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Oprah talks about the danger to the US because of war
email ^ | 03.18.03

Posted on 03/18/2003 11:21:13 AM PST by yankeedame

Oprah talks about the danger to the US because of war

Oprah talks about the danger to the US because of war Today's Oprah (which she said was being shot live) was about the consequences of going to war in Iraq.

Her guests were Fawaz Gerges, Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at Sarah Lewis University and author of "America and Political Islam - Clash of Cultures or Clash of Interests" and Thomas Freidman, New York Times columnist, author of "Longitudes and Attitudes - Exploring the World After September 11th" and he has a new documentary, "Thomas L. Friedman Reporting: Searching for the Roots of 9/11" which will air on 3/26 at 10pm EST on the Discovery Chanel.

They talked about how an attack on Iraq will increase the hatred and rage in the Muslim world against the U.S. Professor Gerges listed the Islamic religious groups calling for Muslims to stand up to the US aggression.

They played a long clip from Mr. Friedman's documentary, including interviews with people from 5 countries around the world (didn't say which countries).

Friedman said the overwhelming message was that America should try not to boss the world around and that our double standards are the single most important problem with America.

In the documentary he asked students in Qtar what they thought 9/11 was all about and what they thought motivated the hijackers.

One young man said we (the US) think the blood of the people sitting in the offices ruling the world is expensive and the Arab blood is cheap like an animal's. The Palestinian blood is no cheaper than anyone else's. There is an Arab empire.

He never heard of a Jewish empire and America is only 300 years old. So how is the Arab world backward and what makes their blood cheap?

A young woman medical student said the only thing different about September 11th is that it happened in America. September 11th is taking place daily in Palestine and happened in Lebanon and other places in the Arab world.

Then Oprah and her guests talked at length about the double standards in American foreign policy and the huge disconnect between what America says and what America does.

Professor Gerges got into a bit of a rant about how the impending attack on Iraq will drive more and more Muslim men into the waiting arms of al Qaida and other jihad groups that are now actively preparing for the new recruits.

Thomas Friedman kept saying that if we want to survive the aftermath of this war "we have to do it right". He was on Oprah not long ago and he has been in favor of taking Sadam out of office, but through the UN, not in an essentially unilateral, unsanctioned war.

At the end of the show he said the Bush administration would have to have an attitude lobotomy in order to pull it off. He said one image of war is the

They played another clip from Friedman's documentary. Another young man was asked what he thought was the motivation behind 9/11 and the way many Arab people reacted to it.

He said it was because while they didn't cheer over the images of Americans jumping to their death, they cheered that America got a collective "punch in the nose".

He said Arab people feel that way because America has been kicking their butts for 50 years by supporting the bullies in the region, whether Israel or their own repressive governments.

He said by bombing innocent people, women and children, and calling it acceptable collateral damage we educated them to believe that. So, ok, the death of innocent American civilians is the fault of Bush and while regrettable, it is acceptable. So actually they are good students of the United States. They learned the American mentality.

Next Oprah played an excerpt from Michael Moore's film "Bowling for Columbine" of the dark side of American foreign policy.

It was during that clip that ABC News broke in for Tom Ridge's announcement that we are now in hyper-panic, but that we should go about our business as usual. How fitting.

Its not that I think Oprah told the whole story - nothing about PNAC that I heard for example. But with everything else on TV being a steady drumbeat to goose step to war, I think this deserves our attention. I also want to suggest that we send info to Oprah. You should have seen the look on her face. She is scared. I think she could be persuaded that this administration is evil and dangerous.

Her address is Harpo Studios, 1058 W. Washington, Chicago, IL 60607. Phone number: 312-633-0808. Email address: http://www.oprah.com/email/tows/email_tows_main.jhtml

In Chicago the show airs again at 11:05 pm (unless Nightline goes longer, then it comes on right after).


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 03/18/2003 11:21:13 AM PST by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
Thank goodness I will be listenign to the third hour of Sean Hannity. No Oprah for me
2 posted on 03/18/2003 11:22:49 AM PST by JFC
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To: JFC
Ain't she the one "Who used to be a fat black chick" that played in that Roots thing that turned out to be a lie?
3 posted on 03/18/2003 11:24:10 AM PST by trebb
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To: yankeedame
Here's a quarter. Call someone who cares (what Oprah thinks).

I respect Oprah for the success she has made of herself. I don't care what her political views are.

