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Phila Eagles Are Ready to Set up Training camp in Bethlehem, PA
Morning Call ^ | 7/22/03 | Larry O'Rourke

Posted on 07/22/2003 6:39:14 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

It's Birdwatching time again in Bethlehem, PA.

Philadelphia Eagles rookies and selected veterans will report to training camp at Lehigh University Friday and hit the practice fields Saturday and Sunday for workouts at 10:30 a.m. and 3:05 p.m. each day, according to a schedule released by the team Monday.

The remainder of the Eagles will arrive in camp next Monday and the entire preseason roster will begin two-a-day workouts on July 30. Those practices, which are open to the public, are scheduled for 8:45 a.m. and 2:15 or 2:45 p.m. each day the Eagles are at Lehigh University and not traveling to or from preseason exhibition games.

Daily autograph sessions are scheduled for after the morning practices.

Aug. 2 and 5 figure to be the most popular days because quarterback Donovan McNabb is scheduled to sign those days.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


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To: Last Visible Dog; Owl_Eagle; NittanyLion
The Eagles WILL be worse than the Redskins this year.

You Iggle fans going to take that (smiling as I stir the pot).

41 posted on 07/22/2003 1:54:04 PM PDT by MattinNJ (As soon as we could see out of our big black eye, man, we lit up your world like the 4th of July)
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To: hobbes1
HEAVY FOOTBALL THREAD. (I took some serious shots -replies 12 and 15 to my post # 7). Just don't tell anyone you're a Jets fan ;-)
42 posted on 07/22/2003 2:02:59 PM PDT by MattinNJ (As soon as we could see out of our big black eye, man, we lit up your world like the 4th of July)
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To: amused
BIG BLUE SHALL ROMP AND STOMP.
43 posted on 07/22/2003 2:07:54 PM PDT by MattinNJ (As soon as we could see out of our big black eye, man, we lit up your world like the 4th of July)
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To: HenryLeeII

Also, according to league stats, the Eagles are consistently millions under the cap.

No, each November they resign several young veteran players and spend all the way up to the cap.

Since '99, aside from the extremely high picks, how many good players have Snyder and company mined out of the draft?-O_E

Your claim that the Skins have drafted poorly is bogus.-HenryLeeII

You make my point here though.  Every player you named was either a first or second round pick.  Going back through the drafts since Snyder took over, I don't see the names of any players that contribute from the third round or day two.  As far as Kenny Watson, he's a nice find for an UDFA, but he made his hay against two of the worst Rush defending teams in the NFL-  Houston (28th) and Seattle (32nd) (his only two 100 yard games).  I can't say that he's one of the better young backs in the league.

Teams are seldom built through F.A. signings, and rarely through high profile signings.  They're built though shrewd drafting and player development.  Until Snyder realizes this, the Redskins will continue to disappoint year after year.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

44 posted on 07/22/2003 2:10:38 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel ("Europeans lost the will to live the moral life long ago." - Ben Shapiro)
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To: MattinNJ
You Iggle fans going to take that (smiling as I stir the pot).

No one is taking the bait. Guess it is still a bit early.

: - )

45 posted on 07/22/2003 4:04:25 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I haven't been to a Phillies game yet this year, but hopefully will make at least one. I think we will take hoagies to the Vet.

I really prefer to watch the Eagles on television. I'll eat my hoagies in front of the set. That is great news about your daughters. I hope--hey, I'm sure they will be very happy.

46 posted on 07/22/2003 7:20:23 PM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: Last Visible Dog
The Eagles WILL be worse than the Redskins this year. Mark my words.

The Redskins will be lucky to win 7 games this year. Snyder, Spurrier & Co. don't have an attention span of more than about 4 games. One day they'll mature enough to be somewhat dangerous...

47 posted on 07/23/2003 4:25:24 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Owl_Eagle
No offense(this is a sports topic so don't get too heated in response) but your analysis of the Redskins leaves MUCH to be desired.

