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To: Abar
Wednesday morning I called Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). Last week Hooper and I had words on MSNBC’s Nachman show about the propriety of the FBI investigating mosques, and I wanted to get his reaction to new allegations that the al-Farooq mosque in Brooklyn has been a chief source of funding for al-Qaeda.

But Mr. Hooper wouldn’t tell me what he thought. Without allowing me to ask my question, he just said, "I have no interest in promoting the anti-Muslim agenda of you or FrontPage Magazine," and hung up.

Now, I know that tempers are boiling over in today’s tense political climate. But CAIR would be able to gain a better hearing for its new campaign to "foster greater understanding of Islam" if its spokesmen engaged the organization’s political opponents honestly, instead of smearing their positions and indulging in juvenile displays. This is especially true in these days of national crisis. Americans have legitimate questions about CAIR and Islamic radicalism that Hooper and Co. has so far refused to answer, preferring instead to resort to ad hominem attacks upon those who raise the questions.

But the questions aren’t going away. Ibrahim Hooper won’t answer them, but he can’t bury them:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6546
4 posted on 03/14/2003 9:01:56 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: TLBSHOW
Is Hooper a convert, or what? Is there a known biography available?
6 posted on 03/14/2003 9:24:27 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: TLBSHOW
Speaking strictly as an infidel, let me say....... It is common knowledge what the Koran preaches about us infidels (and Jews). It is also commonly known that the "Arab street", as well as the vast majority of Muslims, hate the infidels.

What truly amazes me is this stupid and dangerous belief that when these people come to live or visit America, they magically love us and add to our diversity with their religeon of peace views.

7 posted on 03/14/2003 9:27:01 PM PST by umgud (War determines who is left, not who is right)
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To: TLBSHOW
You seem to be knowledgeable in things muslim, why do you suppose so many muslims have settled here in Michigan? The Detroit area seems to be overrun. Our climate is not all that similar to their mideast. Could it be the fresh water of the Great Lakes? I'm puzzled.
11 posted on 03/15/2003 3:09:28 AM PST by exnavy
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To: TLBSHOW
Ibrahim Hooper won’t answer them, but he can’t bury them

The following is necessarily Ibrahim Hooper's authoritative answer:

Medina Suras
The Chapter of Women
[Chapters from the Koran]
The Harvard Classics 1909–14

But if there befalls you grace from God, he would say—as though there were no friendship between you and him—‘O would that I had been with thee to attain this mighty happiness!’ Let those then fight in God’s way who sell this life of the world for the next; and whoso fights in God’s way, then, be he killed or be he victorious, we will give him a mighty hire.

What ails you that ye do not fight in God’s way, and for the weak men and women and children, who say, ‘Lord, bring us out of this town 19 of oppressive folk, and make for us from Thee a patron, and make for us from Thee a help?’

Those who believe fight in the way of God; and those who disbelieve fight in the way of Tâghût; fight ye then against the friends of Satan, verily, Satan’s tricks are weak.

Do ye not see those to whom it is said, ‘Restrain your hands, and be steadfast in prayer and give alms;’ and when it is prescribed for them to fight then a band of them fear men, as though it were the fear of God or a still stronger fear, and they say, ‘O our Lord! why hast thou prescribed for us to fight, couldst thou not let us abide till our near appointed time?’ Say, ‘The enjoyment of this world is but slight, and the next is better for him who fears;’—but they shall not be wronged a straw.

...

Why are ye two parties about the hypocrites, when God hath overturned them for what they earned? Do ye wish to guide those whom God hath led astray? Whoso God hath led astray ye shall not surely find for him a path. They would fain that ye misbelieve as they misbelieve, that ye might be alike; take ye not patrons from among them until they too flee in God’s way; but if they turn their backs, then seize them and kill them wheresoever ye find them, and take from them neither patron nor help,—save those who reach a people betwixt whom and you is an alliance—or who come to you while their bosoms prevent them from fighting you or fighting their own people. But had God pleased He would have given you dominion over them, and they would surely have fought you. But if they retire from you and do not fight you, and offer you peace,—then God hath given you no way against them.

Ye will find others who seek for quarter from you, and quarter from their own people; whenever they return to sedition they shall be overturned therein: but if they retire not from you, nor offer you peace, nor restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wheresoever ye find them;—over these we have made for you manifest power.


19 posted on 03/15/2003 6:17:03 AM PST by SlickWillard
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To: TLBSHOW
Good for you. When the blood money trail from this country to Islamofacists/kazis and to this country gets exposed, we see a lot of top CAIR people involved.
30 posted on 03/15/2003 7:30:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: MarMema; TLBSHOW; Grampa Dave; JohnathanRGalt; Libertina; sheik yerbouty; Mad_Tom_Rackham; ...
More on this particular terror cell:

Prosecutors said yesterday that a computer which Al-Hussayen used had thousands of photographs, including the World Trade Center towers before and after the 2001 terrorism attacks.
BOISE, Idaho — A Saudi student accused of visa fraud has ties to two radical sheiks who support violence against the United States and should not be released before trial, federal prosecutors argued today.
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=webstudent12&date=20030312&query=moscow


The government also said Al-Hussayen created or managed at least 14 Web sites that promoted terrorism, the overthrow of the United States and Israel, and the killing of people by suicide missions.
He is past president of the Muslin Student Association
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=idaho27m&date=20030227&query=moscow+leader


Make NO MISTAKE about it... CAIR, AMC, MSA, et al are MUSLIM TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS that must be excised from our country!

34 posted on 03/15/2003 3:54:45 PM PST by Abar
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