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1 posted on 08/07/2003 4:22:34 PM PDT by dead
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To: dead
I preferred the myth.
2 posted on 08/07/2003 4:25:28 PM PDT by ambrose
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This does not diminish the heroism of the passengers.
3 posted on 08/07/2003 4:25:37 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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I'll still give 'em credit. They ultimately put a crimp in the hijkackers plans.
4 posted on 08/07/2003 4:25:39 PM PDT by TomServo ("Laura Petri, you are charged with treason!")
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This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls.

Am I overly sensitive, or is there a triumphant tone to this article? Like the writer is happy that the "heroism" story is tainted in his eyes?

I don't know why, exactly, I get that impression, but I do.

5 posted on 08/07/2003 4:26:08 PM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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I will continue to believe the passengers were hero's...
6 posted on 08/07/2003 4:26:27 PM PDT by Dog (: "And good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing 'This'll be the day Saddam dies...'")
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U.S. investigators now believe that a hijacker in the cockpit aboard United Airlines Flight 93 instructed terrorist-pilot Ziad Jarrah to crash the jetliner into a Pennsylvania field because of a passenger uprising in the cabin.

This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls

Sentence 2 contradicts sentence 1.

7 posted on 08/07/2003 4:27:54 PM PDT by WarrenC
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"Separately, the data recorder showed the plane's wings rocking violently as the jet flew too low and too fast for safe flight."

If you're trying to crash a flight, why spend any time flying in an unsafe matter. Just put the nose to the ground and accelerate. Perhaps the pilot didn't know how to fly very well, and the uprising distracted him enough to lose control of the plane completely.

13 posted on 08/07/2003 4:31:00 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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The plane did not make it to its target because the passengers fought back. That is the bottom line. I believe any muslimes that have similar ideas about hijacking planes know that from the second they stand up to take the plane, they will be swarmed by people that know it is kill or be killed.
14 posted on 08/07/2003 4:31:08 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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>>...because of a passenger uprising in the cabin...<<

Isn't the "cockpit" on an airliner called the "cabin"?

If so, then an "uprising" in the cabin by passengers was the cause of the crash. Meaning the passengers CAUSED THE CRASH.

Heros still, in spite of Reuters.

17 posted on 08/07/2003 4:31:50 PM PDT by FReepaholic (My other tag line is hilarious.)
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...one of the hijackers "advised Jarrah to crash the plane and end the passengers' attempt to retake the airplane."

This is totally implausible.

The hijacker's mission was to fly the plane into some building. They couldn't have cared less what the passangers were doing as long as they, the hijackers, had control of the plane. They would have continued on their mission.

The passengers forced that plane down, one way or another.

19 posted on 08/07/2003 4:32:43 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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No American airliner should ever be hijacked, EVER again. It'll be taken down first.

Potential highjackers should just know that.

27 posted on 08/07/2003 4:35:29 PM PDT by onedoug
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It was the passenger uprising that prevented Flight 93 from its terrorist destination.

Whether the heroic passengers managed to gain access to the cockpit doesn't really matter. Those heroic passengers, whatever they did, prevented Flight 93 from its Washington DC destination of terror.

They, the passengers of Flight 93, were and remain heroes. Nothing can diminish that fact. They sacrificed their own lives to stop the terrorist plot; countless others at some unknown ground location are alive today as a result. And that is heroism.
28 posted on 08/07/2003 4:35:50 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Citing transcripts of the still-secret cockpit recordings,

Give it up Feebs.....We know our heroes....let's not denigrate our own by keeping back some truths that need to be known.

Our people stood up. If that flight crashed intentionally because they stood up..then we know how cowardly an act it was.

30 posted on 08/07/2003 4:36:16 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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investigators now believe that a hijacker in the cockpit aboard United Airlines Flight 93 instructed terrorist-pilot Ziad Jarrah to crash the jetliner into a Pennsylvania field because of a passenger uprising in the cabin.

This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls.

The authors conclusions are not supported by the facts in the article. The If the passegers had not attempted to take control of the plane, the hijackers would have either crashed their plane into the White House or the Capitol unless an Air National Guard plane (unarmed) had rammed Flight 93 first.

The passenger were heroes. They new that if they did nothing they would be dead, and that their plane would be used to kill hundreds or thousands of people on the ground. They also knew an important landmark building would be destroyed. No, contrary to the leftist drivel of this Reuters article the passengers were heroes. Also, the hijackers proved themselves to be cowards like all the islamonazi jihadists.

53 posted on 08/07/2003 4:51:22 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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Simple, the passengers attempted to take back the aircraft, and in doing so left the frigging Hijackers no choice but to crash the airplane. The important thing to remember is that the TARGET was either the White House or the Capitol Bldg. Heroes ALL no matter the particulars because the MISSION was definitely not accomplished.
69 posted on 08/07/2003 5:00:49 PM PDT by PISANO
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While I firmly believe that the passangers were heros, I just as firmly believe that the inflight seperation of one of the powerplants and one of the main landing gear assemblies, several miles prior to impact, would have been almost impossible to percipitate by the actions of the passangers or the illicit flight crew.
82 posted on 08/07/2003 5:28:07 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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The bottom line is that the plane did not hit any target, and that is because the passengers fought. I do not see where anything has changed about the story really ...
91 posted on 08/07/2003 5:34:52 PM PDT by hemogoblin (The few, the proud, the 537.)
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the rebellious passengers prevented the Islamist from slamming the plane into the White House, a nuclear plant or the Capitol.....

what they did was the truest form of heroism.....they could have crouched down in a fetal position and cried but they didn't....they diverted the plane from causing perhaps thousands of deaths....

I thank them always....

95 posted on 08/07/2003 5:39:11 PM PDT by cherry
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If this story is indeed true it's because the hijackers knew they were gonna get a major ass-kickin'!

Would like to have seen it.

113 posted on 08/07/2003 5:51:06 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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The maggot crashed the plane because the passengers were coming to kick his ass. It was still the passenger heroism that caused the mission to fail.

Screw the report, the passengers are still heroes.

116 posted on 08/07/2003 5:52:54 PM PDT by hattend
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