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The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy
Rush Limbaugh ^ | June 30, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/30/2003 3:59:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy

June 30, 2003

Depending on where you go and in what circles you travel, conservatives are livid with the Bush administration. Some, more so than others, are furious over the size of the federal budget, the failing to rein in any kind of spending, tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the list continues - and there’s a great deal of head scratching going on.

I came across an Associated Press story over the weekend that attempts to shed some light on what’s happening, which you can hear me read in the audio links below. However, the story seems to imply there’s a conspiracy between the White House and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Here’s just one excerpt: “DeLay has become the most identifiable representative of the party's right wing, and the two Texans have had a sometimes scrappy relationship. Clashes may become more frequent as Bush moves beyond his current phase of fund raising among loyal Republicans and shifts his attention to the general electorate, analysts suggest. At the same time, Bush and his advisers are mindful that if they go too far, they could alienate conservatives whose support he needs. ‘Bush is carefully picking and choosing his fights,’ said GOP consultant Scott Reed. ‘There's a healthy back and forth between the White House staff and DeLay that is mutually beneficial to both.’”

The story continues to suggest that Bush is telling DeLay to go ahead and stop what he’s trying to do - on purpose. The idea being that Bush can thus claim credit for supporting whatever measure, while DeLay and other conservatives can point to victory for blocking its ultimate passage. A caller later asked: “Isn't this the same strategy that Bush used on campaign finance reform, only he is counting on the Supreme Court to shoot it down?” You can hear my answer below.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; conservatives; conspiracy; delay
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To: All
Looks like I need to post this again:

As for the House plan, those that have attacked it should instead support it, as it promotes conservative ideals.

"One key difference is that the House bill would go further in reforming Medicare, forcing traditional Medicare to compete directly against the private plans starting in 2010."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/937657/posts

We have to make sure this survives conference or the status quo is retained.
101 posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:24 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Howlin
I talk to Republicans AND Democrats who did not vote for Bush last time and they ARE going to vote for him in 2004.

I speak with lots of sheeple on a daily basis too. So, what's your point?

102 posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:31 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: habs4ever
I call you bushbots as in robots. Mindless robots that agree with and support everything Bush says and does. Whether you are more stupid than Dems I don't know that would be going pretty far. As for supporting the fringe I supported Bush with my time and money in 2000, I won't do it again. Will I vote for him maybe, it depends on my choices. But I won't blindly support any candidate right or wrong like the Dems did Clinton,and like I am afraid many of you would do with Bush. A thinking individual demands something from the candidates that he votes for. As for being cowered you would have to be intelligent enough to understand what the comment meant first to be cowered.
103 posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:53 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Howlin
I talk to Republicans AND Democrats who did not vote for Bush last time and they ARE going to vote for him in 2004.

And that says something to me: that he is the president of ALL the people,

(not just the "PPO conservatives." )
.........

Look up, way up, higher, a little higher,

..OK

FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum"
104 posted on 06/30/2003 8:26:09 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Southack
That's nice. Do you have a certain "anti-illegal" candidate in mind, or do you simply want to be divisive?

I am not much intrested in an "anti-illegal" candidate, however a "pro-soveriegnty would be refreshing.

Divisive, I hadn't noticed that I was being devisive, but if you want me to be, I can.

105 posted on 06/30/2003 8:26:44 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Howlin
I wouldn't be mistaken about it Howlin, I saw him say it. I'm sure he wasn't serious, but he wasn't smiling when he said it.
106 posted on 06/30/2003 8:27:07 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Crap, he might run again?
107 posted on 06/30/2003 8:27:29 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: DoughtyOne
Now you've done it; left him "cut and paste-less."
108 posted on 06/30/2003 8:27:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: redangus
I call you bushbots as in robots. Mindless robots that agree with and support everything Bush says and does. Whether you are more stupid than Dems I don't know that would be going pretty far. As for supporting the fringe I supported Bush with my time and money in 2000, I won't do it again. Will I vote for him maybe, it depends on my choices. But I won't blindly support any candidate right or wrong like the Dems did Clinton,and like I am afraid many of you would do with Bush. A thinking individual demands something from the candidates that he votes for. As for being cowered you would have to be intelligent enough to understand what the comment meant first to be cowered.

Since I have seen that exact same post in one form or another on this forum for the last few months, what would that make you?

A serial poster?

A macro?

109 posted on 06/30/2003 8:29:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DoughtyOne
I like your tag line. Can I rent it? LOL
110 posted on 06/30/2003 8:29:42 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: redangus
yeah, yeah, yeah...so, you've decided that anyone that isn't as opposed to Bush as you is unthinking?
111 posted on 06/30/2003 8:30:06 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: MissAmericanPie
I'm sure he wasn't serious

Perhaps you should have indicated that in your first definitive statement.

112 posted on 06/30/2003 8:30:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I don't know I have only posted it once, so great minds must thing alike.
113 posted on 06/30/2003 8:32:01 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Howlin
Hi Howlin. How are you tonight? Fine I hope. I consider most folks on this forum to be my friends. I like TBLShow, Miss Marple and you. I hope each of you are having a great Monday evening.

D1
114 posted on 06/30/2003 8:32:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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To: TLBSHOW
Libertarian isn't and never will be conservative.Deal with it.Svelte, buff one ;-)
115 posted on 06/30/2003 8:32:13 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Howlin; Fred Mertz
It was right after the election battle, he was tired, and he said "I might not seek a second term". It was a stunner I couldn't believe slipped by the media. Since it did, I assumed he didn't mean it.
116 posted on 06/30/2003 8:33:01 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Howlin; Sir Gawain
Since I have seen that exact same post in one form or another on this forum for the last few months...

Prove it.

117 posted on 06/30/2003 8:33:22 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: habs4ever
Well we used to call the Clinton kool-aid drinkers clintonistas, so we needed something orginal for the Bushies. I can't take credit for the term, but it does seem to fit so many on this site anymore.
118 posted on 06/30/2003 8:34:49 PM PDT by redangus
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To: TLBSHOW
No, but you can copy it and use it or modify it and use it if you like. The idea is to make people a little uncomfortable, not drive them over the edge. Safe driving... ;-)
119 posted on 06/30/2003 8:34:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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To: My2Cents
I had the same thought, reading this latest screed. We know the Dems will do anything. Going head-to-head with Bush doesn't look like a winning stragerey, so if they can sow discord among Republicans...it's worth a try (from their perspective).

Makes sense to me

120 posted on 06/30/2003 8:35:01 PM PDT by Mo1
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