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Iraqi arsenal of banned weapons discovered
SMH ^ | March 24 2003, | n/a

Posted on 03/23/2003 11:48:42 AM PST by concerned about politics

Iraqi arsenal of banned weapons discovered

British troops outside Basra have discovered cruise missiles and warheads hidden inside fortified bunkers as part of a massive arsenal abandoned by Saddam Hussein's disintegrating southern army.

Cases of rockets, giant anti-shipping mines and other ammunition are piled from floor to ceiling in dozens of bunkers at what is marked on maps as the Az Zubaya Heliport.

The most disturbing find was two Russian-made Al-Harith anti-shipping cruise missiles, each 6m long and 1m in diameter, and nine warheads, hidden in two enormous reinforced concrete bunkers.

Another missile, as yet unidentified, was found still crated up at the rear of one of the bunkers.

Some of the boxes are clearly marked with the names of British manufacturers.

The scale and possible implications of the weapons find took British forces by surprise and raised fresh questions about the extent of the Iraqi war machine and the ability of weapons inspectors to cope with the task of scouring such a vast country for prohibited ordinance.

The discovery of the missiles - date-marked 2002 - came as British troops from the Black Watch Regiment fought to secure the area around Iraqi's second city, Basra, in preparation for the capture of the city.

The vast complex, surrounded by chainlink fence and barbed wire, stands to the southwest of the town, defended by a network of earth works and with tanks and other armoured vehicles dug in to the surrounding area.

But the defenders have fled after coming under attack from coalition forces.

Outside the perimeter fence are about 40 bunkers packed with a mixture of RPGs and other ammunition. Inside, 22 larger fortified bunkers contain larger weaponry including the Al-Harith missiles.

The missiles, with Al-Harith 2002 stencilled in red paint on the side, and covered with cyrillic writing, were housed in 20-m-long concrete bunkers, 8m high, buried under earth and protected by sliding steel double doors 30cm thick.

Painted grey, the missiles have two wings, each about 60cm in span and three tail fins of a similar size. There was no indication of the nature of the warheads fitted and experts have been called in to examine the find.

Also housed inside the reinforced bunkers were what appeared to be large anti-shipping mines, 1m in diameter, and a host of other munitions.

On one box, written in English, were the words: "Contract AS Navy. 5/1980 Iran."

Corporal Steven Airzee said: "The initial sight was a shock. We were trying to figure out what they were. You have to wonder whether the weapons inspectors have been there because they looked pretty big."

The entrance to the heliport is decorated with a picture of Saddam Hussein in military uniform.

The area is surrounded by wrecked vehicles and abandoned sandbagged fox holes, some flying white flags, and is overlooked by a network of watch towers.

There are fears that weapons may have been taken from some of the bunkers which lie open outside the perimeter fence.

Lieutenant Angus Watson said they found the haul when they arrived last night.

"The complex is massive and we were surprised to find a lot of the kit intact, easily enough for a whole brigade," he said.

They also discovered hundreds of leaflets lying on the floor, dropped by coalition planes, urging the defenders to surrender. The leaflets, and evidence of an aerial or artillery attack, appear to have persuaded the defenders to abandon their posts without a fight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1441; alharith2002; blackwatchregiment; illegalweapons; iraq; iraqiweapons; missiles; un; unarmsinspectors; unfailure; uninspections; unitednations; warlist; weapons
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1 posted on 03/23/2003 11:48:42 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
cc: Blix, Chirac, Schröder, Putin.
2 posted on 03/23/2003 11:51:28 AM PST by dighton (Amen-Corner Hatchet Team, Nasty Little Clique)
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To: concerned about politics
So important it had to be repeated.
3 posted on 03/23/2003 11:52:08 AM PST by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: concerned about politics
outstanding post... getting more info here than on Paula Zahn.
4 posted on 03/23/2003 11:52:43 AM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: concerned about politics; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; ..
Wonder if any of these had Gas capability?

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

5 posted on 03/23/2003 11:53:36 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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To: concerned about politics
Sacre bleu!

V


6 posted on 03/23/2003 11:53:37 AM PST by Beck_isright (UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER ONLY NO MORE NEGOTIATIONS)
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To: concerned about politics
Once whoever is running the Iraqi regime stands down, we'll start to find a lot more stuff like this. We've already been proven right.
7 posted on 03/23/2003 11:53:46 AM PST by Brett66
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To: concerned about politics
This is serious !
8 posted on 03/23/2003 11:54:08 AM PST by ChadGore (288,007,154 Americans did not protest the war today)
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To: concerned about politics
No mention on Fox yet. No mention during the CentCom briefing eiter; that press briefing included a British officer.

