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THE FAILED EDUCATION "REFORMS"
(12-year old cuffed for puddle jumping)
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| April 14, 2003
| Tom DeWeese
Posted on 04/13/2003 3:23:34 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: ChemistCat
I don't know about vouchers anymore. I like the idea of scholarship funds or tax write-offs for individuals or companies.
Of course the teachers unions would have a fit.
You're getting a bargain at $505 a month for three kids. The kids are probably getting a good education, however. My brother is going to pay $12,000 next year for his daughter's tuition at an independent Catholic high school. They can't send her to the local public high school.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:11:33 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: fight_truth_decay
Apparently "the annointed" are too compassionate to paddle this kid for misbehaving, but they are perfectly willing to absolutely terrrify him for a few hours.
Somehow I don't get why they think that is kinder.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:12:24 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(TANSTAAFL)
To: Scothia
Your son was a victim of the feminization of the schools and, they hope, the entire country. These women should not even be in charge of boys. Not only do they NOT teach them to read etc., DO teach them almost everything else we don't want them exposed to but they are trying to turn them into girls besides.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:14:23 PM PDT
by
Let's Roll
(And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
To: Let's Roll
Your son was a victim of the feminization of the schools and, they hope, the entire country. These women should not even be in charge of boys. Not only do they NOT teach them to read etc., DO teach them almost everything else we don't want them exposed to but they are trying to turn them into girls besides. You're exactly right. He was. I'll never forget the idiot neophyte (Smyrna, Georgia, 1991) who whined that she felt her life "endangered" by my son's presence. He never threatened her whatsoever by word or deed. She just thought he was too strong, too dominant, too "male".
Don't worry. He kept right on being "too male".
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:23:48 PM PDT
by
Scothia
(If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
Parents are often required to put their child put on a regimen of Ritalin. Seven million government-approved drug addicts are going to school in drug-free zones!
To: fight_truth_decay
12-year old cuffed for puddle jumping Zero tolerance!
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:28:20 PM PDT
by
A. Pole
To: ladylib
You have a normal, disobedient boy and you cuff him and take him to the police station for jumping in a puddle? Just more conditioning for the emerging police state brought to you by George Clinton, Bill Bush, Bob Gore, and Al Dole.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:30:59 PM PDT
by
Mulder
(No matter how paranoid you are, you're not paranoid enough)
To: fight_truth_decay
: "I think it's true, but you are always going to have the strings attached as long as you have the federal money coming in. That's why I would like to see us just abolish the U.S. Department of Education -- in which case, all the state departments of education are going to collapse because they get up to 80% of their operating budget from my old office.... then, we go back and restore the finest system the world has ever known. Now that to me would be even more devastating to the United Nations people -- the internationalists -- than getting out of the U.N. Because if the biggest country, the most important economic power in the world, the United States, all of a sudden decided to jump off board of the "School To Work" agenda, which is an international one, they are going to be in such trouble they will not know what to do."
_______
A recent survey of public high schools students says that many of them do not like School-to-Work programs. They want academic programs -- not vocational, and they want higher academic standards.
This survey also stated that students and their parents know that they can get an education elsewhere, that they have choices. It no longer has to be the public school system -- they can get an education "through the air" -- via the internet.
Brick and mortar schools may be on their way out. Many states are now trying to attract home schooling students back to the public schools by offering on-line courses. Just give the public what it wants -- it seems that no one, parents or students, want STW programs.
Hillary, Marc, and Lamar Alexander might love STW programs, but the kids and their parents hate them.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:31:27 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: fight_truth_decay
"He did his job," Martone said. "It's a fine line any officer in the schools walks."
And they wonder why many law abiding, upright individuals have nothing but contempt for them.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:31:40 PM PDT
by
Jhoffa_
(It's called "adoption" Perhaps you've heard of it?)
To: The Other Harry
Some vouchers are better than no vouchers. Certainly the kids in the D.C. schools deserve to get them. I can think of some other areas as well -- too many to list. Actually, I fail to see why taxpayers should foot the bill for failing schools as well as help pay for vouchers for those students in failing schools. That just boggles the mind. Why not fix the schools?
