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AMERICAN PROTESTER KILLED
FOX NEWS | 3-16-03 | SELF

Posted on 03/16/2003 8:21:13 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo

American protester run over by an Israeli bulldozer in Gaza and killed. Developing...


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To: what i think
some people here should be ashamed of themselves. they are no better than the ones that danced and laughed at us on 9-11.

Ah, so what we are fighting for is not what makes us "better," it's what we are thinking about or how we feel about the fighting that makes us "better." Bull crap. I want my enemies dead, and I'm not made morally superior by regretting that they must die.

321 posted on 03/16/2003 1:14:56 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: It's me
Students in China were peacefully protesting for some freedom.

Student in Gaza was supporting terrorists and those that harbor them.

Moral equivalency? I think not.
322 posted on 03/16/2003 1:16:06 PM PST by Stopislamnow (Because tomorrow we'll all be dead and won't be able to)
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To: It's me
The FReeper respect for life is still there. It is just tempered by 3000 American deaths on 9-11.

Payback is a bitch, deal with it.
323 posted on 03/16/2003 1:18:33 PM PST by Mr_Magoo
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To: JoeSixPack1
Eh, who knows? The parents could be freepers for all we know, but the woman was an adult and made a bad decision. Her parents and friends will now idolize her for taking a stand.

True enough, which is why I also mentioned the education system. Living here in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Seattle, and knowing what kind of school Evergreen State College and most high schools and grade school ideologies are, I still maintain a child is only a product of what they are taught to believe. There are millions of examples in this country of proper upbringing with a balanced set of views. Tragically, she seemed to have had only one type of influence in her life. and she paid dearly for it. To me her blood is still on her parents and educators hands. Of course you're right, they will all remain in denial and idolize her. Sad.

324 posted on 03/16/2003 1:20:23 PM PST by ProudEagle
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To: isthisnickcool
As for myself, I'll save my own morbid sense of humor to the death of people like Bin Laden and his kind.

An old man walks into a tavern and sees a hot blonde sitting up at the bar having a drink. He comes up to her and says, "Hey, honey, if I paid you 10 million dollars, would you spend the night with me?"

The blonde thinks it over and confesses that yes, for $10 million, she would.

The old man pulls out a couple twenties and says "Will you do it for $40?"

Indignantly she replies, "What kind of woman do you think I am?"

He says, "Oh, we've already established that, ma'am. Now we're just haggling over the price."

If you can find someone you consider evil enough that you'll rejoice upon their death, you really have no moral stance for deciding that where we draw that line is wrong, but where you draw it is right. This woman has stood with people who have murdered hundreds of innocent civilians. How is she better than those who stand with bin Laden?

325 posted on 03/16/2003 1:27:16 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: Delta 21
From her letter posted on indymedia:
http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/israel/webcast/49379.html

"my love to everyone. my love to my mom. my love to the cult formerly known as local knowledge program. my love to smooch. my love to fg and barnhair and sesamees and lincoln school. my love to olympia."

The Evergreen State College Local Knowlege Program:
http://www.evergreen.edu/washcenter/Fall2002p31-34.pdf

Anne Fischel and Lin Nelson
The Evergreen State College
326 posted on 03/16/2003 1:27:56 PM PST by Liberty Reigns
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To: isthisnickcool
She likely has a family and people that love her. A mom and dad. As a father I weep for her parents.

Is this how you would have greeted the news of the death of Adolph Hitler or Joseph Stalin?

ML/NJ

327 posted on 03/16/2003 1:28:38 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
They'll probably burn Bush in effigy (again, for the thousandth time) ...

Ooo, here's an opportunity to make money AND do the country a service. Picture this: Bush effigies, $25 each! (And they explode when ignited!) LOL!!

328 posted on 03/16/2003 1:29:51 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: It's me
I am sickened by all of the comments of glee on this board. It really embarrases me when I defend Free Republic to people who claim it is full of "right-wing-guncrazy-bloodthirsty-uncaring-nutters".

What really sickens me is that people are blaming her parents for not "teaching her right".

I guess all the parents on this thread have never had a child that drove a vehicle over the legal intoxication limit....or their child never rode with a legally-intoxicated friend behind the wheel. Or any other sort of stupid, dangerous behaviour.

I'm so glad that FR is full of perfect parents with perfect children.

329 posted on 03/16/2003 1:32:52 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: HennepinPrisoner
That's true, everybody. If your child does something stupid, really, really stupid, it's your fault, right? Oh, oh, I'm sorry, that only goes for the liberals.