FR is scooping the professionals again, it seems.
9 posted on 03/23/2003 11:54:45 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: concerned about politics
bookmark
10 posted on 03/23/2003 11:54:54 AM PST by FreeperinRATcage
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To: wimpycat; Poohbah; Dog Gone; William Wallace; Luis Gonzalez
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11 posted on 03/23/2003 11:54:57 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Paleocons, the French and the UN - Excusing corrupt, power mad dictators for decades)
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To: concerned about politics
The scale and possible implications of the weapons find took British forces by surprise and raised fresh questions about the extent of the Iraqi war machine and the ability of weapons inspectors to cope with the task of scouring such a vast country for prohibited ordinance.

Only to dumbs**its who think that "inspections were working," and nothing will persuade them anyway.

Besides, the Americans planted all of this so the Brits would stumble across it. Isn't obvious?

12 posted on 03/23/2003 11:55:05 AM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: dighton
PS...

EXCLUSIVE: US TROOPS CAPTURE CHEMICAL PLANT

(Still waiting for access to article. Have headline only - Jerusalem Post )

13 posted on 03/23/2003 11:55:12 AM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: concerned about politics
"You have to wonder whether the weapons inspectors have been there because they looked pretty big."

Of course they had been there, but those rose-colored glasses obscured their vision.

14 posted on 03/23/2003 11:55:28 AM PST by Magnolia
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To: concerned about politics
The most disturbing find was two Russian-made Al-Harith anti-shipping cruise missiles, each 6m long and 1m in diameter, and nine warheads, hidden in two enormous reinforced concrete bunkers.

You've been nabbed Putin. Chechnya huh? Doing deals with the devil that's after you? How very French.

15 posted on 03/23/2003 11:56:02 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: George W. Bush
To be fair, the news media must first corraborate things, while for FR there is no real downside to being wrong.
16 posted on 03/23/2003 11:56:10 AM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: concerned about politics
Hopefully we come upon the chemical/biological weapons cache as easy.
17 posted on 03/23/2003 11:56:29 AM PST by knak (kelly in alaska)
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To: Sabertooth
Bonk
18 posted on 03/23/2003 11:56:41 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: concerned about politics
BOOM bump! So excited, now I have to go back and read the details.
19 posted on 03/23/2003 11:57:15 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: concerned about politics
I guess I'm a little slow. Except for your headline what makes these weapons "banned."
20 posted on 03/23/2003 11:57:28 AM PST by breakem
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To: concerned about politics
you mean this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/873084/posts
21 posted on 03/23/2003 11:57:32 AM PST by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: knak
Its a country as huge as California. Finding all his biological/chemical weapons will take months maybe years. First things first.
22 posted on 03/23/2003 11:57:34 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: concerned about politics
So it took the US-led coalition less than 5 days to find WMDs that the arms inspectors couldn't find in 12 years. Thanks for posting this...we all needed some good news today. On to Baghdad!
23 posted on 03/23/2003 11:57:53 AM PST by cloud8
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To: concerned about politics
Well, nobody tell Hans Blix. He needs to continue sleep-walking.
24 posted on 03/23/2003 11:57:54 AM PST by xJones
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To: concerned about politics
I was just wondering if Centcom is just not going to comment on WMD found? They just got asked questions and they basically brushed them off.

Seems like they you anounce this find to the world.

25 posted on 03/23/2003 11:57:55 AM PST by agincourt1415 (Lets Roll!)
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To: Magnolia
Of course they had been there, but those rose-colored glasses obscured their vision.

Ignorance is Blix.

26 posted on 03/23/2003 11:58:23 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: bonesmccoy
I could lock myself in a closet for a week, and at the end of the week I would still be more informed about the war than Paula Zahn.

