MSNBC- Recall election to be delayed

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[Ragirl]

California Appeals Court - Recall should be blocked!!!

[TheLooseThread]

Well, I don't think I'm "rationalizing."

Till now both Arnold and Tom said they were not going to drop out. Further more, absente ballots have already been coming in so even if one did drop out those votes have already been cast (30% of vote is absente I believe). I just don't see how either of them could get more votes the Bustamonte.

But if the election is put off to March (for bogus reasons, yes) anything can happen.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I try never to judge candidates by the behavior of their supporters.

What I meant is that if there is a delay, McClintock needs to seize the day, and bring voters to him.

If he can't, he has no right to either win, or claim the high ground.

[HoundsTooth_BP]

(TIME TO IMPEACH SOME JUDGES)

It is way past time for the people to take back their government. California is a good place to start.

[TexasNative2000]

My favorite California voting story involves my brother and his wife who live in San Francisco.

When they moved there, they registered to vote by mail. They listed their affiliation as "Republican". They got no response. They applied again - no response. They applied AGAIN - no response. Finally, they applied and registered as "Democrat" - they had their voter cards in one week.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

Yes, you are right on here.

The only hope that this represents for the RATS is the the Bush Boom, now in play in most of the country (other than the socialist west coast), raises all the boats -- and California improves as the economic turnaround unfolds.

That's a desperate play (maybe they're desperate? Har!) California's wracked economy is not likely to enjoy the front end of the boom, particularly when this ruling is more likely to increase the actions that are creating their problems: business failing and leaving the state, with hiring out of the question since there appears now no chance of relief from the disasterous policies.

To the businesspeople of California, the chance of something better in the near future kept them going, now that chance is gone and only Davis' craven policies face them. Hmmm...maybe it's time to go to Salt Lake City now? There is now no hope of change in Worker's Comp or health care requirements, no chance of tax rollbacks, no chance that onerous environmental regulations will be eased, no chance that the immigration situation will do anything but increase geometrically.

What businesspeople now must look at is the possibility of violence in the streets as matters disintegrate and the forces of chaos, like environmental extremists, get the "all-clear" sign.

Nope, this is an explosive back-fire from the court.

And what else on the face of the earth could have brough Arnold and McClintock supporters together on the same side again??

[Publius6961]

And the state has, by their own state law, until 2004 to replace it. Can this be appealed?

You bet.
The 2004 date was said by agreement and consensus of all the parties in the discussion at the time.

The Supreme Court will have to get involved in this one.
What is the overturn rate of the Ninth Circus? 80%?

[HIDEK6]

Of course, if the equipment is updated, then the criticism will be that the digitial divide is hampering all those poor, helpless minorities who can't use modern equipment.

I thought that there was no difference between the mental capacities of "minorities" and those of us evil white guys.

Either they're too stupid to vote or they're not.

Just how stupid do you have to be before they don't let you vote?

Or can any dumbass vote?

[familyofman]

Look at the bright side - at least now this issue seems to have united everyone in the GOP - no more fighting between RINOS and conservatives.

[pogo101]

I'd take it straight to the Supremes and not bother with asking all the 36 (is it?) judges of the Ninth Circuit to confer by telephone

The Circus has 26 active judges; 14 -- a majority of the 26, not merely a majority of those who actually do vote on the issue -- are required to have a matter reheard by an 11-judge en banc panel. The panel would consist of Chief Judge Schroeder, a Carter appointee and liberal (if not as much so as Pregerson or Paez), plus 10 of the other 25 actives selected at random. Of course, 6 of the 11 would be required to reverse. The Circus also has 21 Senior judges ineligible to vote on whether to rehear a matter en banc.

[concerned about politics]

Or can any dumbass vote?

Democrats are always saying the minorities are too dumb to do anything on their own. It's belittling, as well as racist.

[muleskinner]

Closer to 90%

[L,TOWM]

If I were still a drinking man, I'd already be up to fajitas and Tequilla, hold the meat, vegetables, salsa, and tortillas.

This is darn near reaching watermelon and grain alcohol territory...

[goldstategop]

Liberals are racists who think minorities can't get through life without their paternal intervention.

[concerned about politics]

Look at the bright side - at least now this issue seems to have united everyone in the GOP

Sure has. Democrats tried to steal the 2000 election, and they're trying again.
With the majority of Californians wanting Davis out for lieing to them, I'd think the Republican numbers are going to go WAY up - not only in Ca., either. The whole country has been watching this.

[yonif]

wow

[HangFire]

nudge...

[Bernard Marx]

Yes, I am on record that I expected the Ninth Circuit to say yes to the election, to prevent itself from being embarrassed one more time...

Yep. Now I'm really sorry you didn't take my even-money bet last week.

I'm also predicting the SCOTUS won't hear this case but will issue a summary affirmation, delaying the recall until March. It got burned too badly over the Floriduh decision and won't go near that hot stove again, especially since the Rats have made Bush's "stealing" the last election in the SCOTUS a major campaign issue. Already the same charges are being made over the CA recall and you can bet the Court is sniffing the political winds.

The only way I can see the SCOTUS becoming involved is if the appeal comes before a single liberal judge who seizes the opportunity to make trouble for the Bush campaign by allowing the recall to go forward, lending substance to the Rat propaganda. With Clinton stumping for Davis, anything is possible. After all, he appointed many of the wild-eyed liberals on the Ninth Circus and stays in touch with the ACLU's Ramona Ripston who's married to a Ninth Circus judge.

[Sir Gawain]

Time that we admited to ourselves we are no longer a republic, nor even a democracy, but rather a judiciocracy (to coin a term).

Oligarchy is what we have become.

[Congressman Billybob]

The Emergency Rules of the Supreme Court permit any grant of, or refusal of, injunctive relief to be taken all the way up the federal food chain from the trial court. The fact that the Ninth stayed its Order a week to allow for an appeal means that all election officials, candidates and others may continue right now as if the election is still on.

However, that self-granted stay of the Order does NOT affect the right of any aggrieved parties to go either to the whole Ninth Circuit, or to the Supreme Court, or both. In fact, it recognizes and allows for those very possibilities.

John / Billybob

[Political Junkie Too]

I may have missed this in an earlier post, but where is the harm that has occurred? Doesn't there need to be a harm before the courts can rule? Isn't the election supposed to go forward, and then based on results a group can claim harm? This strikes me as a pre-emptive (preventive) action in anticipation of potential harm. It's not supposed to work that way, right?

-PJ