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To: nwrep
OK, time for me to get myself in trouble. The Democratic Party has many problems but it does have a more pragmatic view that communism... Democrats understand deep down that if they are going to take from the rich and give to the poor, they have to accept that some will be rich and powerful...

Concerning the military intervention... There is a tendency to take credit for victories and blame others for losses but I think liberals and conservatives act the same in that regard...

Concerning taxation, I think it is the same concept I see when the police target vehicles in speed traps knowing that a person in a nice neighborhood with a nice car are willing to pay (though grudgingly) because of this belief that is ingrained that it is the cost of having a civilized society...

The truth IMHO is that the liberals and conservatives need one another to keep the other from going to far away from reality... Liberals saved us from the fascist attitudes of Nixon and Conservatives saved us from the unrealistic pursuits of Hillary Clinton.... Though I am definitely more conservative than liberal, I think what makes this country work is the adversarial system we have that brings about a moderate way of life...

Communists and Democrats...The thing they have in common is that the ideas are wonderful but in reality...

Conservatives and fascism....
Conservatives give as much information to society and government in the hope that the right decisions will be made and the right policies will be undertaken....Fascists....Everything at gunpoint...no discussion....

50 posted on 08/11/2003 10:08:04 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: dwd1
Liberals saved us from the fascist attitudes of Nixon

Conservatives and fascism.... Conservatives give as much information to society and government in the hope that the right decisions will be made and the right policies will be undertaken....Fascists....Everything at gunpoint...no discussion....

Be very careful here. Fascism is merely another facet of socialism, and has no more to do with conservatism than communism does. Also, you seem not to understand what conservatism is all about, if you think that we conservatives want to give information to "society" and government in the hopes of the best outcome. (I would like to know: how do you give anything to "society"? Who is taking stuff on behalf of "society"? Society is just an amorphous idea; as far as I can tell, it doesn't exist in the way that a, e.g., bank does.) Look at the racial privacy initiative that will be included on the California recall ballot: a conservative initiative designed to prevent certain types of information from being collected by government. Anyway, I suggest doing more reading to learn about conservatism; FR is an excellent resource for this.

52 posted on 08/11/2003 11:51:07 PM PDT by exDemMom (Michael Jackson for Governor!)
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