Your right, Hen, all us Freepers are perfect parents and all have children who are perfect.
330 posted on 03/16/2003 1:36:34 PM PST by It's me (, not you)
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To: HennepinPrisoner
Those parents share in the complicity. They paid for the school she went to. And like others have pointed out, they probably paid for her transportation and living expenses over there. When it comes right down to it, every nut like this - when the truth is know - is proven to have not fallen far from the parental tree.

Sure, not all kids (or parents) are perfect, but that's a whole different ball game than what this girl has been doing for a long time now. She just finally got "caught", that's all - and paid the extreme penalty.
331 posted on 03/16/2003 1:38:43 PM PST by JudyB1938 (It's a wild world. There's a lot of bad and beware.)
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To: EYEWatchin
"suicide-by-dozer"
332 posted on 03/16/2003 1:40:13 PM PST by aeronca
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To: steverino62
I pray we as a nation will never come to this extremity but fear that an American Pinochet will ultimately have to put these people down in order that some semblance of republicanism (small "r") may survive.

Okay, now you are getting a bit scary on us. I hope you were only being rhetorical.

There is no way in hell I will ever support resorting to Chilean style killing squads taking out United States citizens because they do not take my political stand.

That is a recipe for the total distruction and ending of America as we know it. You do NOT want to open that Pandora's Box.

If we are too lazy or too stupid to have our ideals and our values win the political battles, then we do not deserve to be in power.

If our ideals and values are not strong enough or good enough to be accepted by the majority of people, then no amount of killing will ever keep them present.

What you have suggested goes against everything my father has ever taught me about what makes America great.

333 posted on 03/16/2003 1:40:37 PM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Knuckle Sandwich Combo
It's worth remembering the behavior of the Evergreen State students a few years back at an appearance by Daniel Faulkner's widow (she made so by Mumia). Wearing masks to hide their cowardly faces, they screamed at her that her husband was "a pig" and that "he deserved to die." Now of course this was a just a handful of students, not representative of Evergreen students in general.... right?

Let's see, am I sad that this one's been squished? Lemme check.. ahhh...
ummm...
just a moment....

No.

334 posted on 03/16/2003 1:47:32 PM PST by redbaiter
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Good grief. Looks like someone already beat you to it.
335 posted on 03/16/2003 1:48:22 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Look! Birch trees!!!")
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To: It's me
That's right. And you all had the same comments after Tianamen Square, right?

No, dear, the people in the tanks were communists. Those are the bad guys, see? Hello? Anybody in there?

336 posted on 03/16/2003 1:49:34 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Jeez...
337 posted on 03/16/2003 1:50:19 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I used to have a friend called Sam Handwich - He was was eaten alive due to a tragic Spoonerism.)
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To: Liberty Reigns
Please Stop!!

I cant take it no more!!

I was reading a paper by one of the Profs there......post 9-11. It sounds like this place took 9-11 seriously, but being this misguided, something bad was bound to happen. Its a sad statement on the condition of the Intitutions of Higher Learning in this country. I had to stop reading...I was getting a CNN flashback.

338 posted on 03/16/2003 1:57:06 PM PST by Delta 21
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To: .38sw
Sure this was a "misguided young woman".

And the terrorists are all "misguided young men and women".

Are we supposed to feel sorry for them?

This woman wanted to stop Israel from getting rid of TERRORISTS.

Would you have preferred that the Israelis stop pursuing the terrorists, and abide by the wishes by these terrorist supporting "misguided young women", and instead allow the terrorists free reign to murder hundreds more Israelis?
339 posted on 03/16/2003 1:57:45 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
No matter how misguided, no matter how stupid, no matter how wrong this young woman is, I'm bothered by the cavalier attitude shown on this board.

She sided with those who did the end zone bob-'n'-weave after 9/11. We're just behaving towards her as she and her allies would have us act.

She was still a human life. She was still an American.

She was an American who was given the full fruits of this wonderful land, and chose to stand with our enemies.

She voluntarily chose to be an enemy of freedom. I will cheerfully gloat over her death. She's more than earned the ridicule.

I'm sad she will never have the opportunity to learn from her mistakes of youth.

Some flavors of mistake are inherently fatal. Nobody held a gun to her head and made her do this.

I would prefer we win by changing minds rather then by seeing them eliminated.

A fine and noble sentiment.

Frankly, I don't see how it's going to happen. I'm beginning to think that we will have a bloody civil war between those who espouse personal liberty and responsibility, and those who espouse collectivism. Every effective that the collectivists lose before Day One of that civil war is one that we won't have to shoot during or immediately after that war.

340 posted on 03/16/2003 1:58:30 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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