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RIAA settles with 12-year old girl [$2,000 payment to music cartel]
ZDNet ^ | September 9, 2003 | John Borland

Posted on 09/09/2003 5:26:30 PM PDT by HAL9000

Barely 24 hours after suing alleged file swappers around the United States, the recording industry has settled its first, agreeing to drop its case against a 12-year-old New York girl in exchange for US$2,000.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) filed 261 lawsuits Monday against computer users it said were exclusively "egregious" file swappers. One of the targets wound up being Brianna Lahara, who was identified by the New York Post as a 12-year-old honours student who lives in a New York City Housing Authority apartment.

The trade group said Tuesday that it had agreed to settle with the preteen's mother for a sum considerably lower than previous settlement arrangements.

"We understand now that file sharing the music was illegal," Sylvia Torres, Brianna's mother, said in a statement. "You can be sure Brianna won't be doing it anymore."

The quick settlement points both to the public relations dangers of the RIAA's shotgun lawsuit approach and to its simultaneous effectiveness. Other sympathetic defendants are likely to emerge, but the group is setting a fast precedent of pushing people toward settlement.

"We're trying to send a strong message that you are not anonymous when you participate in peer-to-peer file sharing and that the illegal distribution of copyrighted music has consequences," RIAA chief executive Mitch Bainwol said in a statement. "And as this case illustrates, parents need to be aware of what their children are doing on their computers."

The RIAA had previously settled with four college students sued in April for between US$12,000 and US$17,000. The group said Monday that it had already reached agreements with some of the latest round of defendants to settle for about US$3,000, but that future agreements would likely carry a higher price tag.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: briannalahara; riaa; sharethelove
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To: Rome2000
These same leftist companies that the RIAA represents screw artists out of money, sign horrible acts, contribute to Democrats

Talk about a blatant rationalization (not to mention a non sequitur).

So, because these labels contribute to Democrats (and Republicans, but nevermind that) it's OK to infringe their copyrights. Oh, OK. Whatever.

161 posted on 09/10/2003 5:10:27 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: dwollmann
And there is no theft in copyright violation.

Don't look now, but your ignorance is showing. The U.S. Constitution recognizes intellectual property rights and so does the federal law (USC 17 chapter 1).

I'm sorry but your idealistic opinion does not supercede those.

162 posted on 09/10/2003 5:20:39 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: HAL9000
How much of this $2000 is going the artists?
163 posted on 09/10/2003 5:27:39 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: Ajnin
Why is it permissable to copy a song from the radio onto a cassette tape but not permissable to download music from the internet? If they are going to go after people downloading from the internet should they not also go after those that have recorded music on a cassette?

Actually both are stealing. The law would be that if you take a copy of your casssette but DO NOT USE it, it's ok. If your original copy gets damaged and you start to use the backup, it's ok. If you do use the copy while the original is in good nick then it's wrong. However, to enfore this is impossible. For internet downloading, it is possible to regulate, however difficult is CAN be regualted. That's the reason why they are going after the net downloaders.
164 posted on 09/10/2003 5:35:46 AM PDT by Cronos ('slam and sanity don't mix, ask your Imam.....)
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To: Indrid Cold
I sell used CDs for $3.00

Then you're breaking the law. Even moreso than P@P file-sharers, in fact, since you are actually making a profit on the physical product created and distributed by the record company, rather than an abstract form of the data within the product.

You're not alone, of course: there are thousands of used CD stores in the US, and every one of them is reselling a copyrighted product without the express consent of the copyright owner. Yet the RIAA isn't filing mass lawsuits against the owners of your local Second Spin.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think the RIAA was suing schoolkids and grandparents because it's easier than making a valid case, both legally and in the court of public opinion, subject to counterpoints and scrutiny. Much easier to scare a kid's mother into paying $2000 than going to court against a legitimate business and proving that the CD would have brought them $2000 had it not been resold.

165 posted on 09/10/2003 5:49:13 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: El Conservador
Either you're on the wrong side of the issue, or you need to change your tagline. You could just as easily say "CD prices are too high, and the RIAA is ripping us off!", to which I would reply "Then don't buy CDs!". Your position and tagline are inconsistent.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

166 posted on 09/10/2003 5:56:08 AM PDT by wku man (Buccaneers 17, Eagles 0!!!! What do you have to say now, Stallone and Madden?)
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To: tdadams
Not sure why so-called conservatives don't get it...

'Thou shalt not steal'. The Bible says nothing about it being OK if the price is too high or the content is crappy or record companys make too much money. Seems simple to me.
167 posted on 09/10/2003 6:06:21 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: Windcatcher
Also check out cdbaby.com
168 posted on 09/10/2003 6:06:26 AM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
A boycott would drive them out of business as effectively as stealing their music online would, and no crime would be committed.

