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1 posted on 08/21/2003 5:14:05 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So, why isn't this guy running for office? He'd get my vote.
2 posted on 08/21/2003 5:19:00 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Klaatu barata nikto.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I hope George Putnam is reading this. He has been screaming about this problem for over thirty years on Southern California radio. Yes George, go ahead and say it "I told you so!!!!"
3 posted on 08/21/2003 5:20:33 AM PDT by Russell Scott (The whole creation groans in pain waiting for the manifestation of Christ's Kingdom)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I take the deterministic view. The problem has already reached critical mass where it is completely self-sustaining ie they have the votes to perpetuate the status quo. If you think it's bad now, just project out another 10 years or so. Arnie is only a stopgap.
4 posted on 08/21/2003 5:33:32 AM PDT by Snerfling
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To: Tailgunner Joe
(COPY AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY. Revise and extend as you see necessary, start a movement, print a petition, start a political party, confront your legislators, write letters, post posters, drop leaflets, demand, demand, demand…)

18 POINT ACTION PLAN: Border Violators

1) Close all US borders to illegal entry forthwith by any and all means possible, including military presence.

2) Maintain legitimate immigration levels at modest annual level with requirements that immigrants be employable or sufficiently wealthy for self-support if they do not intend to work, proficient in basic English and willing to be assimilated into American culture and language. All applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples.

3) Legal immigration shall be awarded to individuals on a lottery basis, wherein all countries are given equal status in the immigration lottery, without regards to color or economic plight of originating nation.

4) Individuals of Islamic faith (muslims) from any country shall be denied immigration privileges or entry into the US. Christians and Jews from muslim countries fleeing religious persecution shall receive preferential and accelerated immigration privileges.

5) Detain all border violators, taking photos, prints and DNA samples of said violator while at the same time, checking for out standing warrants. If no warrants are outstanding, return border violators to home country within 20 days via commercial airline and submit cost of such action, including processing and housing costs for said violator, to country of origin. If costs are not paid within 30 days, reduce any and all aid to said country by a like amount.

6) Should any country from which a border violator originates not currently receive any aid from the US, the Justice Department shall be authorized to seize or secure liens on assets owned, managed or registered to that country to the full extent of the obligation.

7) Establish new Guest Worker Visa (GWV) category, renewable every six (6) months, for unskilled labor positions wherein all applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples. Work permitted of such applicants shall be limited to one of several categories, including childcare, lawn/gardening, restaurant staff, cleaning, and the like. Families of GWV workers are not permitted to enter US, nor will the birth of a child to one of GWV status confer citizenship to either parent or child.

8) Any violation of civil or criminal laws shall result in the forfeiture of the GWV and immediate return to originating country.

9) GWV holders shall be prohibited from claiming unemployment benefits, welfare support or free medical service.

10) The originating country of all GWV holders shall be responsible for any uninsured loss caused by the GWV, including emergency medical claims and/or claims resulting from illegal actions committed while in the US.

11) Companies who hire GWV holders shall submit to the Immigration Dept the name and GWV number of that individual, along with a description of employment tasks. Companies shall be subject to fines and penalty that fail to report employment of GWV workers, or hire border violators. GWV workers shall be paid with check, having income tax withheld. GWV workers shall not be subject to unemployment tax because they are not eligible to receive unemployment compensation.

12) Border violators, or any non-citizen not possessing a valid visa, detained by local police for any reason shall be turned over to border control officials for immediate deportation action, except if they face criminal charges in other jurisdictions.

13) GWV workers shall be prohibited for voting in local, state and federal elections.

14) Border Violators shall NOT be afforded the rights enjoyed by American citizens, as guaranteed under the constitution.

15) Public education (at institutions supported by taxpayer dollars) at any level (pre-school, kindergarten through the university level,) shall NOT be available to Border Violators (or children of Border Violators) and schools that enroll such individuals shall be subject to penalties.

16) Foreign Students (F/S) (individuals admitted to the U.S. for the purpose of attending any educational facility,) private institution or public (i.e. supported by taxpayer dollars,) must have valid student visas, such visas being in force only if the F/S attends school full-time. F/S shall be required to pay tuition, housing and related costs such that all their educational costs are fully reimbursed to the institution attended. The originating country shall pay for any and all loss caused by students while on U.S. soil.