In retrospect, the Fox-CNN "trade" of Paula for Greta put FNC on top once and for all. They haven't looked back since.
27 posted on 03/23/2003 11:58:57 AM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: concerned about politics
BTTT
28 posted on 03/23/2003 11:59:02 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: concerned about politics
FR thread on that subject (Chem Plant Capture) here:

U.S. Troops Capture Chemical Plant

29 posted on 03/23/2003 11:59:27 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: agincourt1415
I meant "It seems like Centcom would anounce finds in a news conference as they are found" Re: WMD.
30 posted on 03/23/2003 11:59:33 AM PST by agincourt1415 (Lets Roll!)
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To: goldstategop
I know that. I just meant I hope the Iraqi's run awy and we can just walk in and find the things when there's no danger of our guys getting hurt by them.
31 posted on 03/23/2003 11:59:35 AM PST by knak (kelly in alaska)
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To: concerned about politics
I don't understand why you people are making a big deal about this, Hans told me personally this is where he was going to look next if he could just stay another day. Infact, he said he was going there for wine and cheese with Jock.
32 posted on 03/23/2003 11:59:48 AM PST by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast; Poohbah
I don't know, but it might be possible that the purchase of these missiles predates Putin or that they were purchased from the Russian mob.

In the case of the French, things are probably more clearcut.
33 posted on 03/23/2003 11:59:53 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: eddie willers
Ignorance is Blix.

So true. It would be almost amusing if this wasn't so serious.

34 posted on 03/23/2003 12:00:26 PM PST by Magnolia
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To: breakem
Except for your headline what makes these weapons "banned."

Cruise....long range...a no-no I believe.

35 posted on 03/23/2003 12:00:48 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Bogey78O
you mean this?

Yes. The chemical plant was made to look like sand from the air, and was inside Iraq past the no fly zone. Was called a metal factory.

36 posted on 03/23/2003 12:01:53 PM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: concerned about politics
Some of the boxes are clearly marked with the names of British manufacturers...the missiles - date-marked 2002...

Odd?

37 posted on 03/23/2003 12:04:29 PM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: Carry_Okie
I don't know, but it might be possible that the purchase of these missiles predates Putin or that they were purchased from the Russian mob.

You make a good point Carry. Nonetheless, it may explain Russia's refusal to join the coalition. Putin may know more than he's let on.

38 posted on 03/23/2003 12:05:07 PM PST by Magnolia
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To: concerned about politics
THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS, NO TERRORISTS!!!! ONLY AMERICAN PROPAGANDA...

Will someone please post a brave reporter nailing Dashole on this???? His lack of intelligence in protecting the American people, our American Military???
Sheesh.
39 posted on 03/23/2003 12:06:10 PM PST by Terridan (God, help us deliver these Islamic animals into hell...)
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To: concerned about politics
Do you have a better link at SMH? I'm not finding this story?
40 posted on 03/23/2003 12:07:05 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: concerned about politics
Corporal Steven Airzee said: "The initial sight was a shock. We were trying to figure out what they were. You have to wonder whether the weapons inspectors have been there because they looked pretty big."

Well, if it was considered a "Military Base", of course the inspectors did not go there. They were not allowed under the UN inspections protocol to check out any military sites.

41 posted on 03/23/2003 12:07:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: concerned about politics
That one is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/873084/posts
42 posted on 03/23/2003 12:07:56 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: litany_of_lies
Besides, the Americans planted all of this so the Brits would stumble across it. Isn't obvious?

That's right. The FedEx labels were still attached.

43 posted on 03/23/2003 12:08:02 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Open the pod bay door HAL.)
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To: concerned about politics
why don't we have footage of this? that would be good for morale. oh, i forgot our media's explicit mission is to destroy morale.
44 posted on 03/23/2003 12:08:45 PM PST by faithincowboys (Hate The French)
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To: Magnolia
Putin may know more than he's let on

Putin was a colonel in the KGB.

45 posted on 03/23/2003 12:08:50 PM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: concerned about politics
bttt
46 posted on 03/23/2003 12:09:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FreedomPoster
Click on the link above, click here for article
47 posted on 03/23/2003 12:09:32 PM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: concerned about politics
If this story is true and that the Israel newspaper story is correct about the WMD, all of the coalition of the appeasers are going to look like fools. But, the one who is going to look the most foolish is Scott Ritter. He must be sh....g a brick. Not only will his defense of Iraq will be discredited, but the young children that Sadaam hooked him up with during his inspection days will come out.
48 posted on 03/23/2003 12:09:42 PM PST by GWB00
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To: eddie willers
Waining to see Blix slap forehead and say "Oh I feel so stupid"
49 posted on 03/23/2003 12:09:53 PM PST by POGIFFMOO
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To: NautiNurse
Putin was a colonel in the KGB.

BINGO!

50 posted on 03/23/2003 12:10:04 PM PST by Magnolia
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