By corrupting our government they have no right to make a profit again. By messing with our government they have effectively become no better than the chicoms who supported Clinton. I am about as concerned with their future as I am the chicoms'.

169 posted on 09/10/2003 6:08:27 AM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: CodeMonkey
"you are not depriving them of anything other than money they might have made in a past era when you couldn't copy the song at your own expense."

Past era?? Gimme a break! According to your logic, because something can be electronically copied, it can't be a protected copyright.

They sell physical CDs and someone had to illegally copy that CD and pass it around as electronic bits and bytes.

I hope you never write a book, because I have a copy machine and will distribute it to my friends. I'll scan it into the internet, and because I can, you lose. No one will buy your stupid book because I'll give it to them for free. Besides, you're just a greedy author and deserve to get screwed, right?
170 posted on 09/10/2003 6:10:25 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: tdadams
And before you ask, yes, I do work in the music business.

So then people like you are the reason why people like me, and every other American who writes code in any way for anyone in America may soon have to take our marching orders from the federal government? Confused? Look up your industry cartel's biggest bribe legislation of late: the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act. It was only defeated in committee for a little while. Hollings never abandoned it.

I pray that for the future of America, the music industry if it doesn't change gets tossed on the economic dustheap of history as soon as possible. Our economy and legal system doesn't need and probably can't take anymore of these bribe-laws.

171 posted on 09/10/2003 6:12:52 AM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: HAL9000
Sure, the amount is excessive, but a fine is not.
172 posted on 09/10/2003 6:12:55 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: truenospinzone
I suspect the difference is that I'm not making multiple copies of my discs--I have one and only one disc from this artist, and when I sell it I lose the use of it. On a totally different tack, I'm surprised no one's mentioned this angle:

RIAA is essentially a trust, the same as the steel trust or the biscuit trust etc. that existed and were broken up at the turn of the century. They control (through their member parties) the vast majority of music released to the public (at least that above the level of garage bands) and have engaged in price-fixing and collusion to keep the price of music artificially high, while forcing artists to submit their work at artificially low prices. We still do have anti-trust laws in this country, and I'm surprised that some enterprising young district attorney hasn't filed criminal charges.

Consider the case of another trust: DeBeer's (the diamond trust). They control the vast majority of new diamonds on the market, and they deliberately conspire to keep the price of diamonds artificially high. The diamond trust is well aware that what they're doing is illegal in the US, so much so that DeBeer's corporate executives are forbidden to as much as change planes in the US, lest they get served with a summons. All their US advertising is farmed out to advertising companies here and handled remotely.

173 posted on 09/10/2003 6:14:59 AM PDT by Indrid Cold
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To: PatrioticAmerican
I hope you never write a book, because I have a copy machine and will distribute it to my friends.

Actually I am playing around with that.

I'll scan it into the internet, and because I can, you lose.

Too late, I've already got parts of it written and once I check them for grammer they'll be going into my blog.

No one will buy your stupid book because I'll give it to them for free.

So the content is bad because it's free? I guess everything at the gutenburg project must suck too then.

Besides, you're just a greedy author and deserve to get screwed, right?

Wah bloody wah. The only ones that deserve to get screwed are the uppity ones who fancy IP to equal to property rights.

174 posted on 09/10/2003 6:16:10 AM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: Vladivostok
I 12 yr old is certainly capable of opening an account on Kazaa.
175 posted on 09/10/2003 6:17:37 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: CodeMonkey
"The only ones that deserve to get screwed are the uppity ones who fancy IP to equal to property rights."

Sooooo that's why copyrights are in our Constitution, because they are "uppity"?

You're on the wrong site, fella. This isn't the Communist Party of America site.

176 posted on 09/10/2003 6:25:00 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: CodeMonkey
Code Monkey = Open Source, right?
177 posted on 09/10/2003 6:25:21 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: CodeMonkey; Bush2000
Code Monkey = Open Source, right?
178 posted on 09/10/2003 6:25:36 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: Timesink
"The RIAA has just guaranteed the amount of filesharing will shoot through the roof, and work on the TRULY anonymous, untracable P2P netowrks will explode. Within six months they won't be able to track a single file trader who isn't a complete moron. "

Yep, I'm certain there are 15yr old boys working on that constantly these days. (seriously) The intelligence of some of the computer geek teens amazes me sometimes. They come up with things that are very creative and then share it freely.
179 posted on 09/10/2003 6:26:41 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: PackerBoy
"Please pardon the expression, but that is a pile of crap. Suppose that you make a movie and I decide to copy it and distribute it in theaters for less than you were charging? Given your thinking, this is not theft at all."

The difference is, you would be profiting from it. No one is profiting from filesharing. The program you share files with is free and the files themselves are free. The only people who might possibly be profiting in a round about way from it are the advertisers on the kazaa screen. (but i have doubts anyone actually clicks those links)
180 posted on 09/10/2003 6:37:48 AM PDT by honeygrl
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