Anti-War Protests Have Big Price Tags

FOX News ^ | Tuesday, March 18, 2003 | Fox News, Dan Springer

[cerberus]

But I cannot understand why pacifists would want to join with the Communist and Socialist, after all Socialist have lead some of the bloodiest revolutions in history...

Can you say "dupes"?

[Jerry_M]

They will shut down power plants and water systems when we go to war?

This sounds like the type of terrorist attack against America that should be dealt with by force. There is a difference between peaceful protest and acts of sabotage. Those who aren't shot on the spot should swing from a rope.

[Valin]

Some protestors are vowing to bring traffic to a standstill, as they recently did on a Seattle bridge. But many wonder if paralyzing the morning commute and engaging in similar disruptions will win converts or make enemies of people losing patience with their tactics.

Don't worry there's nothing people love more than sitting in traffic. Just one thing, please (and I can't hit this hard enough) make sure they know who's doing this, think lots and loots of big signs with your address and phone number on it so people can express their gratitude to you.

[knighthawk]

BUMP

[AppyPappy]

The vast majority of Americans want to be left alone. Those tactics will hurt them.

[apackof2]

This is one news item you'll never see as an expose on 20/20, Dateline, 60 Minutes OR most newspapers

[Mo1]

But many wonder if paralyzing the morning commute and engaging in similar disruptions will win converts or make enemies of people losing patience with their tactics.

My guess is people will lose patience with these idiot's tactics

[finnman69]

A better question is who has to pay for all of the extra police overtime to keep an eye on the protester/looters.

[Chemist_Geek]

This sounds like the type of terrorist attack against America that should be dealt with by force. There is a difference between peaceful protest and acts of sabotage. Those who aren't shot on the spot should swing from a rope.

You may find this from KPIX interesting...

Vandenberg Air Force Base authorizes 'deadly force' against trespassing protesters

Saturday March 15, 2003

VANDENBERG AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (AP) Security forces at Vandenberg Air Force Base may use "deadly force" against protesters if they infiltrate the military complex if a war starts, officials said.

Some anti-war activists plan to trespass onto base grounds in hopes of disturbing Vandenberg's mission and to vandalize sensitive equipment they contend helps guide the war effort.

Vandenberg officials revealed Friday that military security police may shoot to kill, if necessary, to protect base residents and machinery.

The directive has always been in existence, but a base spokeswoman said it is more critical now that people understand its severity.

"This is not fun and games anymore," said Maj. Stacee Bako. "We're living in post 9/11. We don't know what's going to happen with the war effort in Iraq. These folks have got to realize their actions. ... They're illegal intruders."

Military police will use their "judgment, experience and training" to determine if lethal force is necessary, she said.

"Deadly force can be used when lesser means of force aren't feasible or have failed, and to protect (Department of Defense) assets designated as vital to the national security," she explained.

The deadly force policy will not deter protesters, said Peter Lumsdaine of the Vandenberg Action Coalition, one of the organizers of the planned trespassing.

"I think it does underline that people in the nonviolent resistance movement are willing to take some risks," Lumsdaine said.

A Guadalupe man jumped onto the base's entrance sign Friday and sprayed it with 4 ounces of his own blood in a symbolic gesture of his anti-war stance. Dennis Apel, 52, later pleaded guilty to misdemeanor counts of trespassing and vandalism. He will be sentenced next month in a Santa Barbara federal court and faces a possible jail sentence or fine.

"We wanted them to see some blood," said Apel, a member of Guadalupe Catholic Worker, a social reform movement. "We wanted them to in some way visually experience the consequences of what they're doing."

Vandenberg has been on heightened alert since the 2001 terrorist attacks, with barricades near sensitive equipment and tighter access to the classified installation.

Bako said the security measures, including the deadly force decree, are necessary because of the threat of biological weapons.

"It's impossible for us to determine what their intent is," she said. "Are they protesters? Are there terrorists in that group and (do) they plan on killing everyone on base? They all have to be dealt with as very specific threats, whether they're vandalizing a sign, crossing the green (no trespassing) line or infiltrating the backcountry."

[holden]

How could our "fellow travellers" in Congress not make the cut?

Democratic Socialists of the USA

HF

[concerned about politics]

But many wonder if paralyzing the morning commute and engaging in similar disruptions will win converts

Sure. For the Republican party.

[johnny reb]

I cannot understand why pacifists would want to join with the Communist and Socialist, after all Socialist have lead some of the bloodiest revolutions in history - only to install vile dictators who have pillaged the land and made slaves of the people.

"They do not want to own your fortune, they want you to lose it; they do not want to succeed, they want you to fail; they do not want to live, they want you to die; they desire nothing, they hate existence ..." (Atlas Shrugged.)

_________________ Just a little thought from Ayn Rand and the "Age of Envy"

[concerned about politics]

The deadly force policy will not deter protesters, said Peter Lumsdaine of the Vandenberg Action Coalition, one of the organizers of the planned trespassing.

They're going to toss in a few useful idiots and use their deaths as political fodder. How sweet.

[ResistorSister]

I love Ayn Rand - thanks!

[concerned about politics]

I e-mailed this article to everyone I could think of - just for fun.

[katana]

This information is all well and good, but where do these Leninist parties get their funds from? If the sources are foreign, which seems likely, I'd think the FBI would be interested. If the funding is domestic, the sources should be exposed for what they are ... traitors.

[hellinahandcart]

A Guadalupe man jumped onto the base's entrance sign Friday and sprayed it with 4 ounces of his own blood in a symbolic gesture of his anti-war stance..."We wanted them to see some blood," said Apel, a member of Guadalupe Catholic Worker, a social reform movement. "We wanted them to in some way visually experience the consequences of what they're doing."

It's pretty obvious that "what they're doing" is driving a lot of socialists insane.

What a visual experience. LOL

[zip]

Bookmarked for info.

[F16Fighter]

"Two words: Useful idiots."

I have five words: Traitors who should be hung.

[FreedomPoster]

Yes, that's a logical follow on.