4 posted on 03/18/2003 11:24:25 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: yankeedame
I hope the sentiments expressed at the end of the email are not yours.
5 posted on 03/18/2003 11:24:33 AM PST by wideawake (Causa finita est)
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To: yankeedame
IIRC, she did a very good show a few months back where she had experts come on and make a convincing case for regime change in Iraq. The lefties were whining and cursing her on her message boards, calling her "Bush's b*tch".
6 posted on 03/18/2003 11:25:50 AM PST by RabidBartender (Hi!)
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To: yankeedame
I hope more muslims join terroist groups after we kick the shiite out of Saddam. At least then we will be able to identify them, and help arrange a meeting between allah and themseves.
7 posted on 03/18/2003 11:26:15 AM PST by TheCause (Pacifists are the Paracites of Freedom, Pacificism in the face of terrorism is TREASON)
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To: JFC
Idiot Oprah.

Who cares what she thinks?

How about a photo for her of the 'dangers' of hopelessly throwing yourself out a 95-story window to avoid burning to death, rationalizing that landing in pieces is far better than being grilled to death?

September 11, 2001.

How soon these FOOLS forget. Shame on them.

8 posted on 03/18/2003 11:26:26 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Sorry if I can't answer everyone right away on Japan/Korea freepmail questions. I'm swamped! :-)
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To: yankeedame; harpseal; Travis McGee; Squantos; sneakypete; Chapita
A young woman medical student said the only thing different about September 11th is that it happened in America. September 11th is taking place daily in Palestine and happened in Lebanon and other places in the Arab world.

Must be blowing up their skyscrapers as fast as they are build, I have never seen one.

9 posted on 03/18/2003 11:27:10 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: TheCause
terroist = terrorist
10 posted on 03/18/2003 11:27:15 AM PST by TheCause (Pacifists are the Paracites of Freedom, Pacificism in the face of terrorism is TREASON)
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To: yankeedame
Did they talk about how much weight Okra had lost or gained? What was everyone wearing? Did Okra do that teary eyed thing when the Arab's talked about how we had taught them that civilian deaths are OK? Did they mention that our military doesn't hide amoung the civilian population? Sorry I let a serious question or to slip in.
11 posted on 03/18/2003 11:28:33 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: yankeedame
Bush would be a fool to invage Iraq without knowing once he turned over a few rocks over there the world would be shocked at what we find.

Bush is no fool.

12 posted on 03/18/2003 11:28:42 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Trust but Verify
This doesn't say that Oprah agrees, she just has the opposing viewpoint. She's done shows on why we should go. I think this is called "FAIR AND BALANCED." On the other hand, Thomas (Jewish) Friedman should be shot, which is what the guy he shares his podium would like to do to him if he had the Chance
13 posted on 03/18/2003 11:29:19 AM PST by Hildy
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To: yankeedame
Oprah is over, no one even thinks of her any more. Who wrote that post anyway?

What is PNAC?
14 posted on 03/18/2003 11:29:48 AM PST by Theyknow
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To: trebb
She was the fat chick that had her head superimposed on another person's body for the cover of TV guide a few years back.
15 posted on 03/18/2003 11:30:05 AM PST by Renegade
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To: yankeedame
I didn't notice what Oprah said regarding going to war with Iraq, but I doubt it has changed (she's pro). Also, this seems to say the observer didn't even watch the whole show.

I'd like to see the contents of the show (in transcript form) before jumping to a conclusion.
16 posted on 03/18/2003 11:30:50 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: yankeedame
Oprah closed with this: "Why are we spending money on this racist war instead of paying me my reparations for all these years of oppression?"
17 posted on 03/18/2003 11:31:01 AM PST by Lexington Green
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To: yankeedame
Oprah talks

And I just farted.

and nobody cares

18 posted on 03/18/2003 11:31:13 AM PST by Gasshog (sorry still not afraid you media-whores)
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To: yankeedame
"I think she could be persuaded that this administration is evil and dangerous."

Please clarify the above statement. It can be read two ways:

1) We should send Oprah information that would lead her to believe the admistration is evil and dangerous.

2) We should send her informatin that would convince her of the truth, so she will not be convinced by lies that the administration is evil and dangerous.

Based on the earlier comment about the media goosestepping towards war, I think you were supporting option 1. If so, then you posted this on the wrong board, you need to post it on one of your left wing boards.
19 posted on 03/18/2003 11:31:46 AM PST by CSM
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To: yankeedame
Oh, and there's no correlation between having controversial people on a talk show and the host's agreeing with those people.
20 posted on 03/18/2003 11:31:54 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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