In fact, if one is going to be completely ignorant of the Skins one should refrain from commenting on them altogether. :)

On the other hand, the Eagles playoff choking is on display for all to see in the home-away laboratory of the NFC Title game. Good thing the refs had it in for the Falcs in the divisional game last year ;)
48 posted on 07/23/2003 4:30:03 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Owl_Eagle
Uh, except that every team has large turnover every year due to the salary cap, free agency and non-guaranteed contracts. Not all of the skins signings(like Lennie Friedmann) are high-profile.

And who among us would say: No, keep those turnstiles they had at Guard last year?

Who says, let's keep less talent in place, that'll work!?

No, every team seeks to improve talent. Development of players is nice, but getting young guys who are not old, whiny, set-in-their-ways veterans is a complete turnaround from 2000, so what's the problem?

In addition, in 2000, the issue wasn't the big names. Even Deion won the Skins a couple games. It was a horrific spate of injuries, a terrible and gutless coach and an endless cast of kickers, all equally inaccurate.

Hence, bringing in John Hall whose stats show that away from the winds of the Meadowlands, he's accurate.
49 posted on 07/23/2003 4:33:44 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
On the other hand, the Eagles playoff choking is on display for all to see in the home-away laboratory of the NFC Title game.

I'm sure the Skins all had a perfect view of the game, courtesy of Fox Sports. Or perhaps they were golfing and missed it?

50 posted on 07/23/2003 4:43:07 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Whoa, I had no idea this thread was a Jints/Iggles/Skins flamewar! (so where are the Cowgirl fans...?)

The road in the NFC will still go through TB, but stars sure seem to be aligned for the G-MEN this year. Glaring (and exploited) weak link Sehorn is gone. Special teams FINALLY revamped. Keith Hamilton reportedly OK, and Fassell RAVING about rookie DLs in spring camp (Miami Hurricane William Joseph and Osi Umenyiora (sp?)).

Their offense was something else last December, and that was with only ONE wide receiver (Hilliard, Dixon, Carter were out, they literally never threw to replacement guy Daryl Jones). Teams had NO solution to Shockey, Barber and Toomer, and now Hilliard is BACK. Throw Dorsey Levens in the mix, and is it possible the Giants could be the #1 offense in the NFL????

GO BIG BLUE!!!!

51 posted on 07/23/2003 4:57:21 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: NittanyLion
Three...THREE. Eagles--ZERO...ZERO.

That's all I'm going to say.
52 posted on 07/23/2003 5:52:16 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Jhensy
The road in the NFC will still go through TB

Hey Hey Tampa Bay! Go Bucs!

We got Philly first game of the season, I think. What a way to start the season!

53 posted on 07/23/2003 6:03:12 AM PDT by Grizzly Bear
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To: Grizzly Bear
Who really cares about the Eagles? Your right everyone has to go through TB, even the KC Chiefs, however that will be in January sometime. East Coast teams are worthless, even the College teams!
54 posted on 07/23/2003 6:07:08 AM PDT by DocJ69
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To: Skywalk
What've ya done for me lately?
55 posted on 07/23/2003 6:33:30 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Last Visible Dog
No one is taking the bait.

I think its because they see the BIG BLUE writing on the wall :-)

56 posted on 07/23/2003 8:32:22 AM PDT by MattinNJ (As soon as we could see out of our big black eye, man, we lit up your world like the 4th of July)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Your replies are difficult to read for two reasons: First, the font you use is hard on my eyes; and secondly, the tears of laughter you elicit obscure the hard-to-read font.

You obviously cut-and-paste some website's list of the Redskins free agent signings for the past few years without reading it. Bruce Smith, Larry Centers, Daryl Gardner, Andy Heck, and others were all productive signings for us. Santana Dotson was injured in training camp before he ever had a chance to play. The former University of Florida players (Anthony, Matthews, Wuerffel, etc.) were signed because they were "cheap and available" and were familiar with Coach Spurrier's philosophy and terminology. Our draft picks have been as solid as most teams if you would bother to look at them. And no, Super Bowls are not won by player development anymore, the way it was done before the free agency era. Teams are relying on rookies and second-year guy to come in and contribute immediately, in addition to re-stocking and re-tooling with free agents.

