The world's next superpower

Taipei Times ^ | 07.23.03 | Jonathan Fenby

[The Pheonix]

Plse don't forget History, ie that China war totally feudal and only began to modernize in 1911, but even then this modernization process were disruped again and again and again, first by Japan attacking in 1938, (WW2 1938-1945), the Civil war between the Communist and the Nationalist 1945-1949, the Great-leap foward Madness of Mao, the Cultural revolution 1965-1978. And overall , China did not invent anything much from 1922-1978, is because they were too busy with either fighting or politicing. also they DID NOT spend any money resorces on R & D. R & D cost money

But plse observe that once they began the Reform nd Open-Door policy in 1978, they began to modernizes pretty fast---too fast for comfort

[Travis McGee]

China ping.

[logic]

"Try not paying your taxes and see what happens!"

Heck, just try re-roofing your house without (Government permission) a permit....

[Brian Allen]

<< Your declarations seem overwrought to me . . . >>

That's a nice way to put it. Droll! That was my intent.

The Peter-Principled I was referring to, though, are those in America's corporations not in China's. My wife and half of my famaily are of Chinese ethnicity and, as the experience of Once-Free-British Hong Kong demonstrates and I can vouch, outside of Peking there aren't too many idiots among the Chinese People.

But our Peter Principled are of the execrable variety that will sell Peking's psychopaths the rope with which they would hang us -- and weapons with which those mandarin-wannabe thieves and liars and mass-murderers would, if they could, destroy Our Nation and with US, Human Civilization.

And Chase and BoA and CitiBank et al, who will bump our credit card interest rates a few points to pay for it all -- and the institutionalized fraud misnamed the "ExIm Bank" will send the bill for the balance to Treasury.

[Quix]

FARRRRRRR

TOO MUCH

TRUTH

in what you say.

Thanks.

[Quix]

True.

AT least seemingly.

[Quix]

You're probably right about the disappearances.

They must have video coverage of every public nook and crany and vista.

And they are ruthless, relentless, persistent and patient about revenge.

[headsonpikes]

"Siberia is supposed to be vast and rich in resources..."

It is, and the Chinese will be demanding 'access' soon enough.

They may also wish to 'revisit' certain old border-adjusting treaties with Russia.

[SauronOfMordor]

But in view of the fact that the US has enough nuclear might (superiority) to vaporize the whole of China, this alone will make the Chinese think twice before they even dare to dream of world conquest

It doesn't have to be an out-right military conquest. They can be subtle and long-range about it, with Chinese investors coming in and opening companies that would hire Filipinos to do various things. With that would come pressure to allow more Chinese "executives" and "technicians" in, along with some bribes to officials to make it easier. At no point would China need to be openly aggressive.

Then if "civil unrest" threatened the safety of Chinese nationals, they could "help".

Yes the US has nukes. So does China. Will the US be willing to trade the major cities on our west coast to stop China taking the Phillipeans? We may find ourselves in that position some day. And the Chinese can wait until we have a prez that would not be interested in the trade

[Constitutional Patriot]

Aren't all of the tycoons communist party elite?

[Jeff Head]

Thanks bro. Harpseal pinged me at 28, gillman spoke to me at 67 and I responded at 77.

The evidence and actions regarding the PRC's intent and plans are obvious for all to see who want to open their eyes. I pray more will open their eyes.

It was with that hope that I embarked on the entire Dragon's Fury Series project.

[The Pheonix]

You brought out good , valid points

That's why it is vital for the US to take advanstage of her wealth to spend more on R&D in order to be always ahead of China.

it is thru R&D that the US could maintain her miltary superiority, in order to keep China in check

Having true meritocracy in American universities is important for the US to be the best in the IT and Scientific field

[SauronOfMordor]

What do you think a population gender imbalance of 60-40 men to women (or worse) would be like?

According to CIA World Factbook, it's more like 109 boys for every 100 girls in the 0-14 generation, so it's not that bad

[logic]

"But in view of the fact that the US has enough nuclear might (superiority) to vaporize the whole of China, this alone will make the Chinese think twice before they even dare to dream of world conquest"

I don't think the MAD idea works nearly as well with them as it did with Russia. We always enjoyed a pretty sizeable technological advantage over Russia, we either are loosing that advantage with China or we have already lost it thanks to the 'Felon in Chief.' They know we would never launch unless we were backed to a wall or recieved a first strike. I think they would attack in such a way that we look like we have hope until they gain enough control to prevent us from launching, then they would show who really was in control.

Not necesarily factual, but it's my take on the situation. : )

[RogueIsland]

The Chinese Supermen, who have created all the many inventions we enjoy today, including...uh, ummmm, uh...

The Chinese had moveable type in 1045 A.D. They were making paper perhaps has early as 5 A.D., but certainly by 105 A.D. They invented Gunpowder in the eighth century. They were using magnetic compasses for marine navigation by the 11th century.

Say what you will about the Chinese, but they are not historically an ignorant or uninventive people.

[Travis McGee]

I should have figured! Nothing like having a network of pingers looking out for you!

[adx]

You will first have to translate that into English for me. I dont speak any German. :)

Translates in English as "Night and Fog". References Nazi Germany, where those that got uppity got quietly "disappeared". Since doing stuff like Tianamen Square is too public, it's better (for the guys at the top) to just "disappear" dissidents quietly, so the regime doesn't get the PR hit.

[logic]

"I think now, they'd bring out the water canon and remove people with a minimum of deaths if at all possible. "

Don't you mean: I think now, they'd bring out the water canon and remove people with a minimum of PUBLIC deaths if at all possible. Then kill them later....

Not to put words in your mouth or anything..... : )

[SauronOfMordor]

That's why it is vital for the US to take advanstage of her wealth to spend more on R&D in order to be always ahead of China.

Currently, the bulk of US R&D will be done by Chinese and Indian grad students in US universities -- who will return with those skills to their native countries

The most valuable intellectual wealth of a country is not in its patent files or published scientific papers -- it is in the skulls of the people who are doing the work. It's hard to transfer skill purely by books and papers -- sometimes you need to work alongside people who know what their doing and absorb it by osmosis.

The way the US lost its immense tech lead was by letting in so many foreign tech students, who then returned to their home countries with knowledge that US companies had spent large fortunes to figure out.

[The Pheonix]

Re you post # 119

Too true