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Don't Support Our Troops - (Ted Rall Alert - Barf Assumed)
Syndicated Column ^ | 3/11/03 | Ted Rall (Barf Alert Assumed)

Posted on 03/17/2003 12:56:24 PM PST by gridlock

DON'T SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

Win or Lose, War on Iraq is Wrong

NEW YORK--Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential frontrunner, opposes war with Iraq. Despite this stance, he suggests that Americans should set aside their political differences once the Mother of All Bombs starts blowing up munitions dumps and babies in Baghdad.

"When the war begins, if the war begins," says Kerry, "I support the troops and I support the United States of America winning as rapidly as possible. When the troops are in the field and fighting--if they're in the field and fighting--remembering what it's like to be those troops--I think they need a unified America that is prepared to win."

Fellow presidential candidate Howard Dean, who calls Bush's foreign policy "ghastly" and "appalling," is the Democrats' most vocal opponent of a preemptive strike against Iraq. But once war breaks out, he says, "Of course I'll support the troops."

This is an understandable impulse. As patriots, we want our country to win the wars that we fight. As Americans, we want our soldiers--young men and women who risk too much for too little pay--to come home in one piece. But supporting our troops while they're fighting an immoral and illegal war is misguided and wrong.

An Unjust Cause

Iraq has never attacked, nor threatened to attack, the United States. As his 1990 invasion of Kuwait proved, Saddam is a menace to his neighbors--Saudi Arabia, Iran, Israel--but he's their problem, not ours. Saddam's longest-range missiles only travel 400 miles.

Numerous countries are ruled by unstable megalomaniacs possessing scary weaponry. North Korea has an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of hitting the western United States and, unlike Iraq, the nuke to put inside it. Pakistan, another nuclear power run by a dangerous anti-American dictator, just unveiled its new HATF-4 ballistic missile. If disarmament were Bush's goal, shouldn't those countries--both of which have threatened to use nukes--be higher-priority targets than non-nuclear Iraq?

Iraq isn't part of the war on terrorism. The only link between Iraq and Al Qaeda is the fact that they hate each other's guts. And no matter how often Bush says "9/11" and "Iraq" in the same breath, Saddam had nothing to do with the terror attacks.

That leaves freeing Iraqis from Saddam's repressive rule as the sole rationale for war. Is the U.S. in the liberation business? Will Bush spread democracy to Myamnar, Congo, Turkmenistan, Cambodia, Nigeria, Cuba, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan or Laos, just to name a few places where people can't vote, speak freely or eat much? You be the judge. I wouldn't bet on it.

Of course, it would be great if Iraqis were to overthrow Saddam (assuming that his successor would be an improvement). But regime change is up to the locals, not us. George W. Bush is leading us to commit an ignominious crime, an internationally-unsanctioned invasion of a nation that has done us no harm and presents no imminent threat.

Germans in the 1930s

We find ourselves facing the paradox of the "good German" of the '30s. We're ruled by an evil, non-elected warlord who ignores both domestic opposition and international condemnation. We don't want the soldiers fighting his unjustified wars of expansion to win--but we don't want them to lose either.

Our dilemma is rendered slightly less painful by the all-volunteer nature of our armed forces: at least we aren't being asked to cheer on reluctant draftees. Presumably everybody in uniform knew what they might be in for when they signed up.

"I'm horrified by this war," a friend tells me, "but once it starts we have to win and win quickly." For her, as for Kerry and Dean, our servicemen are people performing a job. They go where the politicians send them.

The thing is, we don't really have to win. Losing the Vietnam War sucked, but not fighting it in the first place would have been smarter. Losing to Third Worlders in PJs led Americans to decades of relative humility, self-examination and taking the moral high ground in conflicts such as Haiti and Kosovo. Our withdrawal from Nam was mainly the result of antiwar protests and public disapproval that swayed our elected representatives. It also saved a lot of money that would otherwise gone to save more "domino" dictatorships from godless communism.

Most Americans who didn't actively protest the war at least sat on their hands during Vietnam. We should do the same during Bush's coming unjust war of aggression. Members of our armed forces don't deserve insults, but their role in this war doesn't merit support. Cheering them as they leave and holding parades when they return would certainly be misinterpreted by citizens of other countries as popular support for an inglorious enterprise--and it would make it easier for Bush to send them off again, to Iran or Libya or wherever. Let's keep our flags under wraps.

I want our troops to return home safely. I want them to live. Like a good German watching my countrymen march into Poland and Belgium and Luxembourg and France, I don't want them to win and I don't want them to lose.

(Ted Rall is the author of "Gas War: The Truth Behind the American Occupation of Afghanistan," an analysis of the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline and the motivations behind the war on terrorism. Ordering information is available at amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com.)

RALL 3/11/03


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: moron; tedrall
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An insight into what motivates the Anti-War left. They look at the current situation, a conflict between the Democratic West and a murderous tyrant with a funny mustache and decide that we are the NAZIs.
1 posted on 03/17/2003 12:56:24 PM PST by gridlock
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To: gridlock
Ted Rall is the author of "Gas War: The Truth Behind the American Occupation of Afghanistan," an analysis of the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline and the motivations behind the war on terrorism.

