Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

I could almost find that offensive, but that would require me to care.

As for perversion, I probably am considered a prevert, I happen to be a man who enjoys the company of women, a good bottle of scotch and high capacity magazines and I believe in GOD. To some aberrant segments of the populous, that is perversion.

Last post to this thread, I've lost interest. Goodnight.

[SendShaqtoIraq]

I've read the whole thread and that's exactly the meaning. If the United States isn't a Christian nation because we have Jews, Muslims, etc as citizens then Israel can't be a Jewish nation because there are Christians and Muslims who live there.

[ET(end tyranny)]

Well your screen name IS Rasputin. I merely commented to another poster about their comment to you. And Rasputin WAS a pervert!

So get all bothered at me, you chose your screen name.

[so_real]

Gets your dander up, doesn't it? *chuckle*

Sure does :-)

[SendShaqtoIraq]

Thank you. Others on this list are too stupid to get that.

[newguy357]

SORRY, the Truth doesn't change depending on the audience.

[ET(end tyranny)]

The point has been made that this is a nation founded on God, not christianity. Check your currency. In God We Trust. Not, In Jesus We Trust. In GOD We Trust. I think the founders were ever so wise to make the distinction.

[SendShaqtoIraq]

"Someone posted that Christians pray ONLY to Jesus"

No we pray to the Father THROUGH Jesus.

[so_real]

So how can it be that Christians are supposed to pray ONLY to Jesus????

If someone has made such a statement, I would happily disagree. But Christians *do* pray in Christ's name. That's a big part of our religion and there's no reason to try and wrestle it away from us.

[so_real]

The point has been made that this is a nation founded on God, not christianity. Check your currency. In God We Trust. Not, In Jesus We Trust. In GOD We Trust. I think the founders were ever so wise to make the distinction.

Jesus gave glory to God, and our founding fathers were ever so wise to follow suit. If you check your history books, you'll find the founding father's had abundant Christians.

[F-117A]

Nothing chaps my hide more than someone trying to PUSH their beliefs on someone else when it isn't invited or appropriate.

I'm under the impression he WAS invited!

The pastor – a Vietnam veteran – was invited to give the prayer by Republican Sen. Alex Mooney. Hughes was Mooney's fourth guest. The other three were Jewish rabbis.

[Proud2BAmerican]

If you are in a mixed company, you seek a common ground. If you pray to G-d, you do not jeopardize any of your Christian beliefs and remain on common ground with Christians of all denominations, Jews, Muslims, and Hindu.

Thanks for the insult in preface to your response to me. I won't respond in kind.

If the minister's conscience bids him to pray "in Jesus name" anytime he prays (and we're not debating whether or not that in itself is appropriate), then to expect him to DROP the "in Jesus name" is to make the minister violate his own conscience.

Personally, in this situation if it were me, I would seek common ground, and pray to God, because my conscience is not bothered by saying the name "God", and omitting the ending of "in Jesus name." But maybe this minister is different. I know that there are some fundamentalist Christians (as well as Christians of other stripes) who would feel that it was a form of denying Christ NOT to finish a prayer with those words.

Maybe had the minister been aware of the fact that he wasn't supposed to say Jesus name, he would have declined the offer to lead the prayer, due to a violation of his conscience.

[ET(end tyranny)]

No we pray to the Father THROUGH Jesus.

Hey, I'm not the one that said Christians pray only to Jesus. But, I did retrieve the post for you. Better tell them!!

Ditto! It;s time for others to show some respect and tolerance. It is ONLY to Jesus that Christians pray. They have NO choice but to reference His name. To suggest otherwise would void the prayer.

327 posted on 04/03/2003 11:22 PM EST by nmh
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[ET(end tyranny)]

Jesus gave glory to God, and our founding fathers were ever so wise to follow suit. If you check your history books, you'll find the founding father's had abundant Christians.

No doubt they were, I didn't say they weren't, only that they CHOSE to put God on our currency not Jesus.

[so_real]

If you are interested, this is a good read: Were the Founding Fathers Christian?

[SendShaqtoIraq]

Thank you oh thank you oh thank you. Nice to have so much proof in ONE place.

[dennisw]

That my view. American Jews should speak up for Israel and Jewish interests but there is not enough respect shown for Christian interests in a Christian founded, Christian inspired nation. In this case a very simple Christian interest of using Jesus' name in a public prayer. America and Israel are the best nations for Jews to live.  

It's not as though the minister was going on for 20 minutes about Jesus. 

I would possibly walk out on public Muslim prayers since this is not a Muslim founded nation, thank heavens.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

It's pretty self explanatory. Who says the Jews are the ones making the trouble. The flip side is that the Christian is making trouble...

[dennisw]

Also this seems to be an attempt to limit ministers to the Old Testament in public prayers. It's very nice this is the general practice but exceptions are no big deal.

[Jeremiah Jr]

Baruch Haba Bashem Adonai Yeshua HaMoshiach