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SCOTUS strikes down Texas sodomy ban
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Posted on 06/26/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

SCOTUS sided with the perverts.


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To: tdadams
Most reasonable adults would reject the spurious premise that a dog can engage in 'consensual sex' with a human.

So what physical union produced Chelsea Clinton?

841 posted on 06/26/2003 11:34:32 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Winning flame wars on the net is like winning a medal at the Special Olympics)
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To: VRWC_minion
My daughter turned 16. She is by our state's law a consenting adult. She and i agree to have consenual sex. Our right to privacy trumps the state's right to forbid us.

You can't. While legally, she may be at the age of concent, she has not yet reached the age of majority. Until then, you are still the custodian of her Rights. Once she turns 18, she's all yours.

That's just plain icky even though I'm fairly certain you are bringing this straw-man up for illustrative purposes.

842 posted on 06/26/2003 11:34:33 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: scripter
Gay agenda wins.

We lose.

I'm almost positive David Souter is a homosexual, Ginsberg is also a former dyke or a current dyke.

We need more conservative people on the Supreme Court.

And there's been rumors for years about Ted Kennedy's best friend Orrin Hatch being gay.

The Homosexual Agenda is here and WINNING like Jonah Goldberg said.

Disgusting.
843 posted on 06/26/2003 11:34:49 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: OWK
The vitriol posted in response to your reasonable request is pretty revealing. It's clear those on "the other side" have given no thought whatsoever to this issue.
844 posted on 06/26/2003 11:35:03 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Dead Corpse
If you lie, you are committing fraud. If this leads to harm done to another, or loss of their property, then yes... it should be a crime.

So, if no WMD's are found in Iraq, you will be leading the charge to try GWB before the World Court?

845 posted on 06/26/2003 11:35:15 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: OWK
I claim to have an answer which is rationally sustainable and objective.

But who defines what is "rationally sustainable" and what is "objective"?

LOL! Never mind. Don't bother answering, at least not for my benefit. I've made my point, to my own satisfaction if to no one else's. Now I can stop.

846 posted on 06/26/2003 11:36:10 AM PDT by wimpycat
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To: VRWC_minion
Consent doesn't apply to minors in the same way they cannot enter into contracts.
847 posted on 06/26/2003 11:36:26 AM PDT by ffusco
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To: HumanaeVitae
Well, the part of this I'm most concerned about is that the Court, in its quest to find some means by which to find this law unconstitutional, has now created a precedent by which homosexual marriage can be forced upon the nation. That's why I agree with Justice Thomas' dissent.
848 posted on 06/26/2003 11:37:27 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
So what physical union produced Chelsea Clinton?

Hillary and Web Hubbel, of course.

849 posted on 06/26/2003 11:37:30 AM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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To: Kevin Curry; scripter
Liberals and Libertaltarians will be the death of our country.
850 posted on 06/26/2003 11:38:17 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Grando Calrissian
If we're even here in ten years. Sulphur might rain from the sky in the meantime.
851 posted on 06/26/2003 11:38:49 AM PDT by huck von finn
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To: dead
"The Canadian Nation Anthem, presented by Buick"
852 posted on 06/26/2003 11:38:54 AM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: OWK
He said earlier- Cause she's hot!

Just kidding VRWC!

853 posted on 06/26/2003 11:39:03 AM PDT by ffusco
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To: tdadams
You're wrong. Trace answered that, but to recap, she is part of your family and as a father with authority over her, a sexual relationship with her is considered exploitation per se, to a criminal extent. Plus you're a sick man if you do that.

Like homosexuality, the miodern concept of family, the roles of fathers and sexual taboos are all religious constrainsts. You have no right to impose your religion or your view of morality on me and my daughter. She is 16 and she is at the age of consent. There are even numerous studies that say sex between parent and child is good for the child . Some cultures demand it.

so, again. Why should the state have any say over our consenual sex.

As far as a strawman argument gos, the whole point that myself and others are against deciding this as a privacy rights issue is because of the various arguments unrelated to homosexual sex that are at stake and cannot be supported with consistant logic after this ruiling.

854 posted on 06/26/2003 11:39:13 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: NittanyLion
Good explanation of the difference between a right and an entitlement.
855 posted on 06/26/2003 11:39:16 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: VRWC_minion
Non-consenual is in the eye of the beholder.

Maybe for a femenyst in a bogus rape trial it is, but for the rest of us, "Yes" and "No" are pretty clear.

Who can consent ?

All those of majority age who are of sound mind have legal capacity to consent and enter into legal contracts.

At what age ?

While the prevailing age is 18, that decision of at what age people become competent to assert their own rights and best interests is best left to localities.

Who can judge acts done in privacy ?

Judges. If someone is raped in their bedroom, it's a judge who does the judging of the rapist.

856 posted on 06/26/2003 11:39:56 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: Bisesi
Article IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,...

That's a right to privacy no matter how you slice it.

857 posted on 06/26/2003 11:40:32 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (White Devils for Sharpton. We're bad. We're Nationwide)
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To: Elsie
"Every time I was an adulterer, it was by CONSENT! "

You managed to get the consent of the spouse of the person you suborned to break their marital vows?! DANG -- that's some smooth work there!
858 posted on 06/26/2003 11:40:37 AM PDT by teech (You can read this: thank your teachers. You're FREE to read this: thank our Veterans.)
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To: VRWC_minion
cannot be supported with consistant logic after this ruiling.

This case and the Michigan law school case prove that logic and principles do not count. The court can vote anyway it wants depending on what they consider "a compelling state interest"

859 posted on 06/26/2003 11:40:49 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Ohio Chapter. Original White Devil for Sharpton!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
4 of the 6 justices in the majority on this decision were appointed by Republicans.
860 posted on 06/26/2003 11:41:13 AM PDT by B Knotts
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