My point is many Americans who are supporting and calling for vouchers think it means all you have to do is say you want your child to go to private school and voila!! you have it. Just don't think it will work that way. Now if when the President is calling for vouchers, he states this will not be for the average taxpaying American - this will be another program to help only the minority or low income families - do you think so many would be in favor. They are being misled and that bothers me.
It isn't a start - it is a big leap down the same old path.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:34:38 PM PDT
by
nanny
To: scouse
Think how lucky the kid was not being a pet dog, then the brave cop might have shot him.
Hey, knock it off..
That cop puts his life on the line every day to protect you from puddle jumpers. You should be grateful someone is still willing to take a full benefits, high profile, unionized, job for life like those cops do..
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:36:45 PM PDT
by
Jhoffa_
(It's called "adoption" Perhaps you've heard of it?)
To: fight_truth_decay
We should just ask the question of how many braindead socialists that are being created in these jails (schools just does not feel like the right name for these places anymore)? But also how many diehard, anti-state, anti-government anarchists these places are creating?
To: fight_truth_decay
We should NOT just ask the question of how many braindead socialists that are being created in these jails (schools just does not feel like the right name for these places anymore)? But also how many diehard, anti-state, anti-government anarchists these places are creating?
To: nanny; ChemistCat
With vouchers we can expect BIG government to exert even more control over private schools than it does over public schools.
To: *Education News; EdReform; madfly
To: Paul C. Jesup
Yeah, I can see it coming just around the bend. Male students hating female teachers and wimpy lefist male teachers and administrators.
Public schools are dangerous to normal, healthy, aggressive boys' mental and emotional health. They should be closed down.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:42:57 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: fight_truth_decay; All
The public indoctrination (education) system is about control.
What do you get in return for your tax dollars?
Issue 101
How is it that people and society in general have prospered and increased their well being for decades yet the politicians and bureaucrats say we must have another 3,000 laws and regulations each year on top of the 100,000+ laws already on the books... That without them people and society face "disaster". People and society have done quite well without next year's 3,000 new federal laws and regulations. Why all of a sudden can people and society not continue to do quite well without them? The fact is, they'd be better off without 99% of them.
So who really benefits from 3,000 new laws and regulations each year? -- not to mention state laws and regulations. Politicians and bureaucrats. They create boogieman problems and with a complicit media towing their boogieman problems cast a net of false fear and unwarranted despair in people.
Quite literally, they create problems where none exist. They're sick in that they chose to frighten people and foist false despair on them and do that to collect their unearned paychecks. Their job security is predicated on deceiving as many people as possible.
It cost more than just one and a half trillion dollars a year to fund government abuse. That abuse hinders people's development, especially children being indoctrinated rather than educated, harms the economy and causes boom and bust cycles in markets.
Fully integrated honesty is key. That we have the government we have, that has gone so far off course from the government the founders created, is a product of irrationality and dishonesty. Changing the laws via the "system" is almost completely useless. Politicians create dozens of unconstitutional laws before even considering repealing just one unconstitutional law. That is not a system -- it's a quagmire of deception, irrationality, fraud and abuse.
Voting for the lesser of evils always begets evil. How can so many people thinking they're right be so wrong?
Wake up! Politics is not the solution -- politics is the problem.
Who are the producers?
Who are the parasites?
Praise the value producers --
Ostracizing the parasitical value destroyers.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:43:48 PM PDT
by
Zon
To: fight_truth_decay
With vouchers we can expect BIG government to exert even more control over private schools than it does over public schools. That too!! Although I have been attacked for voicing that opinion. The schools will accept the vouchers, get used to the added money, go into debt for expansion and then the government will move in with its demands or threat of not allowing vouchers to be used. That makes the private school a government school.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:43:57 PM PDT
by
nanny
To: ladylib
There is a woman in the San Francisco Bay area who has home schooled all her kids. Her daughter just went in the Army. The recruiters were surprised and elated that she scored remarkably high in just about every test. They gave her something like an $18,000 bonus for enlisting. They couldn't understand why she was so far superior to all the other recruits.
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To: Let's Roll
These women should realize that not every boy wants to be a 'sissy maid'. It reminds me of those professional dominatrices who specialize in 'forced feminization' of men. At least in the latter case, the 'victims' are willing and paying for it. In the former, the victims are unwilling and their parents and every other taxpaper are footing the bill.
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posted on
04/13/2003 4:51:08 PM PDT
by
coydog
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