57 posted on 07/23/2003 10:25:27 AM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: HenryLeeII

If the signings have been so good, why are the Redskins 0-1 in the playoffs in the four seasons under Snyder's reign? 
 
Darryl Gardner's 4 sacks hardly constitutes a Pro Bowl Caliber season. 
 
Andy Heck was the definite weak spot on the line his last two years and is a sterling example of paying on past performance.  11 years into his career, his prime was 1993-5.  He didn't retire after the 2000 season because he was still a productive player.
 
Bruce Smith was a dominant pass rusher from '89 to '97, but look at his sack totals since he's been with the 'Skins- 10, 5, 7.  That's worth 5-6 Million a year???
 
 
Face it, your owner is a laughing stock, and your defense of him is pitiful.
 
 
 

Owl_Eagle

” WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"



58 posted on 07/23/2003 10:59:21 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel ("Europeans lost the will to live the moral life long ago." - Ben Shapiro)
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To: LIBERATENJ
I wish there was some way to have NCAA football played during the NFL offseason. That way, I'd be happy 12 months a year.
59 posted on 07/23/2003 11:01:30 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

If the signings have been so good, why are the Redskins 0-1 in the playoffs in the four seasons under Snyder's reign? Actually, we are 1-1 in that period, with the same number of Super Bowl championships as the Beagles.

Darryl Gardner's 4 sacks hardly constitutes a Pro Bowl Caliber season. Gardner was brought in for his run-stopping ability. Critics that I have read on cnnsi.com, espn.com, etc., praised his play. Also, the Redskins' defense has finished in the league's top ten each of the past three seasons (despite having a different coordinator each year), leading the team to the same number of Super Bowl championships as the Beagles in that period.

Andy Heck was the definite weak spot on the line his last two years and is a sterling example of paying on past performance. 11 years into his career, his prime was 1993-5. He didn't retire after the 2000 season because he was still a productive player. Heck was released by the Redskins because of injury, as I've stated before. If you had seen any of the games you would know that he was a steady performer, definitely not a weak spot (you are the first person, probably ever, to make that assertion), and helped lead the Redskins to the same number of Super Bowl championships as the Beagles during his tenure with the team.

Bruce Smith was a dominant pass rusher from '89 to '97, but look at his sack totals since he's been with the 'Skins- 10, 5, 7. That's worth 5-6 Million a year??? First of all, not many defensive ends are at their prime at age 38 or 40. However, he is still productive, and is not making $5M-$6M per season as you assert, because he has willingly accepted a pay-cut in order to help the team (just like Darrell Green did two seasons ago). Bruce asserts pressure on the QB, still draws a double-team, and has been instrumental in leading the glorious warriors in Burgundy & Gold to as many Super Bowl championships as the Beagles during his tenure.

Face it, your owner is a laughing stock, and your defense of him is pitiful. No, Owl-Eagle, the owner of the Redskins has been drawing begrudging respect from the New York-dominated media (Dr. Z, Don Banks, Peter King, etc.), and my defense of him is based on the fact that he is as passionate in his love for the team as I and all Redskins fans are. You see, we don't need to have a winning season to get fans into our stadium; the Redskins' home games have been sold out since the Johnson administration (we hold the record for most consecutive sell outs), and we don't require a police station and jail cell in our facility. We come out and have a good time, rooting our beloved team onto three Super Bowl championships (three more than the Beagles posses), five NFC championships (four more than the Beagles have), and more division championships and playoff victories than the Beagles have ever garnered. The true laughingstock in this is the Philadelphia thugs who call themselves fans, assault Santa Claus, taunt opposing players lying on the ground with career-ending injuries, and don't even bother showing up in the lean years.

60 posted on 07/23/2003 11:23:16 AM PDT by HenryLeeII
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