it won't, but it's happened everywhere we've gone."

Meanwhile, U.S. troops at Udairi on Wednesday received an unwelcome order: They must now wear "full battle rattle," minus the Kevlar flak vests, whenever they leave the tents.

That means carrying gas mask, biochemical protective suit and weapons, and wearing helmet and the heavy load-bearing vest, where most soldiers carry essential battle items such as canteens, a compass, and pressure dressing.

And ammunition, if they had any.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: campudairi; embeddedreportii; embeddedrptii
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1 posted on 03/14/2003 8:38:10 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
What stops a soldier from carrying an extra bullet (aquired with his own money) or two for self protection "just in case"?
2 posted on 03/14/2003 8:49:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Stand Watch Listen
a private was reprimanded for using her gun barrel as a pry bar

Leads me to believe they are afraid to issue bayonets also.

3 posted on 03/14/2003 8:57:27 AM PST by razorback-bert (Beer math is 2 beers X 37 soldiers = 49 cases.)
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To: harpseal; Travis McGee; Squantos; sneakypete; Chapita
On futther thought, why are they issuing cooks weapons?
4 posted on 03/14/2003 8:59:42 AM PST by razorback-bert (Beer math is 2 beers X 37 soldiers = 49 cases.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
> Unfortunately, soldiers sometimes confuse the steps,
> and insert the magazine before they check the trigger...

This is what results from a populace unfamiliar with
firearms. A remarkable number of people think that
inserting a magazine in a semi-auto makes it ready to
fire (pull the trigger, get a bang). Whereas, in fact,
nothing happens until a round is chambered (moved from
the mag).

Conversely, even if the bolt/slide is operated, and a
round chambered and ready, these same people think the
weapon is safe as long as the magazine is removed - and
unless the weapon has a magazine safety, the next event
usually winds up in the newspapers.

These sorts of accidents are astonishing in the military,
but they apparently do happen, and have been happening
since 1911 or so. I recall a story that at on point during
the Vietnam war, all the M1911 .45 autos were confiscated
from the troops, because they were having way too many
"cleaning" casualties and other accidents resulting from
auto-ignorance.
5 posted on 03/14/2003 9:02:48 AM PST by Boundless
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To: Stand Watch Listen
My kids were safer than this when they were pre-teens. Is it we have generation of soldiers who never saw a weapon before basic training? I was hoping this post was a joke. If a soldier is issued a weapon they should be trained and drilled and trained and drilled in it's proper use. Who is running the military? Is this carry over from Clinton's cut back and slash the military for 8 years? SAD :(
6 posted on 03/14/2003 9:03:47 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: razorback-bert
Go ahead - correct my typos I'll make more!
7 posted on 03/14/2003 9:05:52 AM PST by razorback-bert (Beer math is 2 beers X 37 soldiers = 49 cases.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
They have a self-fullfilling prophecy going on here. If the guns aren't loaded, they don't have to treat them like loaded guns.
8 posted on 03/14/2003 9:06:10 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Posted earlier here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/864571/posts
9 posted on 03/14/2003 9:10:09 AM PST by SLB
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To: longtermmemmory
Nothing, unless you consider the UCMJ! Blackbird.
10 posted on 03/14/2003 9:17:28 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: HairOfTheDog
They have a self-fullfilling prophecy going on here. If the guns aren't loaded, they don't have to treat them like loaded guns.

BINGO! I think we have a winner! Good catch, HotD. I think you've nailed it.

11 posted on 03/14/2003 9:26:54 AM PST by Bob
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good point I taught my kids that the gun is always loaded. Even when the slide is back the clip is out and a cleaning rod is in the barrel with the brush in the chamber don't
point at anything you don't plan to shoot.
12 posted on 03/14/2003 9:29:19 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: razorback-bert
On futther thought, why are they issuing cooks weapons

So they can have their pictures taken in the dessert with their weapons. Come on you knew that one.

13 posted on 03/14/2003 9:32:55 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Bob
Well, people don't do unnecessary things just to have good habits. My gun is *always* loaded, so it is always treated like like a weapon. But if I had to carry it unloaded everywhere I went for months, when the gun is just pretend, I would fear for my own loss of good habits.
14 posted on 03/14/2003 9:36:00 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
good point...
it's not a gun... it's a crowbar, a shoulder prop... a toy...
15 posted on 03/14/2003 9:41:03 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: razorback-bert
Hell, I was a MECHANIC and had an M-16.

You issue the rifle to ALL the troops. Believe it or not, self-defense rights extend to all military personnel in combat zones.
16 posted on 03/14/2003 9:46:38 AM PST by ninenot
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To: harpseal
Al Gore's gun safety comes to mind now.

Nothing new here.
17 posted on 03/14/2003 9:49:27 AM PST by razorback-bert (Beer math is 2 beers X 37 soldiers = 49 cases.)
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To: Boundless
#2 banana in the Milwaukee FBI office shot himself while cleaining his Glock only last year. Thigh wound, no big--but it's a warning to the wise.
18 posted on 03/14/2003 9:49:38 AM PST by ninenot
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To: razorback-bert
Hey a good cook can make a combat tour a whole lot more friendly. So they need souveniers to send home too. The other reason is sappers inside the wire.
19 posted on 03/14/2003 9:51:35 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Flurry
You are correct. Most of these city kids have NEVER seen a rifle, shotgun, or pistol before BCT started, and obviously didn't learn too much during BCT, either.

I can't say there were NO accidents while I was in the Army--but there were damn few, if any. DI's and range officers were absolutely GONZO on the safety question.
20 posted on 03/14/2003 9:52:45 AM PST by ninenot
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