Oh, yeah, you mean the carefully researched expose that claimed that the Caspian had as much proven reserves as the Persian Gulf - when just ONE country, Saudi Arabia, has over EIGHT times the proven reserves of the Caspian.

Lucky for Rall that the standards for liberal journalism have sunk so low that even an unprofessional hack such as he can make a living doing it.

2 posted on 03/17/2003 12:59:29 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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3 posted on 03/17/2003 12:59:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: gridlock
I agree. This type of rabble should be closely watched for any more signs of foaming at the mouth...
4 posted on 03/17/2003 1:01:21 PM PST by LeftiesBinWhinin
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To: gridlock
but he's their problem, not ours

Hmm, I wonder how he would react to people saying we should close our borders and not allow Mexico's sick and downtrodden into our country. We could say "they're Mexico's problem, not ours" and I wonder how this ultra-maroon would respond?

5 posted on 03/17/2003 1:01:53 PM PST by craig_eddy
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To: gridlock
He does make several points that would be valid if not for the fact that the conflict is about Saddam violating the cease-fire agreement from the original Gulf War.

One of the problems that I see is that a number of people are arguing resons for going to war with Iraq apart from violations of the cease-fire agreement. Unfortunately, Saddam being a "very bad man" isn't justification for this kind of conflict, so such irrelevant issues give ammo to the anti-war crowd who use it to distract from the issue of Saddam's noncompliance.
6 posted on 03/17/2003 1:04:00 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: gridlock
I can't believe I read all of this. I feel like I need a shower.
7 posted on 03/17/2003 1:04:08 PM PST by Aeronaut (This project is so important, we can't let things that are more important interfere with it.)
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To: gridlock
Like a good German watching my countrymen march into Poland and Belgium and Luxembourg and France, I don't want them to win and I don't want them to lose.

If this statement of his doesn't state what liberalism is in a nutshell, I don't know what will.

With a single sentence he demonstrates perfectly that liberals have no convictions; no sense of right or wrong.

8 posted on 03/17/2003 1:11:17 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: gridlock
  
9 posted on 03/17/2003 1:12:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: VeniVidiVici
LOL...RATS're DOLTS...MUD
10 posted on 03/17/2003 1:12:20 PM PST by Mudboy Slim ("Time fer Soddom'sInsane to be Transformed into a PINK MIST!!!")
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To: gridlock
"Americans should set aside their political differences once the Mother of All Bombs starts blowing up munitions dumps and babies in Baghdad."

Maybe they shouldn't put their munition dumps and babies in the place.
11 posted on 03/17/2003 1:13:05 PM PST by chaosagent
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To: VeniVidiVici
Ted Rall seems to be convinced that the USA in 2003 is just as evil as NAZI Germany in 1940. Once a person accepts the truth of that simple axiom, everything he says makes perfect sense.

Needless to say, I do not accept the truth of that axiom.

But you cannot prove otherwise to Tedd Rall. You could talk yourself blue in the face about concentration camps, and he would only want to talk about Mumia Abu Jamal. You mention Krystalnacht, and he would rant and rave about Rodney King. The fact that we sold Saddam three civilian helicopters 20 years ago is equivalent to the fact that he gassed his own citizens and is responsible for the deaths of a Million people.
13 posted on 03/17/2003 1:19:46 PM PST by gridlock (Le linge de tagement es printment avec pigment de soya en papier de recyclement totale.)
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You have to admire Rall's honesty.

The guy standing down on the corner yelling at his imaginary dog at 4:00 in the morning is honest, too. That doesn't mean he has anything interesting to say.

14 posted on 03/17/2003 1:21:39 PM PST by gridlock (Le linge de tagement es printment avec pigment de soya en papier de recyclement totale.)
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To: gridlock
This was the idiot "cartoonist" who was on Bill Mahr's second episode. He made my list that night.##


## For those not familiar with my list(and why would you be)I have a list of certain people that no matter the consequences to me, if I were to meet them on the street or anywhere I will punch them dead in the mouth!!!
16 posted on 03/17/2003 1:31:19 PM PST by Ga Rob ("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
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To: gridlock
Cheering them as they leave and holding parades when they return would certainly be misinterpreted by citizens of other countries as popular support for an inglorious enterprise--and it would make it easier for Bush to send them off again, to Iran or Libya or wherever. Let's keep our flags under wraps.

Let's put this guy up as the Parade Marshall, with a big sign with this quote on it, when our troops do finish the job...

I'd like to see if he'd survive the spectators, let alone the troops in the parade...

17 posted on 03/17/2003 1:35:05 PM PST by NorCoGOP (Appeasement of Evil Empowers Oppression)
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To: Ga Rob
Your list must be getting pretty long these days...
18 posted on 03/17/2003 1:41:02 PM PST by gridlock (Le linge de tagement es printment avec pigment de soya en papier de recyclement totale.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Those "head up the ass" pictures on every single thread, ad nauseum, are becoming tiresome, IMHO.

Ben Afflek and Tom Hanks? Pulleeeeeeeez....
Phony baloney.
19 posted on 03/17/2003 1:42:36 PM PST by wolficatZ
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To: gridlock
Up until 'Germans in the 1930s,' Rall makes valid points. All that follows is what you would expect from a cartoonist.
20 posted on 03/17/2003 1:48:17 PM PST by gcruse (When choosing between two evils, pick the one you haven't tried yet.)
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