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Hijacker Crashed Flight 93 on 9/11
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 8/7/03 | TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/07/2003 4:22:34 PM PDT by dead

WASHINGTON - U.S. investigators now believe that a hijacker in the cockpit aboard United Airlines Flight 93 instructed terrorist-pilot Ziad Jarrah to crash the jetliner into a Pennsylvania field because of a passenger uprising in the cabin.

This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls.

The government's findings — laid out deep within the report on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that was sent to Congress last month — aim to resolve one of the enduring mysteries of the deadliest terror attacks in U.S. history: What happened in the final minutes aboard Flight 93?

The FBI strenuously maintains that its analysis does not diminish the heroism of passengers who — with the words "Let's roll" — apparently rushed down the airliner's narrow aisle to try to overtake the hijackers.

President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft have regularly praised the courage of those aboard Flight 93, some of whom told family members by telephone they were planning to storm the cockpit.

"While no one will ever know exactly what transpired in the final minutes of Flight 93, every shred of evidence indicates this plane crashed because of the heroic actions of the passengers," FBI spokeswoman Susan Whitson said Thursday.

Thirty-three passengers, seven crew members and the four hijackers died.

Citing transcripts of the still-secret cockpit recordings, FBI Director Robert Mueller told congressional investigators in a closed briefing last year that, minutes before Flight 93 hit the ground, one of the hijackers "advised Jarrah to crash the plane and end the passengers' attempt to retake the airplane."

Jarrah is thought to have been the terrorist-pilot because he was the only of the four hijackers aboard known to have a pilot's license.

Mueller's description was disclosed in a brief passage far into the 858-page report to Congress. Previous statements by FBI and other government officials have been ambiguous about what occurred in the cockpit.

Mueller's explanation was based on the FBI's efforts to decipher the cacophonous sounds on the cockpit recorder and produce a comprehensive transcript, said one official, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The FBI is convinced it may never know for certain what transpired in those final moments, but Mueller represented the information as the FBI's leading theory, this official said.

The same cockpit recording was played privately in April 2002 for family members of victims aboard Flight 93, and the FBI also provided them with its best effort at producing an understandable transcript.

Some family members indicated afterward they were led to believe that passengers used a food cart as a shield and successfully broke into the cockpit.

The FBI has been loath to publicly put forward a contradictory theory out of sensitivity to the families and because of uncertainty about what happened.

People who have heard the recording describe it as nearly indecipherable, containing static noises, cockpit alarms and wind interspersed with cries in English and Arabic. Near the end of the tape, sounds can be heard of breaking glass and crashing dishes — lending credence to the theory that passengers used the food cart to rush the jetliner's narrow aisle.

Separately, the data recorder showed the plane's wings rocking violently as the jet flew too low and too fast for safe flight.

Intelligence officials believe the likely target for Flight 93 was the White House, based on information from Abu Zubaydah, a senior al-Qaida terrorist leader in U.S. custody who is believed to have played a key role in organizing the Sept. 11 attacks.

Prosecutors have sought a U.S. judge's permission to play recordings from Flight 93 during the terrorism trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the only defendant in a U.S. case prosecutors have directly tied to the attacks. Moussaoui is accused of conspiring with the hijackers.

The government has said it can link Moussaoui to Jarrah, using a telephone number found on a business card recovered at the Shanksville, Pa., crash site. Prosecutors believe the card belonged to Jarrah and that Moussaoui had called the same number.

Moussaoui has acknowledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida but says he was not involved in the attacks.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911report; americanheroes; blessthemall; fbi; flight93; godblessthem; heroes; jarrah; letsroll; moussaoui; robertmueller; targets; whitehouse
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To: Silas
It is obvious that you are a dolt.
101 posted on 08/07/2003 5:44:04 PM PDT by Pukka Puck
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To: spodefly
this is "pc" b.s. as far as i'm concerned. can't have the terrorists thinking that ordinary citizens will fight back just when we have new reports that perhaps they are planning the same thing again.
102 posted on 08/07/2003 5:44:08 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: Pukka Puck
They WERE successful in stopping the plane from hitting its target, unless you think the target was an empty field.

Read more carefully!

He's saying that the terrorist just happened to lose control of the plane, in straight and level flight, at the exact same time the passengers were making a little fuss in the back. It's all a big coincidence.

Makes a lot more sense now, doesn't it. :)

103 posted on 08/07/2003 5:44:20 PM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
Nothing cynical about it. I've known for a long time that the passengers did not seize control of the plane, or even make it into the cockpit.

Some other folks here are speculating about the size of the debris field. I could add some fuel to that speculation, too.

