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THE FAILED EDUCATION "REFORMS"
(12-year old cuffed for puddle jumping)
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| April 14, 2003
| Tom DeWeese
Posted on 04/13/2003 3:23:34 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: OldEagle
How fast does society go downhill?
I was a HS freshman in '85. One of the seniors got pregnant and it was a very hush-hush type thing. She dropped out, if I remember right.
By the time I was a senior ('89), around a dozen of the freshman class were pregnant. It was no big deal.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:32:49 PM PDT
by
wbill
To: ChemistCat
"The school my kids would go to has pregnant 5th graders attending class with the other kids, ..."
How many times have these pregnant 5th graders been held back?! You'll pardon my raising my eyebrows at this statement.....
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:34:55 PM PDT
by
yooper
To: fight_truth_decay
Just a question: There is no report in the wider press of this arresst.
The only report or mention of this is by Tom DeWees, poster and orignator of the article. If there is more documentation of this incident, please post it so we can verify.
Thanks.
To: MangoCrazy
I read about this story last year. It's not current and besides, it's not that unusual a story anymore.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:42:50 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: yooper
"How many times have these pregnant 5th graders been held back?!"
Held back??? Not real commom any more.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:44:25 PM PDT
by
OldEagle
(Haven't been wrong since 1947.)
To: MangoCrazy
*The above referenced "puddle boy was cuffed". Did it really happen? Yes.
Read my comment to the story I posted and the links..all right there. First thing I do on stories are check the sources. This was not so much about a boy cuffed..but what the bigger picture is.
Respectfully
F_T_D
To: fight_truth_decay
FOLKS - WE WERE DUPPED!
THIS HAPPENED 4 YEARS AGO. HERE IS THE ARTICLE AND THE LINK:
Updated December 8, 1999, 10:25 a.m. ET
Fla. sixth-grader who stomped in puddle arrested
INVERNESS, Fla. (AP) There was no kid-glove treatment for a 12-year-old boy who stomped his feet in a puddle and sprayed classmates and a school official.
Deputy Tim Langer hauled Kyle Fredrikson off to jail Monday and charged the boy with disruption of an educational institution, a misdemeanor, for the incident.
His parents, Chuck and Brenda Fredrikson, are outraged. "The inmates had access to him. Can you imagine that for stomping in a mud puddle?" said his father.
Authorities say Kyle was walking back to class from lunch when Langer said the boy "purposely stomped in the water" after being told numerous times by school personnel to stay with the group and out of the rain.
At that point, Langer took the sixth-grader to a school office where the boy was cuffed, put in a patrol car and taken to jail. After about two hours in a holding room alone, the sixth-grader was released to the custody of his mother and grandmother.
Lt. James Martone, who oversees the school resource officer program, said Langer made a proper arrest. Inverness Middle School Principal Cindy Staten said she and sheriff's officials discussed the incident Tuesday but didn't elaborate.
Kyle's family say he has a hyperactive disorder and is in a class with similar children. Langer should have taken that into account before arresting him, they say.
Kyle was back in school Tuesday.
To: OldEagle
With the No Child Left Behind Act, lots of kids are being held back in school because they can't pass their "high-stakes" test which is mandated by the federal government.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:46:35 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: MangoCrazy
You weren't duped. These stories pop up all the time now. They aren't unusual.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:48:46 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: fight_truth_decay
Are schools out-of-control dicipline-free hell holes or socialist gulags? Lets make up our minds here people. I hear both frequently. And it's not like it comes from ideaological opposites.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:49:00 PM PDT
by
MattAMiller
(Iraq was liberated in my name, how about yours?)
To: MangoCrazy
If you dumbed up and read the whole article and the comment you will see we already know "when" the article was written. Its not about the boy as much as the whole picture.
Take the time to read!!!
F_T_D
To: ladylib
The ' duped ' Mango might be part of what we are talking about. ;)
Sorry, Mango. Try to absorb the article for more than jumping in puddles..that's not the story..read the comments so many have taken the time to so constructively post.
Respectfully
F_T_D
To: fight_truth_decay
Lt. James Martone, who oversees the school resource officer program, said Langer made a proper arrest. "He did his job," Martone said.
A cop, or his supervisor, who thinks that arresting a twelve year old for splashing in a puddle is just doing his job needs to find another line of work. Giving a gun and police authority to someone who is this gung ho is just asking for trouble. What will he do when a couple of kids take a swing at each other... shoot them?... break their heads?
The school can discipline the boy by giving him detention or making him write an essay. The parents can ground the boy for the weekend and not let him watch any T.V. That would be proper discipline for the "crime" of splashing.
To: fight_truth_decay
Mango could also do a search on zero-tolerance and come up with a whole bunch of stupidity foisted on public school students today.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:58:08 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: nanny
I'm hearing that too. I think it would be very, very bad for religious institutions to become dependent on government money. Right now, the only thing that saves them is their independence.
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posted on
04/13/2003 5:58:27 PM PDT
by
Windcatcher
("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
To: wbill
I graduated in '87 from a Catholic high school (all boys, so no pregnancy stories, hee hee). The worst thing that ever happened then was a kid got hauled off to jail for dealing coke. JUST ONE KID. It was the talk of the school. We generally knew who the handful of potheads were, but that's as far as it went. If kids got in a fight they could look forward to having it broken up by the principal, who usually did so by beating them into submission. THEN he sent them to the dean, who just happened to be a USMC Major.
We're dinosaurs today. Old farts. I'm 33 and it scares the hell out of me.
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posted on
04/13/2003 6:02:04 PM PDT
by
Windcatcher
("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
To: nanny
Mmmph, I don't think so, though I wish you were right. My husband is a military retiree. That tells you right there that while we have some security, we aren't exactly doing well. The most productive years of my husband's life were spent in the service of his country, and when he got out, he wasn't prepared to do the job he wants--teaching. Now he's jumping through all the absurd and crazy hoops of the educational unions & colleges.
My husband is working two jobs and going to school full time, while *I* am going to school 3/4 time, and we could definitely qualify for food stamps. If my husband quits one of his jobs, or is fired, we likely WILL NEED food stamps.
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posted on
04/13/2003 6:09:07 PM PDT
by
ChemistCat
(My new bumper sticker: MY OTHER DRIVER IS A ROCKET SCIENTIST)
To: fight_truth_decay
Its because its communist infiltration. Read None dare call it treason by John A. Stormer it was written in the 60's and most of it is coming to pass, the education section the culure section the church section the Russia and china section.
Its all there every single thing that he said is happening in America. The schools are infiltrated by commies in America!
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posted on
04/13/2003 6:09:46 PM PDT
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth.....)
To: Windcatcher
One dinosaur to another.....If your upbringing was anything like mine, the punishment at home was 10x what they could dish out at school.....
Of course, I got my learnin frum a public skool. :-)
Also, it was a rural school. The boys brought rifles during deer season. No one thought anything of it. Times have changed.....
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posted on
04/13/2003 6:12:51 PM PDT
by
wbill
To: TLBSHOW
The democrats nationalized education under LBJ, created the union monster, and the decline in education in America correlates perfectly with the establishment of the Federal Department of Education under Jimmy Carter.
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