17) Border Violators seeking emergency medical treatment shall provide pictures, fingerprints and DNA samples along with country of origin, and shall be treated then incarcerated until information provided can be verified. Originating country shall bear the costs of medical treatment and confinement.

18) Children born in the U.S. to border violators, illegal aliens or of foreign nationals in the U.S. for any reason (including temporary visitor, school or work visas,) shall not be eligible for citizenship as circumstances of birth, nor shall the parents or parent’s family members (relatives) be conferred U.S. citizenship as a result of such births.

6 posted on 08/21/2003 5:43:36 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Soft spoken, thoughtful, articulate. The liberals are going to EAT HIM ALIVE!!!! I saw it happening yesterday on MSNBC.
14 posted on 08/21/2003 6:42:52 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Outstanding post - thanks for bringing it.
15 posted on 08/21/2003 6:46:47 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He best change his views if he wants to continue to be invited to dinner's at the Vice Presidents house, and asked to give lectures to government entities.

Both parties promote open borders Free Trade to the destruction of American sovereignty while ignoring their duty to protect American citizens from invaders and presenting themselves as a clear and present danger to civilian groups dedicated to "only doing the jobs that the Fed won't do" that ensures us all domestic tranquility and a better life.
16 posted on 08/21/2003 7:34:52 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Tailgunner Joe
bttt
18 posted on 08/21/2003 8:12:50 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for posting.
Here's a timely related article posted here:

States pay $7.4 billion to educate illegals
Washington Times 8/21/03
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/967750/posts

"California spends an estimated $2.2 billion annually — more than any other state — to educate illegal immigrant children. Texas and New York rank second and third, respectively."

And that's just education. Health, welfare, housing, transportation, police, etc.

And the "Spanish speaking only" crews at hotels, construction, fast food, restaurants, janitorial, canneries, mean that English speaking unemployed American citizens, remain unemployed.
The costs are enormous.
22 posted on 08/21/2003 8:27:39 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: AZ GRAMMY
Ping
23 posted on 08/21/2003 8:29:58 AM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Who's heard of John O’Sullivan ?

Not me; this issue has been brought to the fore by popular thinkers and writers such as Victor Davis Hanson, Micheele Malkin, Peter Brimelow (I remember his article in The Atlantic), as well as cantankerous media such as Michael Savage, and innovative citizens like Glenn Spencer.

The Republican Party had better get in front of his issue and quit being afraid of the race-baiting demagogues on the left.

Gray Davis is going down, in part because of his pandering to this issue, with the resultant ballooning budget in California.

All in all, no one has applied the critical thinking and moral analysis like Hanson.

He is a national treasure for the morally based decondtruction he performs on the multi-cultral leftist fantasies that got us into this mess.

31 posted on 08/21/2003 12:05:05 PM PDT by happygrl
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The de facto alliance of the Corporate/Libertarian Right .............


Such as the sniveling little fags in the Cato Institute who propagandize for open borders. My loathing for these smart alecs is bottomless and has been so for years
33 posted on 08/21/2003 12:37:05 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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"its our land anyway", harkens to what will probably become a Kosovo situation. When our glorious immigrants have the numbers they will begin an ethnic cleansing campaign in which low rent thugs threaten and intimidate non-Mexicans on a large scale and the law enforcement officials look the other way or join in on the thuggery. First they will start with poor or working class Americans that live in the country then they will work towards the wealthier soccer mom suburbs. But never worry our GOP stalwarts will at every possible moment remind us that CA and the "Hispanic" vote is still in play.
34 posted on 08/21/2003 1:35:41 PM PDT by junta (Xenophobia a perfectly reasonable response to the feckless stupidity of globalism.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Great article!!!
39 posted on 08/21/2003 6:54:46 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Tailgunner Joe; RonDog; Sabertooth
I used to hear Victor Davis Hanson on Hugh Hewitt's show frequently. I wonder why he wasn't invited on his show to promote this book? Or did I perchance miss it?
40 posted on 08/21/2003 7:10:54 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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I saw Victor Davis Hansen, along with a Black, former WSJ reporter now in San Diego and some representative of FAIR(?) in a panel discussion on CSpan this week.

VDHansen is completely articulate and soft-spoken, yet doesn't pull any punches on the issue.

Someone posted a hot-link here on FR to the CSpan video of the panel. SUPERB !!!

46 posted on 08/22/2003 11:51:10 AM PDT by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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