104 posted on 08/07/2003 5:44:22 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Silas
US warplane shot down this plane. It is obvious but it is not what the public wants to hear. It was tragic but necessary to shoot the plane down. It explains why the wreckage was found spread about over several miles.

Wreckage was not spread out over several miles.

There is no evidence the plane was shot down. None.

In addition, that would be the secret too big to keep.

105 posted on 08/07/2003 5:46:18 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I've got brown sandwiches, and green sandwiches." Oscar Madison in THE ODD COUPLE.)
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To: grayout
At least we agree.
106 posted on 08/07/2003 5:46:43 PM PDT by Pukka Puck
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To: Alberta's Child
If the aircraft crashed for some other reason

And what would that "reason be?

Remember, your post made the specific statement "The point is that they weren't successful."

So you obviously know more than we do. Please enlighten us.

107 posted on 08/07/2003 5:46:47 PM PDT by TomB
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To: HitmanNY
There are a number of loose ends in the hijackings: Did at least one hijacker have a gun? Did the flight 93 hijackers have a small bomb, on the scale of the shoe-bomb? Etc.

Based on phone calls from the plane it is clear the passengers fought the hijackers. But it also looks like the outcome was "simplified" for public consumption.
108 posted on 08/07/2003 5:47:48 PM PDT by eno_
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To: Pukka Puck
Hey idiot did you know that the initial news reports (prior to the spin control and hero making) stated that US military planes shot down Flight 93? Did you know that?
109 posted on 08/07/2003 5:48:05 PM PDT by Silas
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To: Focault's Pendulum
We know our heroes....let's not denigrate our own by keeping back some truths that need to be known.

Precisely. We CAN handle the truth.

110 posted on 08/07/2003 5:48:37 PM PDT by eno_
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To: TomB
With a little bit of luck!
111 posted on 08/07/2003 5:48:55 PM PDT by Pukka Puck
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To: Silas
Hey idiot did you know that the initial news reports (prior to the spin control and hero making) stated that US military planes shot down Flight 93? Did you know that?

I live 20 miles from the impact site, and I know people who saw the intact plane go down, nobody saw it shot down.

112 posted on 08/07/2003 5:49:39 PM PDT by TomB
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To: dead
If this story is indeed true it's because the hijackers knew they were gonna get a major ass-kickin'!

Would like to have seen it.

113 posted on 08/07/2003 5:51:06 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: TomB
Nobody saw an air to air missle strike at 30,000 feet in the middle of nowhere? Does that tell us anything?
114 posted on 08/07/2003 5:52:07 PM PDT by Silas
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To: TomB
When I said "they weren't successful" I meant that the passengers were not successful in entering the cockpit.

That plane crashed with an Islamic hijacker at the wheel. It did not crash with a gang of passengers pouring into the cockpit. It did not crash with Wesley Snipes throwing a hijacker out the door. It did not crash as a result of a passenger named MacGyver making a hand grenade out of his airline meal utensils and throwing it in the cockpit.

115 posted on 08/07/2003 5:52:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: dead
The maggot crashed the plane because the passengers were coming to kick his ass. It was still the passenger heroism that caused the mission to fail.

Screw the report, the passengers are still heroes.

116 posted on 08/07/2003 5:52:54 PM PDT by hattend
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To: HitmanNY
"I never belived the american 'lets roll' hero story and I still don't. I think its more likely we shot it down, or the scenario described in this article."

It isn't MORE likely we shot it down. In fact it's almost not likely at all. There isn't a shred of evidence anywhere to bolster your theory. In fact, the evidence ruins your theory. Both F-16's available near Chicago were unarmed and in a practice training.

Secondly, the story we know all fit together perfectly. The plane crashed shortly after Todd hung up, he hd just told the operator they were going to storm the cockpit, and he used a term, "Let's roll!", that fit him to a Tee.

Kind of sad that you have to fabricate a wild story in your attempt to take away the heroic actions of people who are far braver.

117 posted on 08/07/2003 5:53:00 PM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: onyx
This does not diminish the heroism of the passengers.

Damn straight. Let's roll.

118 posted on 08/07/2003 5:54:31 PM PDT by rdb3 (Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
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To: Arkinsaw
Good recap.
119 posted on 08/07/2003 5:55:49 PM PDT by dpa5923 (More than a man, less than a god.)
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To: BigBobber
Who knows what the real story is? Some of the possibilities are:

a) The hijackers had more weapons than just boxcutters. Some might have been placed aboard planes by co-conspirators.

b) The hijackers might have had a small bomb.

c) The plane might have been shot down.

I really don't care if any of these are true, or not. It takes nothing away from the heroism of the passengers that fought the hijackers. But I DO want to know just how bad security was before 9/11.
120 posted on 08/07/2003 5:56:44 PM PDT by eno_
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