[Alberta's Child]

When I said "they weren't successful" I meant that the passengers were not successful in entering the cockpit.

That plane crashed with an Islamic hijacker at the wheel. It did not crash with a gang of passengers pouring into the cockpit. It did not crash with Wesley Snipes throwing a hijacker out the door. It did not crash as a result of a passenger named MacGyver making a hand grenade out of his airline meal utensils and throwing it in the cockpit.

[TomB]

That plane crashed with an Islamic hijacker at the wheel. It did not crash with a gang of passengers pouring into the cockpit. It did not crash with Wesley Snipes throwing a hijacker out the door. It did not crash as a result of a passenger named MacGyver making a hand grenade out of his airline meal utensils and throwing it in the cockpit.

I don't ever recall hearing that they gained control of the plane. My impression always was that they caused enough of a disturbance so as to cause the plane to crash. So I guess I'm behind on this one, because what is said to have happened in the article is exactly what I thought happened.

But you never told us what that "other reason" might be.

[Pukka Puck]

"That plane crashed with an Islamic hijacker at the wheel."

Why there? Why then? The fact of the matter is the barbarians were at the gate making for a major distraction. It was only a matter of time before the terrorists guarding the door were overwhelmed and the terrorists inside the cockpit knew it.

[cyncooper]

That plane crashed with an Islamic hijacker at the wheel. It did not crash with a gang of passengers pouring into the cockpit. It did not crash with Wesley Snipes throwing a hijacker out the door. It did not crash as a result of a passenger named MacGyver making a hand grenade out of his airline meal utensils and throwing it in the cockpit

But it did crash with passengers moving forward and one flight attendant boiling water to throw on the hijackers. I always wonder if she was able to pull that off...but the intent was there at the very least.