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[Arab TV Claims] US Jet Shot Down by Iraqi Anti Aircraft Fire [Female Pilot Captured]
Islamic Republic News Agency and 'Al Arabiya' TV ^ | March 22, 2003 | BH/JB

Posted on 03/22/2003 1:35:19 PM PST by ewing

Iraq anti aircraft shot down an invading jet over Baghdad Saturday, the al-Arabiya television channel said.

The aircrafts pilot-a woman-and its co-pilot parachuted safely but were captured by Iraqi forces.

(Excerpt) Read more at irna.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: arabtv; enemypropaganda; female; iraq; iraqifreedom; jet; pilot; taqiyya; taqiyyalist; war
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To: annyokie
One part of being "done" is admitting that you have been corrected.

Just cuz you fly in combat doesn't mean you get a DFC. Do you, or do you not stand by your post #57?

161 posted on 03/22/2003 6:13:24 PM PST by TankerKC
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To: Wormwood
Thank you, Sir!!
162 posted on 03/22/2003 6:14:10 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Wormwood
Thank you, Sir!! Well said!!!
163 posted on 03/22/2003 6:14:31 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: TankerKC
Lets just concentrate on the "safety and well being" of the female pilot mentioned in the thread introduction rather then beating a dead horse!!

I must tell you there is a very strong bond among pilots and so far you have not claimed to be one!!
164 posted on 03/22/2003 6:26:07 PM PST by Archdean
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To: Archdean
I don't need to be a pilot to make comments. So far, mine have been much more accurate than anny's. She made an absolutely incorrect statement, then beats around the bush, insults me, then has to call her hubby to clean up the mess.

Fact: Women DO fly in combat.

...and, this report is probably bogus.

165 posted on 03/22/2003 6:30:20 PM PST by TankerKC
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To: TankerKC
I will agree with you, women are now able to fly in Combat Aircraft. However, that is not to say that they are intentionally placed in Direct Combat Situations.

Now, please stop your incessent fixation on this topic.

Thank you.
166 posted on 03/22/2003 6:34:19 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: grimalkin
Women do not fly in jets during combat missions.

Incorrect.

167 posted on 03/22/2003 6:40:29 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: battousai
Women can't fly combat missions or aircraft so this is obviously some fake news...

Incorrect.

168 posted on 03/22/2003 6:42:08 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: annyokie
Female pilots do not fly combat missions.

Incorrect.

169 posted on 03/22/2003 6:44:25 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Centurion2000
Female AH-64 pilot. Suprised me as well.

We've had female Apache pilots since 1994.

170 posted on 03/22/2003 6:45:51 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Female pilots are not intentionally given these missions.

Most are assigned to Combat Support roles and do a damned good job of it!!
171 posted on 03/22/2003 6:50:53 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: wardaddy
killed due to pilot error on her first carrier landing (it may have been her first night carrier landing).

Incorrect. Hultgreen flew Intruders, for which she was carrier qual'd, prior to F-14s, for which she was also carrier qual'd. She also was carrier qual'd at Pensacola while a student. She had a number of traps and she crashed in broad daylight on her final attempt.

Her gunner ejected safely.

The other crewmember was a RIO - Radar Intercept Officer, not a gunner. Hultgreen was actually the trigger puller on that bird and we know she didn't eject safely.

172 posted on 03/22/2003 6:54:49 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Thanks form the clarification but you know damn well she had 7 washouts in the F-14 landings prior to her first F-14 carrier attempt which took her life. More than enough to have canned a male flyer according to the Navy personnel who reported this and were fired for their efforts.
173 posted on 03/22/2003 7:16:52 PM PST by wardaddy (G-dspeed our troops!)
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To: annyokie
Female pilots are not intentionally given these missions.

Incorrect, once again. I suggest you spend some time in Operations at a forward operating area or in the Ready Room onboard a carrier or LHA/LHD and read a few manifests. Or maybe you can catch a flight to Kuwait and visit 1st Lieutenant Vernice Armour USMC who at this very minute is flying combat missions in Operation Iraqi Freedom. She flies AH-1W attack helicopters, intentionally.

174 posted on 03/22/2003 7:27:32 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: wardaddy
Thanks form the clarification but you know damn well she had 7 washouts in the F-14 landings prior to her first F-14 carrier attempt which took her life.

Incorrect. She was carrier qual'd in an F-14 at the FRS. She was in a fleet squadron, VF-213, when she screwed the pooch. She had previously successfully trapped an F-14 on a carrier. This was not her first attempt. I'm not defending the poor decision to put an unqualified pilot in the cockpit of an F-14, just stating the facts.

175 posted on 03/22/2003 7:44:20 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
"Thanks form the clarification but you know damn well she had 7 washouts in the F-14 landings prior to her first F-14 carrier attempt which took her life."

Thank you, sir. Girls do not belong on the Bridge!!!

Our Creator has given us all special skills/roles, when we attempt to blend and/or modify them, the result is always something less than what was intended.
176 posted on 03/22/2003 7:57:11 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: annyokie
You should have responded to wardaddy for his comment, not me.

Are your bags packed to go and visit Lieutenant Armour?

177 posted on 03/22/2003 8:07:04 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
"Are your bags packed to go and visit Lieutenant Armour"

Rather childish, don't you think?

I stated my opinion as a mature female/pilot.
178 posted on 03/22/2003 8:29:03 PM PST by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Dec31,1999
I've never met any gay Conservatives.

Al Rantel is a conservative talk radio host on KABC and a very intellectual conservative.

179 posted on 03/22/2003 8:33:34 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
She was the first woman "qualified" to fly carrier correct?

Along with the later dismissed woman (whose name I can't recall...Lorenzo??) and who has since filed suit against the Navy for not being given carrier status?

Please enlighten me...I'm not flaming.

BTW...what is your view on women in combat. You seem to be better up to speed on the facts than I.
180 posted on 03/22/2003 8:35:24 PM PST by wardaddy (G-dspeed our troops!)
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